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please explain how something as simple as forum history can dictate a persons moral fiber. you seem to have tons of forum history and have actually turned me away from PM because I would not want YOU to have access to my IP, or anyone like you.

I have no forum history, Meso was the first board I joined and I am happy I did. I went to other boards and actually visited the sub-section for a source who sold me junk. Mods and Vets alike pushed this source and the new guys jus smiled and got fucked.

I read the thread and without bias read what you posted, and after doing such it seems like you rely solely on status and seniority, but not so much what you have done to better this community. Oh, and let me not forget the importance of how your board has olympia competitors on it, because they will give me cycle advice and not just tell me to take whatever new flavor of bullshit their sponsors are pushing.

maybe I'll eat my words, but I doubt it.
 
Hambuglar I have done more for this community then you will ever dream
Of doing. You have no idea.

Forum
History is important for many reasons.
Take care guys, I'm out. Carry on with your back stabbing and talking about good guys that will never even read it.
 
rAJJIN said:
The rule I have set on MY forum is simple.
You have to provide 2 years of good forum history.
Something none of you guys In this thread have.
Your last paragraph explains this area. Misfits. Banned members from arou d the community with no rep or forum history.

Fakes hiding behind a "new"
Or anon name disgust me.
They hide or use alias handles for a reason.
Scammer or true vet afraid to use his real name??? Hmmm

Yet I am pathetic! Lol you
Guys are funny.
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I suppose Rajjin is the name on your license plate? I guess that even though you are part of an illegal drug trafficking operation you are not using a proxy?
Lets get this strait, you are shitting on people for doing the exact same things that you are doing?

The difference between you and the people that inhabit your boards and this one is that we don't profit from stealing from our members. It really is that simple.

I mean wtf is this "good board history" that you speak of? Does that mean go over to PM, contribute to the Forum and ignore the guys there that have been scamming for years? You tell me, what distinguishes a good board member from a bad one on a board who's sole purpose is to generate money through AAS trafficking?
Seriously dude, all of this reputation you are so proud of stems from your affiliation with a board owned by one of the most notorious scam artists in the AAS world.

I'm throwing all of this out there as respectfully as I can in the hope that you might actually try to address some of it. This is your chance to set things strait and clear the air, why not take advantage of it?
 
rAJJIN said:
The rule I have set on MY forum is simple.
You have to provide 2 years of good forum history.
Something none of you guys In this thread have.
Your last paragraph explains this area. Misfits. Banned members from arou d the community with no rep or forum history.
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Take a look around, numbnuts! Rather than continuing to run your mouth, take some time to learn about "the people" on Meso. With few exceptions, NOBODY here wants to be a part of your community. Your "community" is dispised here BECAUSE of the type of members you have. Most Meso members tend to be free thinkers. They're not the type to puff up their lips to get ahead. And the noobs here sure aren't like the bag lickers at PM that hang on the vets like pilot fish, nuthugging mods and vets so they won't get banned before they attain vet status and can get free gear, too.

So yeah, many of these guys probably have been banned if they had the misfortune of getting their start at a board like yours. Once they find Meso, they feel at home because they are judged on the quality of their contributions, not who they've bent over for to get "status." I understand why you call them misfits, I really do. Followers are always threatened by free thinkers - to a follower, thinking for yourself is a scary thought.

And if you were totally honest, you would admit that you weren't pissed off about what I said about PM. You were pissed off that I didn't give you the respect YOU BELIEVE you are owed because of your time in the "community." Well. welcome to Meso where status means jack shit. If you want respect here, check the attitude and post something substantive.



Fakes hiding behind a "new"
Or anon name disgust me.
They hide or use alias handles for a reason.
Scammer or true vet afraid to use his real name??? Hmmm

Yet I am pathetic! Lol you
Guys are funny.
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Yeah, it really bothers you, doesn't it? Who could I be and, WHAT do I really know? [:o)]

Maybe I'm an old vet you've had dealings with in the past and now wish to remain anonymous.

Or

Maybe I'm an old scammer you partnered with at one time but I've changed my ways.

Or

Maybe I'm an old mod from a board you used to frequent that grew tired of watching noobs get taken advantage by vets on the take and I left it all behind.

Or

Maybe I'm just a noob with less than a year at Meso.


Feeling panicky yet, rajj? Got a lump in your throat? Should you?[:o)]
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Kamala, what you've just seen is a Promuscle mod being a promuscle mod. To be fair, I have no doubt in my mind that he doesn't see anything wrong with what he suggested. It's an everyday event on censored boards.

Alas, you can take the boy out of the farm but you can't take the farm out of the boy.

CBS
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Brother, I have no doubt that it is just part of his daily tasks at PM.

Rajjin's job is all about keeping things running smoothly, basically he's a bouncer at a club for thieves. Anybody that gets between a source and their dollar is also getting between Raj and his kickback.
 
TheHamburglar said:
please explain how something as simple as forum history can dictate a persons moral fiber. you seem to have tons of forum history and have actually turned me away from PM because I would not want YOU to have access to my IP, or anyone like you.

I have no forum history, Meso was the first board I joined and I am happy I did. I went to other boards and actually visited the sub-section for a source who sold me junk. Mods and Vets alike pushed this source and the new guys jus smiled and got fucked.

I read the thread and without bias read what you posted, and after doing such it seems like you rely solely on status and seniority, but not so much what you have done to better this community. Oh, and let me not forget the importance of how your board has olympia competitors on it, because they will give me cycle advice and not just tell me to take whatever new flavor of bullshit their sponsors are pushing.

maybe I'll eat my words, but I doubt it.
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You caught on a lot quicker than I did.

When I first came around there wasn't many boards like this, everything I learned was by watching it happen and reading between the lines. I haven't even been around for very long, and I have seen some extremely fucked up scams happen...... Things where basically every mod on the board knew, and covered it up to keep it going.... I have seen boards set up who's sole purpose was to lure in noobs, and once enough orders were placed the board and the money disappeared.

Don't trust any of these fuckers, its all about money. They won't lose any sleep by stealing your money, and a lot of them have serious drug habits to boot.
 
So where are the vet members here? Why is it all trash talking 1 or 2 year guys?
Where are the competitors?
Where are the good reputable sources?
Where are the Contest and nutrition Gurus?

All I see so far is a flame fest and a bunch of garbage.

Censored board sucks. I have a pretty good idea who you are.
your an account made by "someone" to stir up some activity here. ;)
I will leave it at that.
 
Another funny FACT. One of your top veteran Mods here Just posted in our sponsor forum 5 minutes ago giving credit to a sponsor there. LMAO
You newbs are funny. Its been fun
 
rAJJIN said:
Another funny FACT. One of your top veteran Mods here Just posted in our sponsor forum 5 minutes ago giving credit to a sponsor there. LMAO
You newbs are funny. Its been fun
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A mod who hasn't posted here in months right? A guy who really is a mod only in title...correct?
 
rAJJIN said:
So where are the vet members here? Why is it all trash talking 1 or 2 year guys?
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There are many longterm members here but just like other forums, the bulk of the membership is made up of newer guys.

Where are the competitors?
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Bear in mind, Meso isn't just about bodybuilding and steroids but there are competitors here. In fact, one member I can think of right now is a champion in several fields. He trained in California with Arnold in the 70's, winning several bodybuilding titles, as well as being a champion car racer and MMA fighter and teacher. He also excelled in academics, holding a Phd. He is a trained research scientist and mensa member. He was also succesful with real estate investments and had sex with several thousand women before writting a book on his pick up technique. He is an expert grappler with a blackbelt in bjj or jjj. In fact, he was ranked 5th in NAMBLA.

Where are the good reputable sources?
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Meso has many sources show up and they get put through the ringer. Most don't make it but those that survive have been gtg. Like PM, only a few reputable sources, though.

Where are the Contest and nutrition Gurus?
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In the nutrition and bodybuilding forums.

All I see so far is a flame fest and a bunch of garbage.
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rajjin, rajjin, rajjin.... what are we going to do about that reading comprehension problem you have? You said you have ADD so the first step - take your Ritalin. Then look around the site.

But. I will GUARANTEE you this: The quality of information available on Meso is so far beyond anything you've seen anywhere else, it's stunning. I sincerly mean that.

Stick around Meso for a while and you'll be shocked by how little you actually know - and how wrong you are about what you think you do know. That's not meant as an insult, it's a fact and all the credit in the world goes to Millard for bringing together a group of experts and giving them this forum to share it.


Censored board sucks. I have a pretty good idea who you are.
your an account made by "someone" to stir up some activity here. ;)
I will leave it at that.
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No, rajin, you have no idea.

CBS
 
Wtf cares how many pros are on a board...I am a real dude asking other real people questions and getting real answers. How many times do guys with pro cards lie to protect their wallets?

I want advice I can trust.
 
rAJJIN said:
Its the main problem with a forum like this. It attracts all the banned members and Guys Not welcome around the community.
Ip checks are done for a reason. And the reason is Not because we are "ratts" you Dumb-ass. Its the opposite. Its to Pin down fakes and frauds.
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Actually, it really hasn't been a problem. I've been pleasantly surprised at how effectively the uncensored forum self-moderates itself by identifying frauds and fakes. The members here are much smarter than you give them credit. They don't need a big brother moderator behind the scenes to track down, delete, ban the frauds/scammers; they are fully capable of publicly and transparently identifying them for all the world to see.

As far as troublemakers are concerned, the only people that the members have caused "trouble" for are sources. Admittedly, this is NOT a source-friendly subforum. It wasn't designed to be. This is not a source forum. The goal is not to hook up people seeking steroids with promising new sources.

Above all, it's intended to protect people from being scammed. If a few good sources are unfairly and undeservedly criticized in the process, that is unfortunate. As far as MESO is concerned, it's much better to have a false positive identification of a bad/scammer source than a false negative.

rAJJIN said:
Guys running multiple handles and names. .
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Food for thought. Here is an unfortunate truth...

ONE of the best ways to preserve one's anonymity on the internet - and that should be one of the top goals of anyone who illegally purchases steroids on the black market - is to use multiple aliases.

Just because this practice is used by scammers, etc. doesn't mean it shouldn't be a tool/strategy that everyone else can use.

Just like the fact that TOR and IP anonymizers are used by thiefs, pedophiles, terrorists, etc. doesn't mean it should be off-limits to anyone else who believes in anonymity and free speech.

One of the worst practices I've seen in the bodybuilding community is the use of the same handle for both daily discussion and the purchase of steroids from online sources.

There are members who have used the same handle for 3, 4, 5 or even 10 years; they've accumulated thousands or posts and lots of status. Of course, there's nothing wrong with that. But if they've also made dozens, if not hundreds, of illegal purchases of AAS online using that handle... well, that's another story.

Talk about an extensive digital trail. It's amazing how much can be learned about a person's identity and location from the information they voluntarily disclose. People should know that kind of history is a gold mine for law enforcement investigators.

What's the solution?

Oh, yeah, it's multiple handles/aliases. But that's apparently taboo in the community. Perhaps we should move out of the past and adapt.
 
People who order steroids and abuse steroids are not the smartest ones. No offense to anyone. Among those are exceptions like Arnold for instance. But in general bodybuilders talk about ordering steroids, using steroids and they pay for steroids using their bank accounts and credit cards. Steroids sources are even worse. For instance NAPS ask you to pay by bank wire (read this https://thinksteroids.com/community/posts/913754).
Steroids sources accept paypal! Z got busted he is back and idiots still order from him.

Bodybuilding community is dying.
 
rAJJIN said:
So where are the vet members here? Why is it all trash talking 1 or 2 year guys?
Where are the competitors?
Where are the good reputable sources?
Where are the Contest and nutrition Gurus?

All I see so far is a flame fest and a bunch of garbage.
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A "bunch of garbage", huh?

Those are the wrong questions. The better question is where can some of the most credible and highest-quality information about the practical use of anabolic steroids be found?

There is value in "status" and posting history. But the value doesn't lie as a tool for ad hominem dismissal of someone's arguments.

Perhaps posting history isn't given the same importance at MESO as it is at other forums. Instead, MESO places more emphasis on the quality of the information, member knowledge and the willingness to share and help others. It tends to be more egalitarian. Credibility is earned based on the quality of the contributions. A member with 100 posts and one year could have greater standing than a member with 1,000 posts and 5 years.

We don't tend to use the number of trophies, whether it's from bodybuilding competitions, academic institutions, or professional affiliations, as the final determinant of someone's AAS knowledge. It's multi-factorial.

I would hate to think someone would judge my knowledge of AAS based on what I may or may not look like. Should the fact that I've never competed and have no aspirations of competing in a bodybuilding competition be used to dismiss the credibility of my posts and/or other contributions to the steroid-using/bodybuilding community?

Evidence-based knowledge is numero uno here. Being a pro bodybuilder or a national-level competitor isn't a necessarily an accurate indicator of their AAS knowledge. By no means are AAS knowledge and bodybuilding success mutually exclusive. I expect that successful competitors are disproportionately more knowledgeable in this area than non-competitors. But people shouldn't blindly follow someone's advice based on the belief that "they look like they know what they're talking about."

Having said that, the AAS knowledge base is incredibly indebted to competitors. Much of what we know is informed by what they do and the experiments they conduct in the pursuit of increase muscle size, etc. Any forum that provides a community a concentration of such individuals is invaluable in our pursuit of increased AAS/PED knowledge!
 
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