I did the testing myself guys. Pharma gh vs good generic.

[hghlover]

since the beginning of reading in forums comparing pharm vs. generic was always a hot topic. In every forum that i was in.
But i give here my personal opinion after 10 years of lifting, of meeting and talking to people etc. etc.
With aas i would say if you have a good source go with UGL. It was for me always g2g.
But GH is a different game. Even if you have a good generic or the best or highest tested generic gh. Nobody can tell me that this gh is working 1:1 equal to the pharm gh.
Why im telling it like that? When i was younger and running shows in my gym was like a small crew and everyone run pharm for atleast a year. Lilly, genos etc. from 4-10ui and i tell ya the transformation we did was insane. So after the show, we thought okay lets save some money and hop on generics. And i dont wanna say manufactures but we was taking ''the best'' generics at that time. And to compare them 1:1
Water retention is more with generics no doubt. The Pumps and fullness are good. Sleep and recovery was good but not on par with pharm.
But the biggest missing link was Fat loss. Even on 8 ius i didnt got that fat loss, that i had on 4 ius from lilly. Overall i would say on pharm gh is the well being for me also a bit better. Its like cleaner. Less sides, more purity.
To all the People i talked in the Competing Community said just the pharm is the real deal, they didnt mess with the generics. Off course Money has to be there. But the point im try to make is that i dont know anybody on stage who uses generics.

So if you can get the real deal, get the real deal. And if you can only affort generics its fine. But dont always compare a c63 to a c350. The c350 is still a merc right. Buts its not a amg

I would say for bulking and cruising is generic o.k but for prep no way. Not even a chance.
I hope you guys didnt get cancer from reading english it is my third language.

Man im so confused.. I don't fucking get it.. how can it be night and day when its the same.. either is hgh or its not

 

[hghlover]

By the way is ansomone considered pharma?

 

[evgenji.exe]

Man im so confused.. I don't fucking get it.. how can it be night and day when its the same.. either is hgh or its not

that is the million dollar question no one can answer you.
Some people say, in the generics are just a bunch of peptides mimicking gh results, but labs proved otherwise.
Some say the storage/transport or logistics are not as good or on par with pharm grade.
At the end, dont think to long about it because i've seen this topic quite often over the years and no one can tell you 100% whats the answer.

My last two cents. Look at your goals/ needs and on ur budget. And decide what is better for you. If you have the money and the need for the best gh available go for pharm. If money is a issue then dont bother. Go with generics

 

[Isrrike]

Man im so confused.. I don't fucking get it.. how can it be night and day when its the same.. either is hgh or its not

Some can say the same about alcohol. It’s all alcohol at the end of the day but different drinks make you different drunk

 

[daron_e]

Maybe from a potency standpoint..beyond that I couldn't disagree more. Fillers and impurities as well as the brewing process matter. I have been at this a very long time and tried most everything. My bloods have been far better on human grade at the same doses than when I used all UG gear. I get them done 4x a year.. And I feel better in general. I mean a very noticeable difference. Between the two that is no coincidence. I don't use Tren or EQ so I will stick with HG. As far as Gh..don't even get me started. Does it warrant the cost difference? Everyone needs to make up their own mind on that one. To me it absolutely does..especially if ur in this for the long haul.

 

[malfeasance]

yeah, i have some spare time right now since im sick, therefore cant work or train. Also it took me not much time since i participated in those threads and therefore still had them on mind..
All ive said is your comparision sucks if you have not run both under the same circumstances, which obviously, you have not.
I am on trt and 1,2iu huma and i can tell you straight away it is a difference to 1,5iu meditrope batch 95 which tested very good and still does a good job.

What kind of difference? Could you elaborate a little?

 

[hghlover]

that is the million dollar question no one can answer you.
Some people say, in the generics are just a bunch of peptides mimicking gh results, but labs proved otherwise.
Some say the storage/transport or logistics are not as good or on par with pharm grade.
At the end, dont think to long about it because i've seen this topic quite often over the years and no one can tell you 100% whats the answer.

My last two cents. Look at your goals/ needs and on ur budget. And decide what is better for you. If you have the money and the need for the best gh available go for pharm. If money is a issue then dont bother. Go with generics

Yea it's hard to say.. the whole generic containing peptides tho is absolute horse shit. No peptides is able to mimic hgh that way and give igf 1 levels of 600+.

My neighbours dog actually had some meditrope seized by customs. The cops sent it for lab analysis and it came back containing hgh. No suprise tho, but yea..

I even had meditrope once shipped in the summer when it was pretty damn hot, and it was stuck for a whole week before I could get it.. it worked just fine with 3 iu knocking me out!

However, different fillers, impurities, dimer etc.. yea im with you on that

 

[Ironman 580]

Let me get this straight - u pinned 3 iu and it knocked u out - cmon man - impossible - I don’t Know why u guys exegerate everything and give such false info-3iu isn’t much at all man

 

[hghlover]

I love this forum, fucking meatheads

 

[Isrrike]

The only time something knocked me out was when I pinned 8 iu one shot of a fake geno cart and it put me to sleep from whatever fuckin anti diuretic sugar shit was inside it

 

[M@NU]

The only time something knocked me out was when I pinned 8 iu one shot of a fake geno cart and it put me to sleep from whatever fuckin anti diuretic sugar shit was inside it

they sometimes use insulin because the smell is similar

 

[malfeasance]

they sometimes use insulin because the smell is similar

Have you actually encountered this?

I should think I would have read about it, that is, somebody actually having this happen, since injecting a bunch of insulin that you think is hgh would probably end up with a trip to the hospital, you unconscious in a sweaty pool.

 

[evgenji.exe]

The only time something knocked me out was when I pinned 8 iu one shot of a fake geno cart and it put me to sleep from whatever fuckin anti diuretic sugar shit was inside it

shiiiiit

the only time something knocked me out was when i had started with peptides and got ghrp 6, ipa and some melanotan 2. I didnt knew a lot of it at that time. Im a big dude so i thought go with big doses right away(mistake). Injected 1 ml mixed of all together and drove to work. And i tell you, i passed out after i sat on the drive seat... and my gf had to bring me back to life haha

 

[Boss Brady 12]

No offense but a month isnt a long time to run a test and did you do igf test on bloods for each hgh brand?I only run seros after years of running generics and i noticed huge difference on side effects for generics and they couldnt move my igf over 300 at 6iu but i run 3iu of pharm grade and its over 300 everytime! Godtropin are def not good generics unless something changed while i was gone!

 

[Isrrike]

I believe the insulin smell is from the preservative m-cresol

 

[Boss Brady 12]

insulin is not in pharm grade its something they add that gives that hospital band aid smell too i think forget the name.

 

[Country Club Hero]

they sometimes use insulin because the smell is similar

I’ve only used Pharma GH minimally but that smell is something that really stood out. It smells like my pediatrician’s office from 30 years ago. Very distinct smell. I’ve used lots of different generics and have never noticed that smell with them. And you’re the first person I’ve seen mention it.

regarding generics being peptides, I’ve considered that. Something doesn’t add up. And I have a hard time believing some of these even bigger UGL outfits have the equipment required to make such a complex substance. But I’ll admit I’m pretty clueless in that area.

Gun to my head and I had to bet…. there’s some kind of trickery going on with generics. But dammit if they don’t work also. Especially these more recent ones like Goldtops, mauves, blacks etc. They work very well. But I’m still leery.

 

[Isrrike]

The smell is M-Cresol. It is the preservative in insulin

 

[M@NU]

What kind of difference? Could you elaborate a little?

less sides mainly

Have you actually encountered this?

I should think I would have read about it, that is, somebody actually having this happen, since injecting a bunch of insulin that you think is hgh would probably end up with a trip to the hospital, you unconscious in a sweaty pool.

yes, ive read about it on another board where someone had pens (not geno, it were some premixed ones) where the pulled out the gh and added insulin

 

[Country Club Hero]

The smell is M-Cresol. It is the preservative in insulin

Why is it not used in generic GH?