How to beat chicks at the Mind games???

[seand95]

Got a dilema. been hanging with this girl for a while and been taggin her quite a bit. even in the ass, so ive gone far with her. she likes me i can tell, a lot. but she tries to play it off like she could care less sometimes and even goes as far as denying my sex! now i know girls want to make you work for it and this and that which i dont mind doing to an extent. but when i feel like they are trying t manipulate by way of teasing my dick, i get pissed. as im sure anyone else would.

So i know you can handle this in an indirect manner and give them the "i dont give a shit" attitude as well. that works, but it may take a couple days to sick in to their heads. What i want to know is, how do i make my point in a percise manner for quickest results? Basically, im sick of this back and forth shit of waiting for her to call, then waiting to see if we can go out alone or she has to bring some freinds. I know this sounds like shes trying to send me a message of i dont want to get serious, and neither do i, well i guess serious enough to where when i want it, its there. shes girlfreind potential and i need some time to see if i want to go that far.

But what i really want to do is turn this little game around so im in control, because ill be a much better pilot than she. I think its known, chicks cant wear the pants or fly the plane! How do give this chick the indirect message that i wont stand for crap!?

 

[Massive690]

next time she starts playing games with you, you just have to straight up tell her "i don't fuck around with these goddamn mind games you play so cut it out or im gone". of course, she won't believe you at first, and will probably start playing even more games. and thats when you dip out. don't call her, and don't answer everytime she calls you or she will know that she's still in control. just go out to the bar and maybe even look for a different chick. then in about a week and a half of this you will have the upperhand. you gotta make it so she wants you more than you want her, and it has to be believable.
BTW its not my fault if this plan horribly backfires on you

 

[Meat Train]

Massive is right-- fight fire with fire! Play her game and beat her at it. Hell, go after other girls-- find another to date for a while, and let her find out. The confrontation will have this mind-game thing out in the open.
Also, best rethink about the relationship thing. I have a nice word for the key to successful relationships-- keep it close forever: PROPINQUITY. It basically means find someone like yourself with similar goals-- someone who can pull their weight/ finances/ open mind. Hey, if you are in this forum, you will need someone who understands. Anyone else is just a bang.

 

[big louie]

you're not fucking her in the ass hard enough if you are not in control... step it up bud...

 

[seand95]

you're not fucking her in the ass hard enough if you are not in control... step it up bud...

good fucking call! damn, i knew i was too gentle

 

[fidobuster]

good fucking call! damn, i knew i was too gentle

DO NOT call her out on the mind games. She will deny she is playing them. PERIOD. And you will look like a douchebag and look like the one that likes her more. You had the right idea the first time; play it cool. Act like you don't give a shit. Seriously, act like a player, and you'll be in control within two weeks. Isn't two weeks worth a year of pussy and ass banging?

Fidobuster.

 

[Neodavid]

It's not a mind game. Not to them...

Women want emotional intimacy. Men want sex.

If she's not getting emotional intimacy, the sex will be sporadic because that IS nothing to her without that emotional intimacy. She's not happy with just physical.

Men think women are playing a game, but it only appears that way.

But to put it in those terms, Men play the game to get sex, women to get emotionally close.

There are other maturity issue's that come into play, but that's a basic you can count on.

Many Women also get great pleasure from being submissive, and when you are emotionally close, when they know you love them, trust your heart completely, holy schmoly, the things they will do for you...

Attitude is so important to pleasure, man, when my wife and I found out this stuff, it took a great sex life and made it just freaking rediculous.

Okay, don't know how common this is, for instance, but that emotional intimacy will take you cool places. My wife had the hardest orgasm the other day while she was so turned on by... err... well, no one was touching her, but parts of her mouth were touching parts of me that caused a protien release.

Give that girl more of your heart, show her love in a way she knows is sincere, get past the trust barriers, and she will be your love slave.

Got a dilema. been hanging with this girl for a while and been taggin her quite a bit. even in the ass, so ive gone far with her. she likes me i can tell, a lot. but she tries to play it off like she could care less sometimes and even goes as far as denying my sex! now i know girls want to make you work for it and this and that which i dont mind doing to an extent. but when i feel like they are trying t manipulate by way of teasing my dick, i get pissed. as im sure anyone else would.

So i know you can handle this in an indirect manner and give them the "i dont give a shit" attitude as well. that works, but it may take a couple days to sick in to their heads. What i want to know is, how do i make my point in a percise manner for quickest results? Basically, im sick of this back and forth shit of waiting for her to call, then waiting to see if we can go out alone or she has to bring some freinds. I know this sounds like shes trying to send me a message of i dont want to get serious, and neither do i, well i guess serious enough to where when i want it, its there. shes girlfreind potential and i need some time to see if i want to go that far.

But what i really want to do is turn this little game around so im in control, because ill be a much better pilot than she. I think its known, chicks cant wear the pants or fly the plane! How do give this chick the indirect message that i wont stand for crap!?

 

[lazurcalibur]

the secret to women

Okay, I have had enough of you younger guys screwing up your lives in a chase for tang, without the proper tools.

Step one: go to ask men.com and order "the system" from doc love

Step two: go to steelballs.com and order "how to date women under 25 for men over 35" - read it even if you are 19 - it will change your life

Step three: buy John Eagan's book - "How to Pick Up Beautiful Women"
on Amazon or Barnes and Noble

Follow the steelballs priniciples and your life will change - the most important lesson - YOUR INTEREST LEVEL IN A WOMAN HAS NO POSITIVE EFFECT ON THE INTEREST SHE HAS IN YOU!!! DO NOT SHOW A HIGH INTEREST LEVEL IN A WOMAN that YOU ARE INTERESTED IN!

Don't tell women what they want to hear....tell women what they should/need to hear.... in order to accomplish YOUR goals

 

[milesfan]

Tell her your high school girlfriends played these games and that your disappointed in the fact that you thought she would be above that.

Then give her a oh well attitude and don't call. She will change just to not be compared to your ex. Then again she could just flat out not like you and be stringing you along.

 

[Neodavid]

Now THAT is playing mind games.

Guys, we need to be better than that.

You don't change what you do to manipulate others, and there IS NO NEED.

All you have to do is be honestly interested in who they are and what they feel.

If you just go for pussy, you are using another human being. THAT SUCKS. Manipulation and mind games suck. Any guy who uses 'techniques' to pick up women, is a loser in the end.

Look, you have to face facts, younger women have issues, just like younger guys do. You got to go through it with them and learn all about your own feelings and desires.

Geez, and no I'm not on clomid.

This is just the facts of life from an older guys perspective, who has found meaning in relationship. Just so happens you also get a lot of p***y, and better than you can imagine.

Okay, I have had enough of you younger guys screwing up your lives in a chase for tang, without the proper tools.

Step one: go to ask men.com and order "the system" from doc love

Step two: go to steelballs.com and order "how to date women under 25 for men over 35" - read it even if you are 19 - it will change your life

Step three: buy John Eagan's book - "How to Pick Up Beautiful Women"
on Amazon or Barnes and Noble

Follow the steelballs priniciples and your life will change - the most important lesson - YOUR INTEREST LEVEL IN A WOMAN HAS NO POSITIVE EFFECT ON THE INTEREST SHE HAS IN YOU!!! DO NOT SHOW A HIGH INTEREST LEVEL IN A WOMAN that YOU ARE INTERESTED IN!

Don't tell women what they want to hear....tell women what they should/need to hear.... in order to accomplish YOUR goals

 

[thick]

lmfao, that is what i was going to suggest. You need a pecker extension or something to let her know you are there and in charge. she is bored with you and your little buddy

you're not fucking her in the ass hard enough if you are not in control... step it up bud...

 

[maxx]

lmfao, that is what i was going to suggest. You need a pecker extension or something to let her know you are there and in charge. she is bored with you and your little buddy

i think that you professoinal help...pm rambo for advise.he is the meso offical lady killer,and well tranny killer too .

maxx

 

[seand95]

yeah, she came over last night and just wanted to cuddle ok, ok. got to make her happy right, well fuck! i cant help it. when ive got a throbbing hard on stuck in ther back all night but she wont let me put a hand down her pants, what the F!@k!!!. i actually got tired of this nonesense and asked her why she kept denying me.
She said, "i just want to cuddle sometimes, and im still sore from the other night". ok, theres no way i said, you can still be sore. that was saturday night and yeah it was a big session, but that was 5 days ago!

So Neodavid, i see what your saying that she wants to just see the sensitive side of me, the nice guy thing. i can do that, thats why ive been able to get my girlfreinds to be so fixated on me after some time. but im just not sure if i can open up like that to her yet. I cant tell if shes a user or not and i have to consider that I was a big reason she broke up with her boyfreind of 3 years. its been about a month since she did break up with him, but shes made it clear to me that the guy was worthless to her and i did meet him once and my Tooldar was of the charts!
fuck this!! im going to take her out a few more times, be the nice, honest guy i can be to some, and if i dont see any improvement im going to have to take drastic measures and start mac'n some other girls.

 

[Massive690]

wow, you are a fuckin loser is you actually ordered this shit. it isn't that hard to get chicks bro. holy shit you're a dork, lmao

Okay, I have had enough of you younger guys screwing up your lives in a chase for tang, without the proper tools.

Step one: go to ask men.com and order "the system" from doc love

Step two: go to steelballs.com and order "how to date women under 25 for men over 35" - read it even if you are 19 - it will change your life

Step three: buy John Eagan's book - "How to Pick Up Beautiful Women"
on Amazon or Barnes and Noble

Follow the steelballs priniciples and your life will change - the most important lesson - YOUR INTEREST LEVEL IN A WOMAN HAS NO POSITIVE EFFECT ON THE INTEREST SHE HAS IN YOU!!! DO NOT SHOW A HIGH INTEREST LEVEL IN A WOMAN that YOU ARE INTERESTED IN!

Don't tell women what they want to hear....tell women what they should/need to hear.... in order to accomplish YOUR goals

 

[juicedUp1111]

hey

You have got to act like you don't give a shit. Plain and simple they want a challenge and they will use their pussy to get you. Just flirt with other girls and act like you don't care about her.

 

[Massive690]

You have got to act like you don't give a shit. Plain and simple they want a challenge and they will use their pussy to get you. Just flirt with other girls and act like you don't care about her.

dude you cant even "act" like you don't give a shit. you actually have to just not give a shit. this works with more things than just women, it works with life in general. once you stop caring, everything gets better. quit caring about shit. i want you to walk over to your fridge, grab a beer, crack it open, and simply say "fuck it!". now proceed to slam your beer. congratulations, your life is officially changing for the better.

 

[lazurcalibur]

Yes, massive you are correct

wow, you are a fuckin loser is you actually ordered this shit. it isn't that hard to get chicks bro. holy shit you're a dork, lmao

Massive, you are lucky. You understand or were taught this stuff. I had to learn it - at the age of 33. All those things made my life much better. I wish I were you. If I would have known then what a I know now I would have pulled down better. But, thank God, I pull down like no other.

War tagging chicks under 25!

 

[Neodavid]

Ah, yeah, that's hard to tell, someone's motivation.

My experience is most women want security more than anything else. Then they want the emotional intimacy, and THEN, they want sex like a wild animal, but for most women, the other things have to come first before the last one gets really good (not just getting off, but stuff that makes you wonder what freaking planet you were just on).

Your right on, trust has to be from both sides. If you can't trust her, you can't get anywhere. And unfortunately, that takes time, or a very special woman.

Finding girls that just want to f* isn't any fun. It gets you off, but then what, you got to go looking again. I'd rather jerk off, quite honestly.

I feel for you man, but my rule of thumb is, if you don't just go nuts after her, if she doesn't trip your trigger so much you just have to be with her, then just get to know her as a person.

Most guys skip that, but it's like skipping the best workout you could ever have. Getting to know people, especially women, changes you and makes you grow.

AND, you get to find out what YOU want, what YOU like. I'm telling you, it can take years...

My wife, for instance, and I, just recently found out (and she believes this is true of most women) that women LOVE to submit, to totally give themselves to a man. But they have to trust first... otherwise it's playing submission, which is fun, but not the real deal that just rings your bell all the way to the bottom.

It's a fun ride if you can take Massives advice and just stop caring. That's some of the best advice i've ever heard. It's what zen is all about, but they make it hard.

For me, it's slightly different in that I gave my cares to God, put everything in his hands, and whatever happens, I figure it what is supposed to happen. I am trying to let go of every bit of control I have over my life. The more I give up, the better it gets (though scary as hell at times).

But doing it like massive says is pretty close, they both mean you relax and go with the flow.

It really doesn't sound like she's floating your boat. Get to know her, make her a good friend. When I dated, I got a LOT of blow jobs that way. And when women don't think you want sex, they give it to you more, because then they know you want 'them', not just their tits and ass.

But if a girl is young and has issue's, you got to feel it all out and be as patient as you can. I understand how you have to think things through, sort of make a plan, but always be ready to junk it. Playing by ear is the magic thing, I think.

yeah, she came over last night and just wanted to cuddle ok, ok. got to make her happy right, well fuck! i cant help it. when ive got a throbbing hard on stuck in ther back all night but she wont let me put a hand down her pants, what the F!@k!!!. i actually got tired of this nonesense and asked her why she kept denying me.
She said, "i just want to cuddle sometimes, and im still sore from the other night". ok, theres no way i said, you can still be sore. that was saturday night and yeah it was a big session, but that was 5 days ago!

So Neodavid, i see what your saying that she wants to just see the sensitive side of me, the nice guy thing. i can do that, thats why ive been able to get my girlfreinds to be so fixated on me after some time. but im just not sure if i can open up like that to her yet. I cant tell if shes a user or not and i have to consider that I was a big reason she broke up with her boyfreind of 3 years. its been about a month since she did break up with him, but shes made it clear to me that the guy was worthless to her and i did meet him once and my Tooldar was of the charts!
fuck this!! im going to take her out a few more times, be the nice, honest guy i can be to some, and if i dont see any improvement im going to have to take drastic measures and start mac'n some other girls.

 

[ramboj70]

Ah, yeah, that's hard to tell, someone's motivation.

My experience is most women want security more than anything else. Then they want the emotional intimacy, and THEN, they want sex like a wild animal, but for most women, the other things have to come first before the last one gets really good (not just getting off, but stuff that makes you wonder what freaking planet you were just on).

Your right on, trust has to be from both sides. If you can't trust her, you can't get anywhere. And unfortunately, that takes time, or a very special woman.

Finding girls that just want to f* isn't any fun. It gets you off, but then what, you got to go looking again. I'd rather jerk off, quite honestly.

I feel for you man, but my rule of thumb is, if you don't just go nuts after her, if she doesn't trip your trigger so much you just have to be with her, then just get to know her as a person.

Most guys skip that, but it's like skipping the best workout you could ever have. Getting to know people, especially women, changes you and makes you grow.

AND, you get to find out what YOU want, what YOU like. I'm telling you, it can take years...

My wife, for instance, and I, just recently found out (and she believes this is true of most women) that women LOVE to submit, to totally give themselves to a man. But they have to trust first... otherwise it's playing submission, which is fun, but not the real deal that just rings your bell all the way to the bottom.

It's a fun ride if you can take Massives advice and just stop caring. That's some of the best advice i've ever heard. It's what zen is all about, but they make it hard.

For me, it's slightly different in that I gave my cares to God, put everything in his hands, and whatever happens, I figure it what is supposed to happen. I am trying to let go of every bit of control I have over my life. The more I give up, the better it gets (though scary as hell at times).

But doing it like massive says is pretty close, they both mean you relax and go with the flow.

It really doesn't sound like she's floating your boat. Get to know her, make her a good friend. When I dated, I got a LOT of blow jobs that way. And when women don't think you want sex, they give it to you more, because then they know you want 'them', not just their tits and ass.

But if a girl is young and has issue's, you got to feel it all out and be as patient as you can. I understand how you have to think things through, sort of make a plan, but always be ready to junk it. Playing by ear is the magic thing, I think.

tell her that your done playing around, and then pull your shaft out and start jacking off right there in front of her and tell her that her pussy is important but not that important, you will have her for life

 

[Massive690]

tell her that your done playing around, and then pull your shaft out and start jacking off right there in front of her and tell her that her pussy is important but not that important, you will have her for life

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LMFAO HAHAHAHA!!!! i think this is the best advice i have ever heard!!!! do it dude, it'll be cool