i'm sorry, vet and underground gear

niko said:
i'm sorry i was gone again this weekend w/ a popular post in discussion. i have never bought from an online source. i have friends on the other line of the phone.... i visit them, and actually know them. the newest shit is Beckley-Meyer cyp, prop, and deca. i've never seen this american brand up close, but i thought it would come in those tall, thin bottles, like upjohn. i didn't buy any... i did buy some ug femera, it kinda works (for 1 buck every 2 days it's awsome). i get really bad gyno. i can feel the lumps now, but they don't hurt, and they're smaller than normal. every time i take test they hurt like hell. i think the femera is just underdosed. nolva doesn't do shit @60mg ed. niko

Stay on the board and learn who is good. UG labs are in the business to make money and they can't do that if you don't grow. I only use UG gear now that I have compared UG, vet and human grade. There is no noticable difference except in my pocket book. Pup
 
niko said:
i'm sorry i was gone again this weekend w/ a popular post in discussion. i have never bought from an online source. i have friends on the other line of the phone.... i visit them, and actually know them. the newest shit is Beckley-Meyer cyp, prop, and deca. i've never seen this american brand up close, but i thought it would come in those tall, thin bottles, like upjohn. i didn't buy any... i did buy some ug femera, it kinda works (for 1 buck every 2 days it's awsome). i get really bad gyno. i can feel the lumps now, but they don't hurt, and they're smaller than normal. every time i take test they hurt like hell. i think the femera is just underdosed. nolva doesn't do shit @60mg ed. niko


im with you on the gyno!!! i walk next to a bottle of test and my tits tart itching. i take nolva 25mg ed and it don't do shit. anty suggestions bro?
 
I don't like Vet because you only get 8.5 or 9 ml in what is supposed to be 10ml. Also underdosed so your'e left guessing at what amount to use per stick,yeah I know it's cheap. UG at least you get what you pay for 10=10 &the 200 mg is 200mg,at least the stuff I've had experince with.The only prob I've had is the pain because of high BA content.Human is the best no doubt. More expensive but you get what you pay for & if you do some shopping around it's not much more than ug or vet,although there are fakes out there.It's a crap shoot boy's. Just my 2 cents.
 
I second the positive comment above on US GEAR.

I gained 17 lbs of lean mass using Profast. I currently switched to another well known UG lab (due to the pain in profast) and my gains have outright stalled. I even upped my calories by 2000+ more per day and NOTHIN.

I think this new stuff is either fake or under dosed.

Anyways, the profast hurts like a motherfucker, but it works well.
 
Excluding sust redi's, there are alot of fakes going around,I'd put morning star and zencall up against any human grade and there are other UG's that I can say the same about.
 
The worst are Mex drugs.They are usually underdosed as well as underfilled and most people who i know got absesses were almost always using water based vet injectables.But still they cost more than underground gear.Id say go with underground or if you are paranoid use human grade.The vet grade stuff is usually being made by the same guys who do your yardwork when they were living back in mexico but now they are into landscaping in the US.
 
Desibaba said:
The worst are Mex drugs.They are usually underdosed as well as underfilled and most people who i know got absesses were almost always using water based vet injectables.But still they cost more than underground gear.Id say go with underground or if you are paranoid use human grade.The vet grade stuff is usually being made by the same guys who do your yardwork when they were living back in mexico but now they are into landscaping in the US.

I happen to like QV gear...I have a batch now that is 103. somethin of test prop per ml. so sometimes u do get those...but if underdosed its like by 1 or 2..u know 99 or 97 mgs per ml...I dont think its that big o deal.

The diff between vet gear and human grade gear is the purity of the product...test is test...its like drinking tap water or evian...That is what I
was told by a good scorce that knows what he is talking about.
 
I actually started using QV and did not like it, it was underfilled and weak, now I make my own and never had problems I'd say if you are able to find a good powder source then you won't have problems.

Carlito
 
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