I don’t need no rocking chair.

[The ole man]

I don’t reuse needles at all ever. Way to cheap to be fuckin around and get an abscess. Most like to draw with a large size like 21-23 and swap the tip for something smaller like 25 or 27. You can buy a box of 100 23gax1.5” with 3cc barrel and a box of 25gax1” tip on amazon for $40 or so.

If im not doing much oil I use a 27 for draw and injection. 27s are sharp and break skin easy.

Another thing, what your thought on depth? I’ve read some say you got to get it deep in the muscle, and then some say, u just need to get in the muscle.
I been using a 5/8 and I thought maybe I’m going to deep. But hell you said a 1 inch harpoon so I had to ask??? Lol

 

[Btcowboy]

On a diff subject tho.
Pip.
So my last cycle, after the first few puns the pip was nothing much, if any.

This cycle diff vendor same test e 300, I get pip from every pin accept for 1, which resulted in no pip.
Now wtf?
It’s got to be me!
So the last couple pins, I made triple sure that I followed the same process.
I use the pin that I did my last pin with, just the point, to draw, then replace with a brand new tip, and then pin. I keep everything in sealed Tupperware.
Do you think reusing my tip from last pin to draw with is bad technique?

Let me ask another question? Do most ppl just draw with the tip they plan to pin with?
I can’t understand how one spot i could get no pip, but hurt like a bitch, anywhere else.

I used to re use the drawing needle. There are little plastic caps for them. The drawing needle NEVER came out of the vial and was kept in a new pill bottle. Wiped it all with alcohol every time. In 10 months no issues, maybe just luck. However I became paranoid and bought a box of 20x1 for drawing and throw it out everytime. Use a new 25x1 to pin every time.

@Worf is right theu arr too cheap to take a chance on an abscess.

 

[Btcowboy]

Another thing, what your thought on depth? I’ve ran some say you got to get it deep in the muscle, and then some say, u just need to get in the muscle.
I been using a 5/8 and I thought maybe I’m going to deep. But hell you said a 1 inch harpoon so I had to ask??? Lol

1" brother for quads

 

[The ole man]

I used to re use the drawing needle. There are little plastic caps for them. The drawing needle NEVER came out of the vial and was kept in a new pill bottle. Wiped it all with alcohol every time. In 10 months no issues, maybe just luck. However I became paranoid and bought a box of 20x1 for drawing and throw it out everytime. Use a new 25x1 to pin every time.

@Worf is right theu arr too cheap to take a chance on an abscess.

No I agree! Consider them bought and paid for as we speak.
I didn’t know we could order from amazon tho lol

 

[Worf]

Another thing, what your thought on depth? I’ve ran some say you got to get it deep in the muscle, and then some say, u just need to get in the muscle.
I been using a 5/8 and I thought maybe I’m going to deep. But hell you said a 1 inch harpoon so I had to ask??? Lol

How much oil you inject each time? The more the longer IMO

 

[The ole man]

1" brother for quads

So you feel that you need to get 1 inch in the muscle?

 

[The ole man]

How much oil you inject each time? The more the longer IMO

That’s what’s crazy!
Last cycle 1 ml no pip after 4th pin of cycle
This time 1/2 ml and pip every time but 1.

 

[Btcowboy]

No I agree! Consider them bought and paid for as we speak.
I didn’t know we could order from amazon tho lol

I only did that because I didnt order online. Took me some explaining at Walmart to get a box of 50 25x1 with syringe but no drawing needles. Went to a couple drug stores and couldn't get anything. Finally 1 drugstore sold me 4 blunt tips (18 gauge). So used those.

Now I order online and get everything I need for less and way less dirty looks lol

 

[Btcowboy]

So you feel that you need to get 1 inch in the muscle?

I got very little fat on my quads and use a 1 it gets the oil where I want it. It's not that bad honest lol

 

[The ole man]

I only did that because I didnt order online. Took me some explaining at Walmart to get a box of 50 25x1 with syringe but no drawing needles. Went to a couple drug stores and couldn't get anything. Finally 1 drugstore sold me 4 blunt tips (18 gauge). So used those.

Now I order online and get everything I need for less and way less dirty looks lol

Well hell ya! I’m down! I’m order all mine from there. Shit I even got an Amazon card lol

 

[Worf]

That’s what’s crazy!
Last cycle 1 ml no pip after 4th pin of cycle
This time 1/2 ml and pip every time but 1.

Id use 27’sx5/8 or slin pins for .5 and less. 1-3cc -25’s x1 anything over 3cc Id use 23x1.25+

 

[The ole man]

Id use 27’sx5/8 or slin pins for .5 and less. 1-3cc -25’s x1 anything over 3cc Id use 23x1.25+

Appreciate it. I ordered some slin pins 29ga x 1/2 1 ml and some 25ga x 1 3ml

 

[Btcowboy]

Appreciate it. I ordered some slin pins 29ga x 1/2 1 ml and some 25ga x 1 3ml

I had prescribed HCG and pinned it with 30x1. I want paying the price they wanted for HCG to raise my test the little bit it raised it. So when the HCG ran out I started self administered test except I jumped right into my blast at 500. I used the 25x1 for the blast. I switched to the 30x1 to see if the oil would flow threw the 30's and it did. However to be honest with you I prefer the 25x1 to the 30x1 any day. But everyone is different you may like the slin pin, not sure about 1/2 inch though, where are you planning the 1/2 " for?

 

[The ole man]

Some times Test E has a bite to it depends on the brewer. Especially over 250 mg/ml. Also depends on carrier oil. Can always cut it with sterile GSO

So I see sterile filtered GSO on Amazon. Do you think amazon would be fine to order it from. It says it comes from Alpha lab supply.
So it’s fine to pull 1/2 cc of test, and half cc of sterile gso in the same syringe and pin?

 

[The ole man]

I had prescribed HCG and pinned it with 30x1. I want paying the price they wanted for HCG to raise my test the little bit it raised it. So when the HCG ran out I started self administered test except I jumped right into my blast at 500. I used the 25x1 for the blast. I switched to the 30x1 to see if the oil would flow threw the 30's and it did. However to be honest with you I prefer the 25x1 to the 30x1 any day. But everyone is different you may like the slin pin, not sure about 1/2 inch though, where are you planning the 1/2 " for?

Well I’m thinking of spitting up my sust 250 in to 1/2 ml delt and 1/2 ml other delt moving forward.
I just read some interesting things on pip. I’m down to cut it with some gso.
If pip happens in the first 24 hrs, the pain can be from solvents, and if it come on after 24 hrs it can be from crystallization. Being that 1 ml of oil can be absorbed by the body before the 300 mg of test can be absorbed leaving the test crystals which are similar to glass shards.
That’s why cutting with gso will help.
There are also many other factors.
But I understand what’s going on now at least.

Thanks Worf! As well as btcowboy

 

[Worf]

So I see sterile filtered GSO on Amazon. Do you think amazon would be fine to order it from. It says it comes from Alpha lab supply.
So it’s fine to pull 1/2 cc of test, and half cc of sterile gso in the same syringe and pin?

Using that brand myself to cut some prop, no issues to report.

 

[The ole man]

Using that brand myself to cut some prop, no issues to report.

Appreciate it. Ordered.
I appreciate you holding my hand and giving me a lil direction!

 

[The ole man]

Well we are at Tuesday. No sides at all, getting a little thinner in the abs, and a little more vascular.
Day 17.
20mg dbol/20 mg winny
Heading to the gym.

 

[The ole man]

How much oil you inject each time? The more the longer IMO

So brother the gso came in.
So I pull in half ml of gear, then 1/2 ml gso? Do I need to shake it a little to get it to mix?

 

[Worf]

That should work. I used a 1:1 ratio. I like to roll the syringe around to get the gso mixed up well