Humana life group

[Superman4hire]

Bigben69
If you like look me up on other boards. I give props where props are due. And that's it. You make it seem like this is a conspiracy theory out to get you.

Also please point out the exact verbiage where B makes it seem like a conspiracy theory? How... by discussing precautionary steps? Help me understand that one? B's posts, like some of the other vets here actually state something of value, have merit and background. You posts, don't state much.... well almost, according to you, humana is great.

 

[nattydread]

Maybe you are correct but when someone quotes me and calls me a shrill where is the merit in that?

 

[nattydread]

All I was doing was giving a opinion and I'm called a shill and asked for references.

And you are correct I did join in 2007 and have not posted much at all. I do look up info when I need it. I posted on Humana cuz like I said in other post I thought it mite help out because I have tried him. But if by doing so I have ruffled so many feathers and caused a problem I am sorry. Lesson learned not to give my two cents cause I have low post count.

 

[biggerben69]

Bigben69
I am in no way a fraud or in biz with Humana. He is one of the sources I use. I saw him on this board and thought I would let anyone interested know that he is a solid guy with good product. I use other sources as well and I am in no way being compensated for giving my opinion of Humana.

I apologize if I disrespected. I do make mistakes and assumptions that are incorrect. I know rajjin has been around forever.and has status everywhere. I do have a problem, as do many, about how members are not protected and habitually scammed at ProM.
Rajjin tells me I am completely wrong about what I believe and know to truth about that board. There are plenty who feel the way I do. I believe there are people that will support what rajj says;. It's my view it's has nothing to do with feelings or truth but with keeping with the status quo there and to keep the gravy train rolling along for the same group dishonest people who's main interest is to promote and to influence where and when and how much newer members and members not in the fold come out of their wallets with. IMO its more than clear that the big shots at ProM most definitely DO NOT have the community's best interest in mind.
There Is simply to much money collected on banners and advertising at this point and too many greedy garbage people to slow the momentum of lies and deceit. Rajjin tells me there is a simple solution? It's to not visit the board and use it's sponsors?
This thing many of us love is all about money to him....in my opinion. He's a very smart and well versed person who I believe is protected and connected by the members of the community that started this on line thing.
He has said I'm a good story teller and that I don't know much about things. Relative to himself I believe that could be true. He's certainly smarter than I am and I'm left at a disadvantage by myself on the boards he has influence on.....and he has many. Knows how to mod and admin and runs the gamut.

 

[humana]

I'm in talks with someone to "maybe" get things rolling on here. I'm sorry if I stirred the pot a little bit.

About members being protected...Please remember one thing with any source on any board including ProM. It's not the boards fault if a source scams someone. They are only a billboard for advertising. I've known sources who were around for 10 years all of a sudden up and leave and leave a huge wake behind them. The board can't stop that. It still boils down to, only spend what you can lose without being hurt too bad. How can a board protect its members. The board doesn't know when or how a source is going to up and leave. You can however watch threads...pay attention...if you see a source having difficulties doing what he's suppose to do ie getting orders out the door, a lot of complaints etc....just know that that can be a sign for something to happen in the near future. What should you do at that point? Sit back and watch. Start shopping for another. Right now over there you can go on a few threads and see issues...try it out, sit and watch and see. Or go through old posts and you can see where the trouble starts.
Rajjin is correct in everything he says. He's been around waaaaaay longer than most and he is very respected all over the bodybuilding net board universe. He's also from the same state as me and so I'm biased.

 

[DieYoungStrong]

That was actually well said Humana.

 

[biggerben69]

I'm in talks with someone to "maybe" get things rolling on here. I'm sorry if I stirred the pot a little bit.

About members being protected...Please remember one thing with any source on any board including ProM. It's not the boards fault if a source scams someone. They are only a billboard for advertising. I've known sources who were around for 10 years all of a sudden up and leave and leave a huge wake behind them. The board can't stop that. It still boils down to, only spend what you can lose without being hurt too bad. How can a board protect its members. The board doesn't know when or how a source is going to up and leave. You can however watch threads...pay attention...if you see a source having difficulties doing what he's suppose to do ie getting orders out the door, a lot of complaints etc....just know that that can be a sign for something to happen in the near future. What should you do at that point? Sit back and watch. Start shopping for another. Right now over there you can go on a few threads and see issues...try it out, sit and watch and see. Or go through old posts and you can see where the trouble starts.
Rajjin is correct in everything he says. He's been around waaaaaay longer than most and he is very respected all over the bodybuilding net board universe. He's also from the same state as me and so I'm biased.

I disagree with pretty much everything you tried to school us on in your post. I feel as if you insulted myself and other members that now better and that you flat out lied to the members that are new and here to learn.
Why are you trying to sell the notion that getting ripped off from time to time is generally accepted by members of on line steroid source and review boards? In your "expert" opinion and in your vast amount of experience the best members can hope for after yrs of homework and of studying what to look for in a source is just a lower percentage of being ripped off from transaction to transaction as the years go by.
Fuck that and fuck you as a source for calling and claiming that these good folks here have just as good a chance of getting ripped off by a source that has been active for 10 yrs as they are by the brand spanking new basement set up that just started trying to push their shit with a line up of plants and shills and slick sounding gmail acct.
I say fuck you because you're trying to call your competition and the peopke involved in UGL's(and you and I both know the word "lab" is much more than a stretch...it's completely inaccurate.) are going to eventually rip people off and as a whole are accepted as pieces of shit.
Fuck you because you are attempting, with complete bullshit to come off as an insider and one of those rare 1 in a million top of the line and above reproach sources that has a little swagger and is just cocky enough that he believes himself to be able to have members eating out of his hand and accepting the nonsense he talks and his attempt to come off as more than a basement brewer who is using the same iffy raws that most of his competition is but is taking a shot by spending the extra money to be pushed, praised and pimped by a group or by certain individuals that have proven over time to increase a a labs exposure and bottom line through what vets and respected members call shady and dishonest and some like myself(who will be called an angry nobody who knows nothing) would call bottom feeders and blood suckers...among other things.
When I refer to Vets and respected members I am excluding the self appointed big shots and those given titles and roles to play on the class of boards that are ProfMuscle, OLM, eroids and ology. I will expand on the different types of boards in my next installment.
Believe me when I tell you that you're not as smart or as good as you may think you are or that your team leader mentor or whomever reared you on line.
I also know with a certainty that there isn't anything of value or importance that you can teach me.
One more fuck you for stroking yourself off in our(the members) living room. You're the stereo typical slimy used car salesman or what one might imagine the PR guy for a run of the mill basement 7th grade chemistry set up in shady world on line steroid dealers that would snatch an old ladies purse and claim he was keeping her on her toes and alert at all times because there are even worse dirt bags than he is....he didn't knock her down...he was sneaky and hid in the shadows then approached here and distracted her using tactics he's been taught by and apprenticed under what the garbage people call a success. A person that has been able to evolve over time and rob and steal with impunity.

 

[Stretch]

I'm in talks with someone to "maybe" get things rolling on here. I'm sorry if I stirred the pot a little bit.

About members being protected...Please remember one thing with any source on any board including ProM. It's not the boards fault if a source scams someone. They are only a billboard for advertising. I've known sources who were around for 10 years all of a sudden up and leave and leave a huge wake behind them. The board can't stop that. It still boils down to, only spend what you can lose without being hurt too bad. How can a board protect its members. The board doesn't know when or how a source is going to up and leave. You can however watch threads...pay attention...if you see a source having difficulties doing what he's suppose to do ie getting orders out the door, a lot of complaints etc....just know that that can be a sign for something to happen in the near future. What should you do at that point? Sit back and watch. Start shopping for another. Right now over there you can go on a few threads and see issues...try it out, sit and watch and see. Or go through old posts and you can see where the trouble starts.
Rajjin is correct in everything he says. He's been around waaaaaay longer than most and he is very respected all over the bodybuilding net board universe. He's also from the same state as me and so I'm biased.

This is horseshit. I was scammed once. And it was done by a source who was known to selectively scam. The big, scamming, source boards couldn't operate without the veteran members who respond to questions while turning a blind eye to the scamming.

Also. When Ben makes the accusation that:

The management of PM/OLM/EROIDS doesnt do everything in their power to protect members.

And you respond with:

Well, there ARE some situations where there is nothing the board could do to help members or prevent them from being scammed

You changed the discussion. Of course the management if the SHIT boards can't be blamed for everything. They might not be the guy bashing you over the head...might not even be the guy running your pockets...but they sure as fuck are driving the getaway car.

You came to the wrong place to defend those censor boards. This place is a hodge podge of individuals who loathe "the big three"

 

[DieYoungStrong]

I disagree with pretty much everything you tried to school us on in your post. I feel as if you insulted myself and other members that now better and that you flat out lied to the members that are new and here to learn.
Why are you trying to sell the notion that getting ripped off from time to time is generally accepted by members of on line steroid source and review boards? In your "expert" opinion and in your vast amount of experience the best members can hope for after yrs of homework and of studying what to look for in a source is just a lower percentage of being ripped off from transaction to transaction as the years go by.
Fuck that and fuck you as a source for calling and claiming that these good folks here have just as good a chance of getting ripped off by a source that has been active for 10 yrs as they are by the brand spanking new basement set up that just started trying to push their shit with a line up of plants and shills and slick sounding gmail acct.
I say fuck you because you're trying to call your competition and the peopke involved in UGL's(and you and I both know the word "lab" is much more than a stretch...it's completely inaccurate.) are going to eventually rip people off and as a whole are accepted as pieces of shit.
Fuck you because you are attempting, with complete bullshit to come off as an insider and one of those rare 1 in a million top of the line and above reproach sources that has a little swagger and is just cocky enough that he believes himself to be able to have members eating out of his hand and accepting the nonsense he talks and his attempt to come off as more than a basement brewer who is using the same iffy raws that most of his competition is but is taking a shot by spending the extra money to be pushed, praised and pimped by a group or by certain individuals that have proven over time to increase a a labs exposure and bottom line through what vets and respected members call shady and dishonest and some like myself(who will be called an angry nobody who knows nothing) would call bottom feeders and blood suckers...among other things.
When I refer to Vets and respected members I am excluding the self appointed big shots and those given titles and roles to play on the class of boards that are ProfMuscle, OLM, eroids and ology. I will expand on the different types of boards in my next installment.
Believe me when I tell you that you're not as smart or as good as you may think you are or that your team leader mentor or whomever reared you on line.
I also know with a certainty that there isn't anything of value or importance that you can teach me.
One more fuck you for stroking yourself off in our(the members) living room. You're the stereo typical slimy used car salesman or what one might imagine the PR guy for a run of the mill basement 7th grade chemistry set up in shady world on line steroid dealers that would snatch an old ladies purse and claim he was keeping her on her toes and alert at all times because there are even worse dirt bags than he is....he didn't knock her down...he was sneaky and hid in the shadows then approached here and distracted her using tactics he's been taught by and apprenticed under what the garbage people call a success. A person that has been able to evolve over time and rob and steal with impunity.

Well guess I will put my dunce cap on and sit in the corner [)]. I've been schooled by BB and Stretch. I've been scammed, and it sucks donkey balls, but never by the "big 3" boards because I've never used them. I always just assumed they were scams anyways. I guess the tentacles of the scams run pretty deep. Thankfully, all my sources are private, including some new ones.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

About members being protected...Please remember one thing with any source on any board including ProM. It's not the boards fault if a source scams someone. They are only a billboard for advertising.

That's the problem. As long as PM get paid, they'll let anybody advertise. The Horizon/Pacman scam is a prime example. After Pac ripped of tens of thousands of dollars, PM let him reopen under the Horizon name and he scammed again. Are you going to say the PM admin didn't know it was the same person? Andre might be a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them. He knows exactly who's advertising at PM. They don't care about the members - just sponser ad money.

I've known sources who were around for 10 years all of a sudden up and leave and leave a huge wake behind them. The board can't stop that.

Sure, that's always possible but it's much more likely for established sources to selectively scam for years. They get away with it because the board protects them. Take Alin for example. He gets bashed everywhere EXCEPT PM and it's affiliates. Try to find criticism of Alin on PM - it's not there. Why are there disgruntled Alin customers everywhere but not on PM? Because his huge advertising dollars buy a lot more than ad space, that's why.

It still boils down to, only spend what you can lose without being hurt too bad. How can a board protect its members.

It can protect its members by allowing uncensored commentary like Meso does.
Is this model perfect? Of course not, but it's the next best thing. It's so difficult for a source to make it here, they have to be genuinely interested in the long-term to be willing to go through Meso's brutal vetting process. Thus far, the ones that have done it have proven reliable.

Rajjin is correct in everything he says. He's been around waaaaaay longer than most and he is very respected all over the bodybuilding net board universe. He's also from the same state as me and so I'm biased.

I don't know him so he might be a decent guy but the fact remains that he is respected on scammer boards like PM where you'll get banned for speaking out and that, to me at least, makes him suspect, and by extension, makes any source that uses him as a reference suspect.

Regards
CBS

 

[Kamala]

I'm in talks with someone to "maybe" get things rolling on here. I'm sorry if I stirred the pot a little bit.

About members being protected...Please remember one thing with any source on any board including ProM. It's not the boards fault if a source scams someone. They are only a billboard for advertising. I've known sources who were around for 10 years all of a sudden up and leave and leave a huge wake behind them. The board can't stop that. It still boils down to, only spend what you can lose without being hurt too bad. How can a board protect its members. The board doesn't know when or how a source is going to up and leave. You can however watch threads...pay attention...if you see a source having difficulties doing what he's suppose to do ie getting orders out the door, a lot of complaints etc....just know that that can be a sign for something to happen in the near future. What should you do at that point? Sit back and watch. Start shopping for another. Right now over there you can go on a few threads and see issues...try it out, sit and watch and see. Or go through old posts and you can see where the trouble starts.
Rajjin is correct in everything he says. He's been around waaaaaay longer than most and he is very respected all over the bodybuilding net board universe. He's also from the same state as me and so I'm biased.

This is a bunch of horseshit.

How can you see a source having difficulties when those difficulties are removed & censored by a mod/admin that is getting kickbacks from the source?
I have seen instances where all in a sudden a source suddenly left, but 90% of the time they were protected repeatedly until that happened..... I can't even count how many times a source that pulled a huge scam just changed their name and went back to the same board, and the board knew full well who was behind the lab/source.
ProM is as guilty as anyone for doing this shit, when I see you trying to say otherwise it raises alarms as to what else you'd try to tell me that's bullshit.

 

[cornedbeefhash]

I disagree with pretty much everything you tried to school us on in your post. I feel as if you insulted myself and other members that now better and that you flat out lied to the members that are new and here to learn.
Why are you trying to sell the notion that getting ripped off from time to time is generally accepted by members of on line steroid source and review boards? In your "expert" opinion and in your vast amount of experience the best members can hope for after yrs of homework and of studying what to look for in a source is just a lower percentage of being ripped off from transaction to transaction as the years go by.
Fuck that and fuck you as a source for calling and claiming that these good folks here have just as good a chance of getting ripped off by a source that has been active for 10 yrs as they are by the brand spanking new basement set up that just started trying to push their shit with a line up of plants and shills and slick sounding gmail acct.
I say fuck you because you're trying to call your competition and the peopke involved in UGL's(and you and I both know the word "lab" is much more than a stretch...it's completely inaccurate.) are going to eventually rip people off and as a whole are accepted as pieces of shit.
Fuck you because you are attempting, with complete bullshit to come off as an insider and one of those rare 1 in a million top of the line and above reproach sources that has a little swagger and is just cocky enough that he believes himself to be able to have members eating out of his hand and accepting the nonsense he talks and his attempt to come off as more than a basement brewer who is using the same iffy raws that most of his competition is but is taking a shot by spending the extra money to be pushed, praised and pimped by a group or by certain individuals that have proven over time to increase a a labs exposure and bottom line through what vets and respected members call shady and dishonest and some like myself(who will be called an angry nobody who knows nothing) would call bottom feeders and blood suckers...among other things.
When I refer to Vets and respected members I am excluding the self appointed big shots and those given titles and roles to play on the class of boards that are ProfMuscle, OLM, eroids and ology. I will expand on the different types of boards in my next installment.
Believe me when I tell you that you're not as smart or as good as you may think you are or that your team leader mentor or whomever reared you on line.
I also know with a certainty that there isn't anything of value or importance that you can teach me.
One more fuck you for stroking yourself off in our(the members) living room. You're the stereo typical slimy used car salesman or what one might imagine the PR guy for a run of the mill basement 7th grade chemistry set up in shady world on line steroid dealers that would snatch an old ladies purse and claim he was keeping her on her toes and alert at all times because there are even worse dirt bags than he is....he didn't knock her down...he was sneaky and hid in the shadows then approached here and distracted her using tactics he's been taught by and apprenticed under what the garbage people call a success. A person that has been able to evolve over time and rob and steal with impunity.

Well said. I couldn't agree more. To call this a lab is a stretch. The prices alone show that the gear has to be brewed in a bathroom. How can you sell lab quality test for $17 per 10ml?!?! Why the $150 minimum order? Looking to grab larger amounts of cash by enticing people with low prices? Something seems fishy. I wouldn't shoot this shit if you had a gun to my head.

 

[SomeGuy]

Been running his tren e 400mg/WK and some other test e 150mg/wk for 2 weeks with zero sides. Even ran 5 miles yesterday without any real difficulty. First time with tren so either I am lucky or I am disappointed. Keep waiting for the night sweats or something to show up. FWIW the order process was easy and shipping very quick.

 

[Stretch]

The prices alone show the gear has to be brewed in a bathroom. How can you sell lab quality test for $17 per 10ml?!?! Why the $150 minimum order? Looking to grab larger amounts of cash by enticing people with low prices? Something seems fishy. I wouldn't shoot this shit if you had a gun to my head.

Bro. I know this statement seems to make sense to you.

But think about it, that vial of TEST for a 100% markup over his production costs....meaning he will double his money....the final price after markup would be $3-$5. So it is completely possible for him to sell as cheaply as he is. But why would? I dunno. I agree it seems weird.

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Some guy I'm unfamiliar with this lab but if you are running enanthate esters and are only at 2 weeks, it is still to early to call your gear bad.

 

[SomeGuy]

Thanks I will update if anything changes. Didn't see any reports so I figured I would toss my early one into the ring. Prices are very good (and it is during a sale) and as was stated above the cost to produce gear from raw materials is quite cheap at any kind of scale. My pharmacy charged me less than 1$/gm for the test when they were compounding my cream and that's retail in their eyes.

 

[cornedbeefhash]

Ok guys. I was completely wrong about this source. Prices are good, communication is good, and products seem good. I am shocked by how good this source can be with such low prices. Humana, I'm sorry I doubted you. Keep up the good work. I would highly recommend!

 

[Stretch]

Ok guys. I was completely wrong about this source. Prices are good, communication is good, and products seem good. I am shocked by how good this source can be with such low prices. Humana, I'm sorry I doubted you. Keep up the good work. I would highly recommend!

Did you order something?

 

[JackC4]

Products seem good??

 

[cornedbeefhash]

Did you order something?

I did. I ordered quite a bit. No complaints so far.