How to properly pct for this cycle?

[savemeroidlord]

Blast (12-20 weeks)
500mg test e (250mg test e e3.5d)
Ai based on bloodwork
1mg fin ed
tret 0.1% ed
cialis 10mg ed
tudca 500mg ed
accutane 40mg ed
oral minoxidil 2.5mg ed and 2x topical 5% on hairline ed
i'll add 4iu hgh ed for 3-4 months if i can afford it

Cruise (probably for a few months)
200mg test e every week

hcg 6 weeks before pct
Weeks 6-4: 500-1000 IU 3x/week
Weeks 3-1: 250-500 IU 3x/week
Week 0: Stop hCG & Starting SERM

chat gpt pct
Weeks 1–2:
Nolvadex: 40 mg ed
Enclomiphene: 12.5–25 mg ed
AI (Aromasin): 12.5 mg eod

Weeks 3–6 (or extend to Week 8):
Nolvadex: 20 mg/day
Enclomiphene: 12.5–25 mg/day
AI: 12.5 mg eod or e3d

deepseek pct
Weeks 1-2
Nolvadex 20mg/day
Enclomiphene 25mg/day
Aromasin (AI) 12.5mg every other day

Weeks 3-4
Nolvadex 10mg/day
Enclomiphene 12.5mg/day
Aromasin (AI) 12.5mg every 3 days

Weeks 5-6
Nolvadex 10mg/day
Enclomiphene 12.5mg every other day
Aromasin (AI) 12.5mg twice weekly

Weeks 7-8 (Optional)
Nolvadex 10mg every other day
Enclomiphene 12.5mg every other day
Aromasin (AI) As needed*

i use my knowlegde combined with ai to create those two pct plans, which one do you think is better? if u think all two pct plans are bullshit, please recommend me another plan

 

[bigboy420]

Most people get on because they are curious what effect it's going to have

Most go on becouse they know it builds muscle, for results. But this is not a short term game. This is not the same as trying weed and deciding if you like it. Recommending one cycle and pct is a outdated practise. Steroids are for the long game and need you to commit.

Pct aint healthy and theres a big chance you will worsen your natty testosterone. If you plan on quiting before you start you already know its not for you. But hey... most start with the same mindset of quiting and decide to be on forever later 99%

Reactions to BB or BA, making it impractical for someone to use UGL without homebrewing. Increased immune response to foreign bodies being injected, resulting in severe pain or reduced efficacy.

Doesnt really make sense.

 

[dinfar1337]

Blast (12-20 weeks)
500mg test e (250mg test e e3.5d)
Ai based on bloodwork
1mg fin ed
tret 0.1% ed
cialis 10mg ed
tudca 500mg ed
accutane 40mg ed
oral minoxidil 2.5mg ed and 2x topical 5% on hairline ed
i'll add 4iu hgh ed for 3-4 months if i can afford it

Cruise (probably for a few months)
200mg test e every week

hcg 6 weeks before pct
Weeks 6-4: 500-1000 IU 3x/week
Weeks 3-1: 250-500 IU 3x/week
Week 0: Stop hCG & Starting SERM

chat gpt pct
Weeks 1–2:
Nolvadex: 40 mg ed
Enclomiphene: 12.5–25 mg ed
AI (Aromasin): 12.5 mg eod

Weeks 3–6 (or extend to Week 8):
Nolvadex: 20 mg/day
Enclomiphene: 12.5–25 mg/day
AI: 12.5 mg eod or e3d

deepseek pct
Weeks 1-2
Nolvadex 20mg/day
Enclomiphene 25mg/day
Aromasin (AI) 12.5mg every other day

Weeks 3-4
Nolvadex 10mg/day
Enclomiphene 12.5mg/day
Aromasin (AI) 12.5mg every 3 days

Weeks 5-6
Nolvadex 10mg/day
Enclomiphene 12.5mg every other day
Aromasin (AI) 12.5mg twice weekly

Weeks 7-8 (Optional)
Nolvadex 10mg every other day
Enclomiphene 12.5mg every other day
Aromasin (AI) As needed*

i use my knowlegde combined with ai to create those two pct plans, which one do you think is better? if u think all two pct plans are bullshit, please recommend me another plan

this shit ai pct is way too complicated. people usually wait 2 weeks after last injection to make sure all exogenous testosterone is gone and your testosterone levels are sad.

then people usually run enclo/nolvadex/clomid for 6-8 weeks and get your bloods after to compare with before cycle bloods which you dont have so this is new bloodwork you're gonna get ill recommend it at week 8-10 to get a comfortable baseline
and also drop the ai, you're gonna tank your estrogen and have poor dick, poor energy, poor mood and be sad with low testosterone levels already. The hefty clomid/nolva you're planning to run will save you from man boobs anyways.

As someone who started out with acne on face and back, jumping on cycle got me acne on my shoulders and chest aswell. and made it overall worse. While i was doing my first pct i got acne conglobata(search it up if you don't mind disgusting stuff).

I would advise to just jump on trt since as you can see on the models you'll be having a hefty dip in your hormones and just going on trt will keep them more stable which prevents these disgusting side effects. Keep going with the accutane on trt till you have killed the acne and cycle on again when you have read up on how to do blood tests and understand the different markers.

 

[rxzed]

Most go on becouse they know it builds muscle, for results. But this is not a short term game. This is not the same as trying weed and deciding if you like it. Recommending one cycle and pct is a outdated practise. Steroids are for the long game and need you to commit.

I don't disagree with you, and I've never encouraged anyone to PCT. I'm responding to somebody who's clearly exercising a lot of caution (for the better), and has expressed a desire to PCT. I would rather have someone PCT after his first cycle and decide he would like to commit, and cruise, than discourage it and a few cycles later cause irreparable damage to his HPGA, however unlikely that may be. For clarification, I'm entirely against PCT for long term use, but if someone expresses desire to for his first cycle, I'm not going to object.

Pct aint healthy and theres a big chance you will worsen your natty testosterone. If you plan on quiting before you start you already know its not for you. But hey... most start with the same mindset of quiting and decide to be on forever later 99%
Doesnt really make sense.

What someone plans on doing, and what they actually do, generally differs greatly.

 

[dinfar1337]

YIKES ahahah, dont take anything bro
You are not ready

i think you should self reflect and stop laughing at new members, when you look like this after 2 years on test bigboy https://thinksteroids.com/community/media/snapchat-1854176183-jpg.89750/

 

[savemeroidlord]

this shit ai pct is way too complicated. people usually wait 2 weeks after last injection to make sure all exogenous testosterone is gone and your testosterone levels are sad.
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then people usually run enclo/nolvadex/clomid for 6-8 weeks and get your bloods after to compare with before cycle bloods which you dont have so this is new bloodwork you're gonna get ill recommend it at week 8-10 to get a comfortable baseline
and also drop the ai, you're gonna tank your estrogen and have poor dick, poor energy, poor mood and be sad with low testosterone levels already. The hefty clomid/nolva you're planning to run will save you from man boobs anyways.

As someone who started out with acne on face and back, jumping on cycle got me acne on my shoulders and chest aswell. and made it overall worse. While i was doing my first pct i got acne conglobata(search it up if you don't mind disgusting stuff).

I would advise to just jump on trt since as you can see on the models you'll be having a hefty dip in your hormones and just going on trt will keep them more stable which prevents these disgusting side effects. Keep going with the accutane on trt till you have killed the acne and cycle on again when you have read up on how to do blood tests and understand the different markers.

thanks bro, this is what i need

 

[bigboy420]

but if someone expresses desire to for his first cycle, I'm not going to object.

What someone plans on doing, and what they actually do, generally differs greatly.

But if their plan is flawed from the start they deserve to know it. How the game really works. Steroids are a big decision, thinking they arent is wrong.

It has to be for the long game, unless you are just wasting money, your time and maybe even health.

i think you should self reflect and stop laughing at new members, when you look like this after 2 years on test bigboy https://thinksteroids.com/community/media/snapchat-1854176183-jpg.89750/

Loser

 

[rxzed]

But if their plan is flawed from the start they deserve to know it. How the game really works. Steroids are a big decision, thinking they arent is wrong.

PCTing after a first cycle is not a "flawed" plan, and there's no evidence to support that. Steroids are a big decision, which would make it even more logical to not go all in immediately.

It has to be for the long game, unless you are just wasting money, your time and maybe even health.

This is completely backwards. Steroids should be getting to your goal physique as quick and safely as possible, and then maintaining with the lowest dose practical. The longer the exposure, the more damage that will be accumulated, and it increases exponentially with age.

 

[dinfar1337]

thanks bro, this is what i need

ofc you already have the perfect pct. enclo and clomid will spike your lh + fsh hormones kickstarting your own natural production, nolva helps prevent estrogen sides so we dont need the ai. and hcg have preserved your balls so pct should be a piece of cake

 

[dinfar1337]

Most go on becouse they know it builds muscle, for results. But this is not a short term game. This is not the same as trying weed and deciding if you like it. Recommending one cycle and pct is a outdated practise. Steroids are for the long game and need you to commit.

Pct aint healthy and theres a big chance you will worsen your natty testosterone. If you plan on quiting before you start you already know its not for you. But hey... most start with the same mindset of quiting and decide to be on forever later 99%
Doesnt really make sense.

you have no useful input, being on a cycle just once can have lifetime lasting benefits, and pct can be healthy if u tiltrate the dosages down and dont crash your hormones.

the test levels should be of least concern, as in most studies, only 3.3% of men out of 880 were below the normal ref range. and most people likely recover back close to baseline and will go back to baseline at some point in studies from month 9 - ETA with no significant difference.

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its actually interesting to think about theres alot of naturals in the natural bb world that has done loads of stuff to come off and compete there, and theres alot of controversy about it and how they get away it. indeed everyone can have different goals.

If savemeroidlord actually jumps off test after this pct instead of staying on trt he would have done himself a favor if he didnt like the taste of being on test.

You should pct from new members questions, your steriod abuse have induced neurotoxicity beyond repair.

 

[bigboy420]

Yea good luck dudes. Im out.