I did the testing myself guys. Pharma gh vs good generic.

[lilhawk]

Why is it not used in generic GH?

It’s only used in pens as a preservative.

 

[daron_e]

I’ve only used Pharma GH minimally but that smell is something that really stood out. It smells like my pediatrician’s office from 30 years ago. Very distinct smell. I’ve used lots of different generics and have never noticed that smell with them. And you’re the first person I’ve seen mention it.

regarding generics being peptides, I’ve considered that. Something doesn’t add up. And I have a hard time believing some of these even bigger UGL outfits have the equipment required to make such a complex substance. But I’ll admit I’m pretty clueless in that area.

Gun to my head and I had to bet…. there’s some kind of trickery going on with generics. But dammit if they don’t work also. Especially these more recent ones like Goldtops, mauves, blacks etc. They work very well. But I’m still leery.

The smell is real with human grade...ur right also..never smelled that with any generic and I have been using since before the days of Nordic..old school guys will remember.

 

[daron_e]

that is the million dollar question no one can answer you.
Some people say, in the generics are just a bunch of peptides mimicking gh results, but labs proved otherwise.
Some say the storage/transport or logistics are not as good or on par with pharm grade.
At the end, dont think to long about it because i've seen this topic quite often over the years and no one can tell you 100% whats the answer.

My last two cents. Look at your goals/ needs and on ur budget. And decide what is better for you. If you have the money and the need for the best gh available go for pharm. If money is a issue then dont bother. Go with generics

I think it's with the filler and preservatives..but I am no expert.

 

[lilhawk]

The smell is real with human grade...ur right also..never smelled that with any generic and I have been using since before the days of Nordic..old school guys will remember.

Nordic… Novotropins and Thanktropins I believe is what he had, or maybe that was Pep. Remember those well, used those up until I switched to Serostim. Yeah only the pharm grade pens have that smell, pharm grade vials of Serostim don’t have it because m cresol is only used in the pens as preservative.

 

[Country Club Hero]

Nordic… Novotropins and Thanktropins I believe is what he had, or maybe that was Pep. Remember those well, used those up until I switched to Serostim. Yeah only the pharm grade pens have that smell, pharm grade vials of Serostim don’t have it because m cresol is only used in the pens as preservative.

In all seriousness, it’s a great smell. i Love it

 

[Lord Commander]

I did the same comparison Genotropin vs Godtropin. Genotropin was good all around for sleep, energy, recovery etc. Godtropin did give me a jolt of energy but could not sleep with it. I don't know what was in those vials or was it degrared on the way to Europe but didnt work for me....

 

[Sector]

I did the same comparison Genotropin vs Godtropin. Genotropin was good all around for sleep, energy, recovery etc. Godtropin did give me a jolt of energy but could not sleep with it. I don't know what was in those vials or was it degrared on the way to Europe but didnt work for me....

I find the timing of the GH relevant to sleep.

If I dose my GH too close to bed time, I get the RHR spike, which can interrupt the sleep. I notice the increase in RHR about 1-2 hours post injection, then I get the GH lethargy tiredness like 3-4 hours post injection (both sub-q).

So I try to time my Gh about 3 hours before I go to sleep, so that it peaks around 4 hours post injection just after I fall asleep. I found this works best for me, but results can vary person to person

 

[AlexDavis43]

So I try to time my Gh about 3 hours before I go to sleep,

Yeah that's weird. I still dose twice a day but I naturally transitioned to PM dose an hour or so after dinner, almost exactly 3 hours before bed time.

It never really had an effect on my sleep quality personally, but interesting I gravitated toward that dose timing.

 

[Lord Commander]

I find the timing of the GH relevant to sleep.

If I dose my GH too close to bed time, I get the RHR spike, which can interrupt the sleep. I notice the increase in RHR about 1-2 hours post injection, then I get the GH lethargy tiredness like 3-4 hours post injection (both sub-q).

So I try to time my Gh about 3 hours before I go to sleep, so that it peaks around 4 hours post injection just after I fall asleep. I found this works best for me, but results can vary person to person

I guess i have to give the Godtropin another chance with dosing like this. If it doesnt work then its back to Geno for sure.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I guess i have to give the Godtropin another chance with dosing like this. If it doesnt work then its back to Geno for sure.

What is the perk with Godtropin? I've never used that product. Is it just availability or cost? or something else

 

[songsofpyramids]

Never heard of godtropin, but there’s a lot of banging testing gh on the market right now. I would try another generic honestly.

 

[Lord Commander]

What is the perk with Godtropin? I've never used that product. Is it just availability or cost? or something else

240IU is 300USD. I suppose the price is similar to QSC, i dont know. Haven't tried QSC myself.

 

[Lord Commander]

Never heard of godtropin, but there’s a lot of banging testing gh on the market right now. I would try another generic honestly.

What would you recommend for someone living in northern Europe?

 

[amazonas]

I find the timing of the GH relevant to sleep.

If I dose my GH too close to bed time, I get the RHR spike, which can interrupt the sleep. I notice the increase in RHR about 1-2 hours post injection, then I get the GH lethargy tiredness like 3-4 hours post injection (both sub-q).

So I try to time my Gh about 3 hours before I go to sleep, so that it peaks around 4 hours post injection just after I fall asleep. I found this works best for me, but results can vary person to person

Thanks for the tip, i stopped using GH before bedtime and switched to morning as it was impacting my sleep a lot. I will try pinning it 3-4 hours before bedtime now.

 

[songsofpyramids]

Thanks for the tip, i stopped using GH before bedtime and switched to morning as it was impacting my sleep a lot. I will try pinning it 3-4 hours before bedtime now.

I’ve read if you’re under 50 use in am, over 50 use in pm, or at least that’s what clinics prescribing it will tell you. I know morning bolus has been way way better for me.

 

[Lord Commander]

I find the timing of the GH relevant to sleep.

If I dose my GH too close to bed time, I get the RHR spike, which can interrupt the sleep. I notice the increase in RHR about 1-2 hours post injection, then I get the GH lethargy tiredness like 3-4 hours post injection (both sub-q).

So I try to time my Gh about 3 hours before I go to sleep, so that it peaks around 4 hours post injection just after I fall asleep. I found this works best for me, but results can vary person to person

I tried this last night and i certainly tire more and sleep better but i imagine i could sleep even better. I'm gonna do some experimenting with CJC/Ipa when they arrive. Might try 2iu of gh in the morning and cjc/ipa before sleep.

 

[Sector]

I tried this last night and i certainly tire more and sleep better but i imagine i could sleep even better. I'm gonna do some experimenting with CJC/Ipa when they arrive. Might try 2iu of gh in the morning and cjc/ipa before sleep.

Glad it worked better for you man. Some experimentation with the timing might be needed but 2-3 hours before generally works