HYB SCAMMING

[5TheNegative]

You are getting a bargian ; but at what cost?

You haven't the slightest idea about their recipes because there's no transparency. Look at the more recent photos of all this hepius gutter oil, it's rediculous.

Did a bit more reading. Im sold on not using China oil.

But to be fair, there's some really good domestic vendor prices here. Much better than my old forum.

 

[shredded.lyfe]

Did a bit more reading. Im sold on not using China oil.

But to be fair, there's some really good domestic vendor prices here. Much better than my old forum.

Domestic sellers are just labelling Chinese shit and reselling it.

Sometimes they might filter it into a new vial.

Best case scenario they're using a Chinese raw and brewing it themselves.

But literally everyone Domestic is just labelling and reselling Chinese peptides, why would they do anything different for Oils?

The only way you can guarantee difference is buying Indian oils.

 

[5TheNegative]

Domestic sellers are just labelling Chinese shit and reselling it.

Sometimes they might filter it into a new vial.

Best case scenario they're using a Chinese raw and brewing it themselves.

But literally everyone Domestic is just labelling and reselling Chinese peptides, why would they do anything different for Oils?

The only way you can guarantee difference is buying Indian oils.

Great, now I'm paranoid.

 

[Celt12345]

I'm being fucked around by him on telegram at the moment.

I've given him 24hrs to reply before I post the details of what happened on meso.


Beware of the delete chat for both option on telegram is all that I'll say for now. Be sure to save ur messages whatever u do.

 

[Ziath11]

Domestic sellers are just labelling Chinese shit and reselling it.

Sometimes they might filter it into a new vial.

Best case scenario they're using a Chinese raw and brewing it themselves.

But literally everyone Domestic is just labelling and reselling Chinese peptides, why would they do anything different for Oils?

The only way you can guarantee difference is buying Indian oils.

This is simply just not true and has only been the case for select vendors mostly for Primo, some of which have been caught and called out for it. Peptides come from China yes and that’s obvious.. nobody expects these vendors to be synthesizing this shit in their homes. Same goes for raws, for the most part they all come from from China if not India or some other country across the world and then domestic sources make the brews. Hence why it is standard for sources to post their lab setup here. Same goes for raws as for peptides because nobody has the resources to make this shit at home. Please stop speaking out of your ass.

 

[5TheNegative]

This is simply just not true and has only been the case for select vendors mostly for Primo, some of which have been caught and called out for it. Peptides come from China yes and that’s obvious.. nobody expects these vendors to be synthesizing this shit in their homes. Same goes for raws, for the most part they all come from from China if not India or some other country across the world and then domestic sources make the brews. Hence why it is standard for sources to post their lab setup here. Same goes for raws as for peptides because nobody has the resources to make this shit at home. Please stop speaking out of your ass.

The back and forth I get on this is really making me want to home brew. Obviously I've been fine so far with my oil sources the last two years, but the last thing any of us wants is an infection.

 

[Ziath11]

The back and forth I get on this is really making me want to home brew. Obviously I've been fine so far with my oil sources the last two years, but the last thing any of us wants is an infection.

Check almost any source page here and you will see their entire brewing setup photographed. Apparently this guy just thinks that’s for show and then they smack a label on oils. Has it happened? Yes and it’s currently happening with things like Primo because of the shortage. Go check out primals thread and look what happened there. But it looks like he got caught and admitted it and has since acquired raws, tested them, and brewed with them. Don’t let this guy fear monger you on some bullshit lies. Infection is always a concern and at the end of the day we do put trust in these sources to brew correctly and maintain sterility. But sources here are held to these standards much more than most forums. If you wanna be safe then yes you can always get your oils from India Pharma if that makes you feel safer. But if the concern is rebottled Chinese oils then you don’t have too much to worry about just vet the source properly.

 

[shredded.lyfe]

The back and forth I get on this is really making me want to home brew. Obviously I've been fine so far with my oil sources the last two years, but the last thing any of us wants is an infection.

Just filter all your shit, you can even filter it back into the original vial if you want, I personally wouldn't be pedantic enough to buy sterile vials to filter into.

 

[shredded.lyfe]

Check almost any source page here and you will see their entire brewing setup photographed. Apparently this guy just thinks that’s for show and then they smack a label on oils. Has it happened? Yes and it’s currently happening with things like Primo because of the shortage. Go check out primals thread and look what happened there. But it looks like he got caught and admitted it and has since acquired raws, tested them, and brewed with them. Don’t let this guy fear monger you on some bullshit lies. Infection is always a concern and at the end of the day we do put trust in these sources to brew correctly and maintain sterility. But sources here are held to these standards much more than most forums. If you wanna be safe then yes you can always get your oils from India Pharma if that makes you feel safer. But if the concern is rebottled Chinese oils then you don’t have too much to worry about just vet the source properly.

Domestic sources found through this forum are a small fraction of the total suppliers and your omission that they themselves have been caught doing exactly what I said only solidifies the truth, what do you think the majority of sellers are doing that don't use message boards like this? Doesn't take a genius.

Every tiktok and Instagram shitfluencer who has a peptide affiliate or are selling themselves are just labelled vials from HYB, WWB, GGB (and SSA and QSG before them)

Times don't change friend.

Moral of the story, put all these criminals at arms length and do your due diligence, filter your shit and hope for the best or make it yourself.

 

[5TheNegative]

Just filter all your shit, you can even filter it back into the original vial if you want, I personally wouldn't be pedantic enough to buy sterile vials to filter into.

I've always drawn with a filter needle at least, but after reading up here I think I'll properly begin filtering everything.

 

[Photon]

I've always drawn with a filter needle at least, but after reading up here I think I'll properly begin filtering everything.

A filter needle is 5.0 um.
It's meant for filtering broke glass from amps which are usually around >8.0 um.

It's not going to add much value to whatever you're filtering.
There's no glass in CN oils.

You need a 0.22um PTFE filter

 

[Ziath11]

Domestic sources found through this forum are a small fraction of the total suppliers and your omission that they themselves have been caught doing exactly what I said only solidifies the truth, what do you think the majority of sellers are doing that don't use message boards like this? Doesn't take a genius.

Every tiktok and Instagram shitfluencer who has a peptide affiliate or are selling themselves are just labelled vials from HYB, WWB, GGB (and SSA and QSG before them)

Times don't change friend.

Moral of the story, put all these criminals at arms length and do your due diligence, filter your shit and hope for the best or make it yourself.

Nobody is talking about peptides, everyone knows they're manufactured in China and relabeled. I'm specifically talked about oils which has only recently become a slight issue with Primo. Why would we be talking about other boards sources while we're here on Meso? Nobody is talking about other boards or TikTok sources.. If someone is buying AAS oils off TikTok then yes absolutely there are a lot more worries than just relabeled Chinese oils. But here that is not a realistic issue. But you don't need to fear monger acting like every source here is relabeling Chinese oils because thats simply not true. FYI not against filtering and promoting the use of that.

 

[Jaxino]

I've always drawn with a filter needle at least, but after reading up here I think I'll properly begin filtering everything.

Better if you stop AAS, it's not a game for paranoids like you.