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[Axxium]

Not if they don’t want to end up like QSC, SSA etc….

We need a good China (aka “cheap”) rHGH supplier that’s not putting themselves at risk of getting busted by selling controlled drugs. WWB, GGB, and others can handle oils.

Most of the other peptide only sellers won’t touch rHGH or have stupid prices.

Especially now that Tracy’s decided selling out of product a few times means he must have a “premium” product and not a “value” seller any more, jacking up prices by 30%.

He will lose business when more vendors sell and open back up. His prices are redic for the quality.

 

[Aleksamara]

He will lose business when more vendors sell and open back up. His prices are redic for the quality.

He won't lose anything. This seller responds well to market changes. He will simply lower his prices to make them competitive.And the results of his INDEPENDENT TESTS are quite good

 

[Axxium]

He won't lose anything. This seller responds well to market changes. He will simply lower his prices to make them competitive.And the results of his INDEPENDENT TESTS are quite good

Dude sends a vial of good stuff to be tested and sends out underdosed stuff to custys. His lab results mean jack shit it’s the ppl who get the product that need to test…

That’s not even the real Tracy fyi…

 

[about1314]

1 kit of reta 20mg.China warehouse.Took 21 days to the east coast

how was the reta?

 

[FioraNN]

Are these the H10s from HYB or just 36s?
I had cloudy issue
But no issues injecting filtered and unfiltered

Yes - H36 Black Top

Out of curiosity are you using Hospira branded bac water or something else?

BAC Water from SSA

rHGH aggregates can trigger a strong immune reaction:

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I was unware of this, no issues in the past but I will definitely mix it with more bac water going onwards, hopefully this il solve the issue

I have always used 1mL with 36's, QSC and SSA, always been clear. I'm glad i'm not dead. I have a bunch of HYB 36's inbound so we will see.

Let us know how they mix up

Are they just cloudy or gel like?

Just got my first order from them, and my kisspeptin vials are gel like, like hyaluronic acid

Never experienced this in 15 years of using peptides. Now seeing posts on cloudy peptides in the last pages. mine are cloudy as well but very thick

How is this even possible?

Yura told me they could give store credit but i want new vials. asked about free shipping as i just payed 400 usd. no respons

Both. Cloudy and very gel like. I've never had issues like this with products from SSA or QSA, even with the same concentration of HGH and Bac water

 

[Tobman]

Yes - H36 Black Top


BAC Water from SSA


I was unware of this, no issues in the past but I will definitely mix it with more bac water going onwards, hopefully this il solve the issue


Let us know how they mix up


Both. Cloudy and very gel like. I've never had issues like this with products from SSA or QSA, even with the same concentration of HGH and Bac water

If it’s the same issue I had with the H10
it’s entirely down to the HGH
Sent Yura a video of you reconstituting a vial
You will get them replaced, Same as I did

 

[Ghoul]

Damn, thanks for the deep dive. Appreciate it

I’ve been so far down the immunogenicity —- > aggregates —-> filtering road I got to the “forgot more than you know” level on these topics lol. The snarky comment gave me the opportunity “to pull it all together” and remind myself of why I filter all this stuff. Not just to reduce the risk of potential harm to health, but to ensure these things keep working by minimizing immunogenicity and the potential of ling term or even lifelong decreased effectiveness of critically important drugs.

One retort I got in the past was “there is no immunogenicity problem with rHGH any more”, which is largely true, and an appealing argument. But that’s not an accident, and doesn’t apply to UGL. It’s the result of 30 years of progress by Pharma / FDA making sure that’s the case with things like increasingly stricter limits on aggregates and preventing their formation, something that’s completely out of control with UGL.

And that applies to all UGL peptides.

You almost couldn’t engineer a worse set of conditions to maximize immunogenicity risk than we have with UGL peptides / protein drugs,

 

[RoidyNoob]

I’ve been so far down the immunogenicity —- > aggregates —-> filtering road I got to the “forgot more than you know” level on these topics lol. The snarky comment gave me the opportunity “to pull it all together” and remind myself of why I filter all this stuff. Not just to reduce the risk of potential harm to health, but to ensure these things keep working by minimizing immunogenicity and the potential of ling term or even lifelong decreased effectiveness of critically important drugs.

One retort I got in the past was “there is no immunogenicity problem with rHGH any more”, which is largely true, and an appealing argument. But that’s not an accident, and doesn’t apply to UGL. It’s the result of 30 years of progress by Pharma / FDA making sure that’s the case with things like increasingly stricter limits on aggregates and preventing their formation, something that’s completely out of control with UGL.

And that applies to all UGL peptides.

You almost couldn’t engineer a worse set of conditions to maximize immunogenicity risk than we have with UGL peptides / protein drugs,

Definitely bud. I got nothing to add though lol. The only thing I can say is that I use syringe filters (.22ppm) to help reduce contaminants or whatever the filter picks up. What do you think of the use filters? thx again for the thorough info

 

[nxckf]

I’ve been so far down the immunogenicity —- > aggregates —-> filtering road I got to the “forgot more than you know” level on these topics lol. The snarky comment gave me the opportunity “to pull it all together” and remind myself of why I filter all this stuff. Not just to reduce the risk of potential harm to health, but to ensure these things keep working by minimizing immunogenicity and the potential of ling term or even lifelong decreased effectiveness of critically important drugs.

One retort I got in the past was “there is no immunogenicity problem with rHGH any more”, which is largely true, and an appealing argument. But that’s not an accident, and doesn’t apply to UGL. It’s the result of 30 years of progress by Pharma / FDA making sure that’s the case with things like increasingly stricter limits on aggregates and preventing their formation, something that’s completely out of control with UGL.

And that applies to all UGL peptides.

You almost couldn’t engineer a worse set of conditions to maximize immunogenicity risk than we have with UGL peptides / protein drugs,

Before reading a lot of the information you’ve shared regarding aggregation as it relates to immunogenicity, I decided to purchase 36iu kits of GH to get the best $/IU deal. To my understanding- the sooner a vial is used after reconstitution the better (less time sitting after reconstitution), so smaller IU vials are ideal.

When filtering my 36IU vials, is it better to filter each individual dose before use or just filter the entire 36IU into another sterile vial? I know more will be wasted filtering individual doses but which is safer as far as reducing aggregation?

 

[Y2_dyc]

I’ve recently got H36 yellow tops from Yura. What’s the general consensus for this GH vs the other colour top GHs?

 

[HotPepper]

Let us know how they mix up


Both. Cloudy and very gel like. I've never had issues like this with products from SSA or QSA, even with the same concentration of HGH and Bac water

This is normal, because kisspeptin shouldn't be mixed with normal Bac water. Is has the wrong pH.

And because the "right" water, what some sellers are also selling, is shit (near to the right pH, but not matching totally) it often will be like gel with that too.

 

[Ghoul]

I’ve recently got H36 yellow tops from Yura. What’s the general consensus for this GH vs the other colour top GHs?

No negative reports that I’ve seen. Appears to be the original “post SSA bust batch”, coming from the same source, that all 3 of the 3 letter sellers have been flinging. There are a few tests from 5-6 months ago that look ok. The UGL standard “36iu” but really 40iu kits, ok purity and just a tiny bit of dimer.

It’s the more recent ones people have received with other color tops no test results seem to be available for yet.

 

[Axxium]

I’ve recently got H36 yellow tops from Yura. What’s the general consensus for this GH vs the other colour top GHs?

Those are g2g 39 iu vials

 

[FIna]

To EU:

Tracking sent 23/10, landed in Germany 12/10 - no update since.
Not worried but definitely slow for sure due to time of year.

Landed, everything perfect

 

[FioraNN]

If it’s the same issue I had with the H10
it’s entirely down to the HGH
Sent Yura a video of you reconstituting a vial
You will get them replaced, Same as I did

I cant get hold of Yura since tuesday.. but it says “seen recently” on telegram.

 

[Tobman]

I sent across as requested by him
He said he would pass onto technicians
I let a week go by
Then I chased and straight away, agreed replacement
I wouldn’t big someone up if it wasn’t justified

He is busy man but I have no doubt you’ll get a response, takes a little time

 

[pheno609]

He is busy man but I have no doubt you’ll get a response, takes a little time

They cant be that busy considering more than half of the market was essentailly cut since they stoppped selling oils. Other vendors seem to have much faster shipping times recently, at least to the US. Would be a shame to see HYB go out like JY

 

[tweek]

No more Canada warehouse?

 

[joeblow543212]

No more Canada warehouse?

Well thats shit.

 

[tweek]

Well thats shit.

I just noticed its no longer on the price list.

Was hoping to see a stock of hgh in there at some point