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You and others like you, dissatisfied with the seller, what are you doing in this thread? Go to other sellers, buy from them. Just don't whine here.
I beleive it's not so much about whinning for some people but more about accountability..The only accountability for sources here are what us as members hold them to.. Yeah I beleive there to be a difference in being a whinny bitch, and trying to bring accountability..Possibly take this into consider..
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Just don't whine here.

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I mean and that's why you never suggest a source to anyone except if you have hard facts (lab test) to prove something and with the big disclaimer: IT'S GOOD UNTIL IT'S NOT ANYMORE.

I'm disappointed Yura, you had heaven door opened by some of those orals blind test and you srlsy fucked it up.
What a shame.
 
Tell you what , you lot are full of shit , pages and pages now of crying, what do you want? A hug , tissue a sorry ? Buy or don’t buy, give the source time to test everything as promised, not every single product is tested on the price list anyway! But I bet most of you have still bought the untested products? Stop crying in your milk because your little 10mg dianabol isn’t tested . Gen z snowflakes
You and others like you, dissatisfied with the seller, what are you doing in this thread? Go to other sellers, buy from them. Just don't whine here.
What most keyboard warriors/customers/whinny little bitches think they are doing in this thread:

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What they actually are doing
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I can understand the whiny bitch sentiment. I hate whiny bitches. I've said similar things before, too.

I think where there is issue is that folks (including myself) ordered orals under the impression that they were the same batch that had been proven tested with tight variance and scored.

Instead, only to receive a different batch, from a completely different manufacturer. With no prior mention of this switch occurring by Yura.

It was only after this change was brought to the board attention by members, that Yura modified the price list to include the two different sets of orals (untested unscored vs tested scored) and then subsequently hiked prices on the tested and scored orals.

The fundamental issue I see here is a lack of transparency by the vendor, a move similar to a bait and switch, and lack of customer ability to purchase with full informed consent.

Now that this issue has been brought to light, any customer ordering can do so with full informed consent knowing they will need to pay a premium for the tested scored orals vs the untested unscored orals.

Yes, I am aware that the "new batch" of orals is getting sent out for testing: that's great.

Once again, the primary issue is that this information was not provided by the vendor but rather uncovered by customers who unknowingly ordered and received a product that was not to reasonable expectations. E.g., think they're purchasing tested scored orals only to receive "new batch" untested unscored orals.

Is it possible and probable the new batch of orals will test just fine? Yes, it is.

But that's not really the point here.

It's about holding vendors to a higher standard and ensuring that members can purchase armed with full information to make an informed choice.
 
I can understand the whiny bitch sentiment. I hate whiny bitches. I've said similar things before, too.

I think where there is issue is that folks (including myself) ordered orals under the impression that they were the same batch that had been proven tested with tight variance and scored.

Instead, only to receive a different batch, from a completely different manufacturer. With no prior mention of this switch occurring by Yura.

It was only after this change was brought to the board attention by members, that Yura modified the price list to include the two different sets of orals (untested unscored vs tested scored) and then subsequently hiked prices on the tested and scored orals.

The fundamental issue I see here is a lack of transparency by the vendor, a move similar to a bait and switch, and lack of customer ability to purchase with full informed consent.

Now that this issue has been brought to light, any customer ordering can do so with full informed consent knowing they will need to pay a premium for the tested scored orals vs the untested unscored orals.

Yes, I am aware that the "new batch" of orals is getting sent out for testing: that's great.

Once again, the primary issue is that this information was not provided by the vendor but rather uncovered by customers who unknowingly ordered and received a product that was not to reasonable expectations. E.g., think they're purchasing tested scored orals only to receive "new batch" untested unscored orals.

Is it possible and probable the new batch of orals will test just fine? Yes, it is.

But that's not really the point here.

It's about holding vendors to a higher standard and ensuring that members can purchase armed with full information to make an informed choice.
some of the guys on the forums still living in early 2000’s … “back then you would send money and hope for the best”. its like the dude that went into prison in early 2000’s and come out with 5xl t shirt and shorts with reeboks lmao…
 
I can understand the whiny bitch sentiment. I hate whiny bitches. I've said similar things before, too.

I think where there is issue is that folks (including myself) ordered orals under the impression that they were the same batch that had been proven tested with tight variance and scored.

Instead, only to receive a different batch, from a completely different manufacturer. With no prior mention of this switch occurring by Yura.

It was only after this change was brought to the board attention by members, that Yura modified the price list to include the two different sets of orals (untested unscored vs tested scored) and then subsequently hiked prices on the tested and scored orals.

The fundamental issue I see here is a lack of transparency by the vendor, a move similar to a bait and switch, and lack of customer ability to purchase with full informed consent.

Now that this issue has been brought to light, any customer ordering can do so with full informed consent knowing they will need to pay a premium for the tested scored orals vs the untested unscored orals.

Yes, I am aware that the "new batch" of orals is getting sent out for testing: that's great.

Once again, the primary issue is that this information was not provided by the vendor but rather uncovered by customers who unknowingly ordered and received a product that was not to reasonable expectations. E.g., think they're purchasing tested scored orals only to receive "new batch" untested unscored orals.

Is it possible and probable the new batch of orals will test just fine? Yes, it is.

But that's not really the point here.

It's about holding vendors to a higher standard and ensuring that members can purchase armed with full information to make an informed choice.
Bet you wouldn’t hold Tito “accountable” for such things. Lmao
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I can understand the whiny bitch sentiment. I hate whiny bitches. I've said similar things before, too.

I think where there is issue is that folks (including myself) ordered orals under the impression that they were the same batch that had been proven tested with tight variance and scored.

Instead, only to receive a different batch, from a completely different manufacturer. With no prior mention of this switch occurring by Yura.

It was only after this change was brought to the board attention by members, that Yura modified the price list to include the two different sets of orals (untested unscored vs tested scored) and then subsequently hiked prices on the tested and scored orals.

The fundamental issue I see here is a lack of transparency by the vendor, a move similar to a bait and switch, and lack of customer ability to purchase with full informed consent.

Now that this issue has been brought to light, any customer ordering can do so with full informed consent knowing they will need to pay a premium for the tested scored orals vs the untested unscored orals.

Yes, I am aware that the "new batch" of orals is getting sent out for testing: that's great.

Once again, the primary issue is that this information was not provided by the vendor but rather uncovered by customers who unknowingly ordered and received a product that was not to reasonable expectations. E.g., think they're purchasing tested scored orals only to receive "new batch" untested unscored orals.

Is it possible and probable the new batch of orals will test just fine? Yes, it is.

But that's not really the point here.

It's about holding vendors to a higher standard and ensuring that members can purchase armed with full information to make an informed choice.
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There's some sort of weird championing for source mentality going on in this bitch. If a source pulls a fucking swaparoo on an expected quality of tablet and delivers something entirely different we want to know about it. All of those folks in here telling ppl to stop whining, just shut the fuck up and stop reading these threads then, go swarm back into the tren gay porn addiction threads. These source threads are literally here to catalog people's experiences good or bad and give people the knowledge to make up their own minds for ordering. If they all just shut the fuck up and didn't "whine" what would even be the point of the thread or forum in general?
 
There's some sort of weird championing for source mentality going on in this bitch. If a source pulls a fucking swaparoo on an expected quality of tablet and delivers something entirely different we want to know about it. All of those folks in here telling ppl to stop whining, just shut the fuck up and stop reading these threads then, go swarm back into the tren gay porn addiction threads. These source threads are literally here to catalog people's experiences good or bad and give people the knowledge to make up their own minds for ordering. If they all just shut the fuck up and didn't "whine" what would even be the point of the thread or forum in general?
Yeah and @Yura(HYB) what the fuck is really going on with getting these GD packs sent out!! You can only keep bullshitying a mother fucker so much.. last week when I ordered... no problems mentioned, then tward the end of the week it's, we are having problems shit will be sent out on monday!! Now here it is Wednesday still not shit..... its not like I'm in a hurry to get my shit either, I just don't like to be fed a line of shit over and over
 
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I can understand the whiny bitch sentiment. I hate whiny bitches. I've said similar things before, too.

I think where there is issue is that folks (including myself) ordered orals under the impression that they were the same batch that had been proven tested with tight variance and scored.

Instead, only to receive a different batch, from a completely different manufacturer. With no prior mention of this switch occurring by Yura.

It was only after this change was brought to the board attention by members, that Yura modified the price list to include the two different sets of orals (untested unscored vs tested scored) and then subsequently hiked prices on the tested and scored orals.

The fundamental issue I see here is a lack of transparency by the vendor, a move similar to a bait and switch, and lack of customer ability to purchase with full informed consent.

Now that this issue has been brought to light, any customer ordering can do so with full informed consent knowing they will need to pay a premium for the tested scored orals vs the untested unscored orals.

Yes, I am aware that the "new batch" of orals is getting sent out for testing: that's great.

Once again, the primary issue is that this information was not provided by the vendor but rather uncovered by customers who unknowingly ordered and received a product that was not to reasonable expectations. E.g., think they're purchasing tested scored orals only to receive "new batch" untested unscored orals.

Is it possible and probable the new batch of orals will test just fine? Yes, it is.

But that's not really the point here.

It's about holding vendors to a higher standard and ensuring that members can purchase armed with full information to make an informed choice.
Making a comment that the source fucked up and is not to be trusted because of the change in the product is understandable. Warning members of that is good and it should be done

Constant spam aka whining is not. Vote with your wallet. Don't buy shit again and let the vendor feel it in his pocket until he/she/it corrects that mistake and publicly apologizes and owns that mishap. If he/she/it doesn't, fuck him/she/it.

I recently send some business to GA foe ready made oil. My friend bought twice while the old prices were in effect. He wanted more, and because he doesn't use forums all that much for this kind of shit, I said to him not to until GA lowers the prices again and fixes potential packaging problems. I 'll let him know when things change.
 
Making a comment that the source fucked up and is not to be trusted because of the change in the product is understandable. Warning members of that is good and it should be done

Constant spam aka whining is not. Vote with your wallet. Don't buy shit again and let the vendor feel it in his pocket until he/she/it corrects that mistake and publicly apologizes and owns that mishap. If he/she/it doesn't, fuck him/she/it.

I recently send some business to GA foe ready made oil. My friend bought twice while the old prices were in effect. He wanted more, and because he doesn't use forums all that much for this kind of shit, I said to him not to until GA lowers the prices again and fixes potential packaging problems. I 'll let him know when things change.
I hear ya. I can get on board with that, and agree that voting with wallet is most powerful action we have.
 
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