How to raise A1C quickly !?

[y777]

Hi guys

Technically I’ve got an old T2D diagnosis , which qualifies me for the GLP-1 prescriptions.

I’ve been taking insulin (Lantus and rapid acting ) plus metformin for some time.

Went to a new pcp and said I wanna switch to a GLP-1 from Metformin because I have “side effects” w metformin.

Dude is now saying that because my a1c is under control I am not indicated for a GLP-1 prescription (for which insurance would pay for ) and he wants me to quit metformin and just come in a month and do a1c blood test.

But I’m still taking insulin.

Moron. Insurance and medical establishment view SWITCHING Treatments because of sides as totally different than switching because treatments don’t work. But it was like I’m talking to a rock.

So, realistically , can I just quit everything , insulin included and just spike this a1c? I know it’s supposed to be a 3month average of your bloods but it’s weighted towards the latter period ?

I do take 4 IUs of growth daily , maybe I should bump this to six , and spread it out thru the day ?

My a1c is at 5.0 now , but that was while on 1000 extended release metformin plus 30 Lantus and 50-70 IUs of rapid insulin thru the day. At the time of the test I was only running 150 mg test (brought it down to TRT level cuz I was doing test bloods also ) plus 500 of primo. I’ve since added 500 of tren and 500 of mast p also. Not sure if tren will help keep a1c high or lower it , without insulin?

I think I’d need to let this a1c float back up to 6.5, again not sure if this can happen in a month or but maybe it’s possible with pulling out all insulin , upping growth and eating high carbs (which I’ve been doing as it helps w the tren cycle )


Thanks for any advice and opinions.


ps. I’ve used tirz before to drop a bunch of weight but it was Chinese tirz and not pharma. Now that I’m maintenance and bulk I just wanna replace metformin with tirz or sema

 

[Sector]

why are you taking metformin with insulin though? and then long acting + short acting slin? are you just winging it with random protocols?

 

[buzzingonaas]

why are you taking metformin with insulin though? and then long acting + short acting slin? are you just winging it with random protocols?

Know the question wasn’t directed at me but since I do the same, and without knowing OP’s reasoning for his own protocol, but personally I take berberine daily even on high days with lantus and humalog used. Berberine for increasing my cells’ sensitivity to the insulin coming in either endogenously or exogenously (on my high days), lantus on my high days to serve as a base to cover me through the day during those times where there is not much of an overlap in humalog dosing, and then humalog 3x to try and cover as much as possible without overlapping

 

[Sector]

Know the question wasn’t directed at me but since I do the same, and without knowing OP’s reasoning for his own protocol, but personally I take berberine daily even on high days with lantus and humalog used. Berberine for increasing my cells’ sensitivity to the insulin coming in either endogenously or exogenously (on my high days), lantus on my high days to serve as a base to cover me through the day during those times where there is not much of an overlap in humalog dosing, and then humalog 3x to try and cover as much as possible without overlapping

The insulin sensitivity factor makes a lot of sense. I figured it was probably for this reason, just seems like it would make it trickier to balance blood glucose if you have multiple things lowering it.

Do you keep your fat intake pretty low since insulin is in the system frequently?

I'm really tempted to pull the trigger on some humalog, but I think I might wait just a tad longer on the slin for now.

 

[buzzingonaas]

The insulin sensitivity factor makes a lot of sense. I figured it was probably for this reason, just seems like it would make it trickier to balance blood glucose if you have multiple things lowering it.

Do you keep your fat intake pretty low since insulin is in the system frequently?

I'm really tempted to pull the trigger on some humalog, but I think I might wait just a tad longer on the slin for now.

It would definitely make things trickier I’d imagine if things weren’t dialed in and diet remained the same, yeah on high days my added fats are 0 for meals 1-5 and protein sources only chicken, turkey breast, and cod. Then meal 6 is a cheat meal and only lantus is in my system at that point since humalog is during meal 1, 3(pre workout), and 4 (post workout)

 

[Laxman3221]

My a1c is at 5.0 now , but that was while on 1000 extended release metformin plus 30 Lantus and 50-70 IUs of rapid insulin thru the day. At the time of the test I was only running 150 mg test (brought it down to TRT level cuz I was doing test bloods also ) plus 500 of primo. I’ve since added 500 of tren and 500 of mast p also. Not sure if tren will help keep a1c high or lower it , without insulin?

I think I’d need to let this a1c float back up to 6.5, again not sure if this can happen in a month or but maybe it’s possible with pulling out all insulin , upping growth and eating high carbs (which I’ve been doing as it helps w the tren cycle )

This is how you go into DKA. Give it a try, what's the worse thing that could happen, besides ending up in the ICU?


You may want to get your c-peptide checked to see if you are still making insulin.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Know the question wasn’t directed at me but since I do the same, and without knowing OP’s reasoning for his own protocol, but personally I take berberine daily even on high days with lantus and humalog used. Berberine for increasing my cells’ sensitivity to the insulin coming in either endogenously or exogenously (on my high days), lantus on my high days to serve as a base to cover me through the day during those times where there is not much of an overlap in humalog dosing, and then humalog 3x to try and cover as much as possible without overlapping

The insulin sensitivity factor makes a lot of sense. I figured it was probably for this reason, just seems like it would make it trickier to balance blood glucose if you have multiple things lowering it.

Do you keep your fat intake pretty low since insulin is in the system frequently?

I'm really tempted to pull the trigger on some humalog, but I think I might wait just a tad longer on the slin for now.

I take berberine & empagliflozin to manage potential blood glucose issues with GH. I take rapid-acting insulin with a pre-workout meal for nutrient partitioning.

A lot of moving parts. May or may not make complete sense, but seems to be working or at least not cancelling anything out.

Body comp & health parameters are good rn so I'm content with this protocol.

 

[HUGE McBIGLARGE]

It’s like being 125/60 blood pressure but I want to get off Telmisartan and onto something else. And the doc is telling me my BP is normal and no BP medicine and if I don’t want Telmisartan I can just eff off and stop taking it and come back to the office when BP is 150+ That’s highly irresponsible.

lol I had that experience. BP was 145 systolic. Started taking losartan and doxazosin. I go to my GP, tell them what my BP was and what drugs I’m taking. Dude got mad at me and said I’m not a doctor so I don’t know what I’m doing and shouldn’t be self medicating. This is the same dude who had to google what losartan was.

Dude then tells me to quit the BP drugs, and asks me to record my BP after 2 weeks for the next 2 weeks. I do just that, and my systolic goes back up. I go back to him and he outright accuses me of lying as my diastolic didn’t go up. I then put a complaint in, and they then refer me to a cardiologist.

I see the cardiologist, they do ambulatory blood pressure monitoring. I ask before if he wants me to quit my AHTs and he says no. They do the ambulatory readings, average was something like 125 systolic. The letter he sends me basically reads “idk why you think you have hypertension. It looks fine to me”

And I’m like “I told you 5 times I’m taking AHTs. What the fuck did you expect?”

I’ve had no end of trouble with the NHS. They’re so fucking useless. Every “specialist” I’ve seen has had a complaint from me, and every time they eventually admit fault. I could sort the NHS out within 24 hours. Sack all of the staff and employ just me.