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So first cycle with gear received about a week ago. Yet now you state you pinned 4 other times and no issues? So you've pinned 5 times IM in a week...something isn't adding up.

But your shoulder is probably virgin pin being first time.
I have been on test cyp for a month now. My boss was spotted me my first 3 weeks (which was just 1ml 300mg once a week). Until I got my own which was 2 separate orders. One was dragon pharma and the other hutech labs. They came on the exact same day. My cousin is about to be here and I'll take a pic of his shoulder. He is going to pin again in his glute. Im just going to stick with dragon and just see how it affects him this second go round.
 
So first cycle with gear received about a week ago. Yet now you state you pinned 4 other times and no issues? So you've pinned 5 times IM in a week...something isn't adding up.

But your shoulder is probably virgin pin being first time.
The first one is the swollen one. It's really hard to the touch as well
 

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The first one is the swollen one. It's really hard to the touch as well
I've had that same reaction, a few times actually. Could be just a bad pin for him, reaction to the carrier, possible subq leak. I'd have him monitor it to see if it subsidies any at all, or gets worse.
 
I got some of stannys cyp/dhb combo vials from a while back. Been reading horror stories about DHB pip. Anyone run stans CYP/DHB that can comment?

5/8 length and 31 guage
No offense but you really need some guidance on pinning. Draw it with like a 18 and then push it with smaller needle (I use 23). Even pushing a needle through the rubber is going to slightly dull it. 31 is too small IMO.
 
The first one is the swollen one. It's really hard to the touch as well
if it's pip (hormones crystalized in muscle) what you can try to do is get a arm towel and massage it so the crystal would melt and absorb in to the muscle. I've seen others doing it that way especially with high MG stuff. Perhaps this is ur first time that's why you're not used to it .
 
Placed an order with this new supplier, new account here. But not new to the forum. Not
My typical supplier, however willing to try out something new.

Order placed the 9th
USPS awaiting item on the 11th still
Will keep updated.
 
Placed an order with this new supplier, new account here. But not new to the forum. Not
My typical supplier, however willing to try out something new.

Order placed the 9th
USPS awaiting item on the 11th still
Will keep updated.
Please message me your order number. I'll check it with our shipper. thank you
 
Please message me your order number. I'll check it with our shipper. thank you
Placed an order with this new supplier, new account here. But not new to the forum. Not
My typical supplier, however willing to try out something new.

Order placed the 9th
USPS awaiting item on the 11th still
Will keep updated.

hutech emailed me directly and ensured proper follow-up, tracking finally pushed through. Should expect product sometime this weekend. So far, great service!!
 
Ordered from Hutech, figured I’d give it a try after following this thread. Was disappointed like many others have said already with the packaging. My orals were broken and my test was cracked. After contacting them about my order they did issue a replacement. I’ve been Natty for the last 10 yrs. Age and a horrible diet has seemed to caught up with me. So I’ve done a couple months of research and joined a few groups. I decided to order test E 250 as my base. My goal was to burn fat and drop weight, with this in mind I also ordered Winnie and Anavar. (25mg/day each) I’m currently 6’0 227. After my 1st week on gear I now weigh 235. My diet and workout routine has not changed. The only thing that has changed is the gear. My question for you guys is for somebody who is new with this combination is it normal to put on weight so fast? Because my hope is eventually my weight will decrease. I understand muscle is heavier than fat, but I don’t feel like I have put on 7 pounds of muscle.
 
Ordered from Hutech, figured I’d give it a try after following this thread. Was disappointed like many others have said already with the packaging. My orals were broken and my test was cracked. After contacting them about my order they did issue a replacement. I’ve been Natty for the last 10 yrs. Age and a horrible diet has seemed to caught up with me. So I’ve done a couple months of research and joined a few groups. I decided to order test E 250 as my base. My goal was to burn fat and drop weight, with this in mind I also ordered Winnie and Anavar. (25mg/day each) I’m currently 6’0 227. After my 1st week on gear I now weigh 235. My diet and workout routine has not changed. The only thing that has changed is the gear. My question for you guys is for somebody who is new with this combination is it normal to put on weight so fast? Because my hope is eventually my weight will decrease. I understand muscle is heavier than fat, but I don’t feel like I have put on 7 pounds of muscle.
Depends your actual caloric intake/maintenance. If you’re in a deficit you should see muscle retention/building as well as some fat reduction. The scale may not change a whole lot. However I know when I run my test it increases my appetite and I eat everything in sight, sometimes it takes restraint to not eat my dining table. Normally it takes 3-5 weeks (very dependent upon the individual, myself is 5 weeks) Test E to fully saturate and to reap the “feel” and full benefits of your gear. Personally I run a moderately low dose in comparison to some. I tend to stick to 300mg for around 16 weeks. It’s a lot of changing your diet/habits/supplementation based on how you react as time goes on.
 
Ordered from Hutech, figured I’d give it a try after following this thread. Was disappointed like many others have said already with the packaging. My orals were broken and my test was cracked. After contacting them about my order they did issue a replacement. I’ve been Natty for the last 10 yrs. Age and a horrible diet has seemed to caught up with me. So I’ve done a couple months of research and joined a few groups. I decided to order test E 250 as my base. My goal was to burn fat and drop weight, with this in mind I also ordered Winnie and Anavar. (25mg/day each) I’m currently 6’0 227. After my 1st week on gear I now weigh 235. My diet and workout routine has not changed. The only thing that has changed is the gear. My question for you guys is for somebody who is new with this combination is it normal to put on weight so fast? Because my hope is eventually my weight will decrease. I understand muscle is heavier than fat, but I don’t feel like I have put on 7 pounds of muscle.
I apologize for the packaging. Perhaps ill switch to a box instead of those bags cuz even with bubble wrap it seems to not do the trick. Any how, the weight gain you are experiencing is mostly water weight. Your muscle is holding more water since you're training on anabolic. If you want to shred, you need to go on a caloric deficit. But since you're on anabolic, you will be able to shred easier and also maintain most of your muscle.

you use stuff like myfitnesspal? I suggest you track your calorie a day. and say you're 227 right now and say your target weight is 200. You got 27 pounds to go. 3500 calorie is to a pound. So you got 94500 calories to cut. Say you are on a deficit of 500 a a day. It'll take you 189 days to get to 200. I mean of course the higher your deficit the faster you'll get to your goal. Being on anabolic will help you stay more energetic while you're cutting (most people feel lethargic on a cut) also you will be able to maintain or gain muscle on the cut. None the less the only thing that 'll help you cut down is a calorie deficit.
 
Thanks for your reply
Depends your actual caloric intake/maintenance. If you’re in a deficit you should see muscle retention/building as well as some fat reduction. The scale may not change a whole lot. However I know when I run my test it increases my appetite and I eat everything in sight, sometimes it takes restraint to not eat my dining table. Normally it takes 3-5 weeks (very dependent upon the individual, myself is 5 weeks) Test E to fully saturate and to reap the “feel” and full benefits of your gear. Personally I run a moderately low dose in comparison to some. I tend to stick to 300mg for around 16 weeks. It’s a lot of changing your diet/habits/supplementation based on how you react as time goes on.
Thanks for replying. I have noticed I’m hungry all the time but I’ve kept it under control. Isn’t 16 weeks too long for a cycle? I was told to be on cycle between 6-8 weeks.
 
I apologize for the packaging. Perhaps ill switch to a box instead of those bags cuz even with bubble wrap it seems to not do the trick. Any how, the weight gain you are experiencing is mostly water weight. Your muscle is holding more water since you're training on anabolic. If you want to shred, you need to go on a caloric deficit. But since you're on anabolic, you will be able to shred easier and also maintain most of your muscle.

you use stuff like myfitnesspal? I suggest you track your calorie a day. and say you're 227 right now and say your target weight is 200. You got 27 pounds to go. 3500 calorie is to a pound. So you got 94500 calories to cut. Say you are on a deficit of 500 a a day. It'll take you 189 days to get to 200. I mean of course the higher your deficit the faster you'll get to your goal. Being on anabolic will help you stay more energetic while you're cutting (most people feel lethargic on a cut) also you will be able to maintain or gain muscle on the cut. None the less the only thing that 'll help you cut down is a calorie deficit.
Thank you. Yes I’m tracking my calories. I’ve been able to consistently lose 1.5 lbs per week in the past without gear. For whatever reason my body has stopped cooperating that’s why I chose to try this. My target weight is 190.
 
Thank you. Yes I’m tracking my calories. I’ve been able to consistently lose 1.5 lbs per week in the past without gear. For whatever reason my body has stopped cooperating that’s why I chose to try this. My target weight is 190.
you just need to be persistent.. sometimes it doesn't show immediately. You introduced gears so your muscle is taking up more water (when they grow they store water) and that's where all the weight is coming from. Wait a bit and the water weight should subside.
 
Thanks for your reply

Thanks for replying. I have noticed I’m hungry all the time but I’ve kept it under control. Isn’t 16 weeks too long for a cycle? I was told to be on cycle between 6-8 weeks.
usually 12 weeks cycle is what I do. Yes, you're hungry, cuz you're muscle's growing. Doesn't that bring back memories when you were 18 and growing :) and your test is pumpin...
 
Thanks for your reply

Thanks for replying. I have noticed I’m hungry all the time but I’ve kept it under control. Isn’t 16 weeks too long for a cycle? I was told to be on cycle between 6-8 weeks.
Many many people do 12 yes. For MY body, I respond well to a low dose 200-300mg for a longer time. Versus a higher dose 500mg for 12 weeks. I have many more sides when done that way. Just takes some time playing around seeing what you, individually, react best to.
 
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