I'm starting to suspect that Opioids may be anti-parasitic in action... And that this is a SECRET..

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I'm creating this thread separately from any other similar/possibly intersecting threads - as it's a little far out.

So anyways. For many years I took hydrocodone daily. A decade in fact 20-30mgs/day. Most of that time I never felt any skin itching sensations. One day, I was chatting with a friend who was talking about how miserable he gets when he pops a hydrocodone because he starts itching like crazy.... Even with that said I was kinda like well maybe I feel a little something from time to time but NO NOT ME. Then as the years passed I started to notice it too... BLA BLA and finally just like everyone else, I was cut off of my opioid script around 2015 and have not since had the luxury of worrying about any of this.

But here's the thing. I have something going on right now that actually merited a doc writing me some steady hydrocodone for a week or so (NOT YOU CANT HAVE ANY LOL).... I am immediately noticing the itching sensation coming and going in various skin areas... I can also tell that its not a ghost or false neurological sensation as most would think. I AM 100% SURE of this because where ever these itching sensations occur, I can scratch lightly and catch something unknown but noteworthy under the fingernail THAT IS COMING OUT OF THE SKIN.... The texture and composition feeling like ranging anywhere from dead skin to hard like sand. As small as these particles are they are definitely responsible for the itch... In fact most times its identical to scratching your face and ripping the ass ends off of the demodex mites hanging out of your facial hair pores. Hell I may even try to save some larger finds and put them under a microscope. Still we are talking about itching anywhere on the body as it may crop up, but at the same time its appears more prevalent on the face and other hairy areas like forearms etc... Places where these are normally found... (yes I just showed you what is on your face - my bad:eek:)
1679774810285.jpeg Can ya believe these are normal and in everyone's face?!! o_O Now you know what fascial skin mask creams are for. Right?! And don't you find it funny that they never even market via this known fact!?. Shit all you would have to do is hold a seminar on demodex mites, tell them your cream removes these, and you would be rich over night. But thats another conspiracy for another day.

Now perhaps currently, whatever I am scraping off is normal mites, or simply comes from keratin, or some kind of sebaceous/ cholesterol buildup in the skin. And I am sure you can have mites like those in any hair pore. BUT for what reason is the opioid triggering this now notable physical sensation and urge to scratch...

And if there is any truth to any of this then wouldn't it be a good thing overall?. Or does the Govt. not want you to realize parasitic skin activity ensuing?

** Logically minded, the application of an opioid pain modulator should in fact numb the skin and you should be less likely to notice anything foreign.. Right?
But then again blood plasma opioid drug concentration levels will also cycle UP and DOWN; and is this effectively dynamically resetting skin CNS nerve BASELINES and this reset allowing for an opportunity to recognize foreign or overgrown sensations as the blood values go up and then back down? Succinctly, you go to numb as a new normal, and then when you come back down in between dosing, you now become aware of any abnormal skin activity that had otherwise built up, or snuck in under the radar via the cloaking action of TIME?

1. So then really is the hydrocodone simply somehow triggering a change in the physical touch sensations on the skin alerting you to scratch any benign, over-built but normal, or foreign object? Even if just normal skin mites?

2. Or is the hydrocodone FORCING FOREIGN LIVING BIOLOGICS out of the skin and why all of the sudden they come to your attention.?

IS THE OPIOID ACTION PHYSICALLY FORCING FOREIGN BODIES (Living or not) OUT OF THE SKIN AND VIA SOME UNKNOWN MECHANISM or simple 'side-action" of the effect of the meds from a purely physical standpoint??

IS the action of the opioid forcing a manual micro-muscular reaction as CONTRACTION in the skin pores via the same system that controls "chill bumps" per say. And is this forcing things out?

Did people have healthier or cleaner skin when using opioids?

And with further regard to the THREAD TITLE as it relates to "Anti-parasitic" action. What exactly might the opioid be doing deeper down and throughout the body in terms of PHYSICAL NEUROLOGICAL awareness, reaction, and physical response?

What effect on internal cellular growth, body system cancer cell awareness, even deep DNA level activity could the fluctuations of the MU receptor modulation be eliciting to a positive result? MU receptors will be where ever you can feel pain or pleasure obviously, but is this even a possibly unidentified action of Opioids not understood by science yet. I mean obviously there was little motivation to research opioids a single day beyond finding them. As once you are in pain and find they work its pretty much CASE CLOSED - I WANT THAT!!! Right? LOL

BUT WHAT POSITIVE net effect would we now register in the concept of "drug tolerance" and could you possibly see how the body's ability to adjust to new norms FORCING dose changes to maintain desired effects now synergizing to create an extension of this proposed positive effect on Opioid MU receptor agonism and modulation.!? As not only are normal metabolic changes occurring daily ranging from dietary influence to physical receptor stimulus, but you have this ever changing receptor level "requirement" to continue to keep the body affected by the drug mechanism. Thus enforcing further positive proposed neurological actions as hypothesized in this post...

Allz I am saying is that its very likely that minimally, opioid induced itching sensations are based on real stimulus and not simply "ghostly" in nature. And what is this mechanism precisely and what is really going on and at what levels throughout the body..?.!

I stop for now.
 
Opioids I've been avoiding for the longest time as I worry I'd become dependent on them. Even after a serious accident I've been very careful with their use and managed my pain with feedback units and such and not so much with the opioids.
 
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This is your brain on drugs.

Any questions?
No Sir, No questions at all.. It happens...

Well it has been a while since I rode... And I only get to make love to my bittersweet old honeypie for a very short period. SO I MUST MAKE THE MOST OUT OF HER WHILE SHE IS AROUND..!!!!!o_O:oops::rolleyes::) AHh babeee. Come to me.

You want to play the HYDRO-JEAPORDY GAME??? You know the one where you call me up and I'll shake the bottle for you to hear. If you can guess the remaining tab count you win them, if you miss you send me 100bux and I keep em...

You know that picture really used to be effective in 2nd grade school. Just the fact that they pulled it is a point of conspiracy within itself..
 
Opioids I've been avoiding for the longest time as I worry I'd become dependent on them. Even after a serious accident I've been very careful with their use and managed my pain with feedback units and such and not so much with the opioids.
Hydrocodone proven NOT physically addictive time over in studies. Oxycodone and some other stronger ones not so much. But shit they say the physical withdrawal time for hydroMORPHONE is only 5 days. Well I am here to tell ya that's a LOOOONNGG 5 days.

But "Lortab" I never was addicted to. But I did like having no pain...
 
No Sir, No questions at all.. It happens...

Well it has been a while since I rode... And I only get to make love to my bittersweet old honeypie for a very short period. SO I MUST MAKE THE MOST OUT OF HER WHILE SHE IS AROUND..!!!!!o_O:oops::rolleyes::) AHh babeee. Come to me.

You want to play the HYDRO-JEAPORDY GAME??? You know the one where you call me up and I'll shake the bottle for you to hear. If you can guess the remaining tab count you win them, if you miss you send me 100bux and I keep em...

You know that picture really used to be effective in 2nd grade school. Just the fact that they pulled it is a point of conspiracy within itself..
In English next time? I don’t speak FucktupDrugtupAddict
 
as someone who was hooked on dope for many years, my theory is that it fries the fuck out of your nerves and you don't even know when you're sick anymore. there are a few studies that lead us to believe it permanently alters your nervous system and ability to feel / tolerate pain and other stimuli. i certainly feel more sensitive in every regard- pain tolerance, heat/cold sensitivity, etc.

i could've been stabbed 3 times and had a giant tapeworm crawling out of my wiener..... i'd still be strung out playing xbox like nothing was wrong lmao....one thing i've noticed is that every tattoo i get hurts 10x worse. the longer i used drugs, the worse they started hurting. i'm at the point now where i feel like there's something wrong with me because i used to chill and listen to music during tattoos, but the last few have had me dripping in sweat about to lose my shit over the pain.

i also once did a "cold test" with the wifey and could only keep my hand in the ice cold water for about 15 seconds. she hadn't even started to feel pain yet and my skin felt like it was being ripped off. i like to think i'm not putting a placebo on myself and that there is legitimate long term altering of my nerves. maybe i'm just a pussy, who knows..

but that itching is no joke. then the rewarding pleasure of scratching an itchy spot was multiplied by 10000. endless cycle of itchy skin, orgasmic scratching, and repeating for hours.
 
as someone who was hooked on dope for many years, my theory is that it fries the fuck out of your nerves and you don't even know when you're sick anymore. there are a few studies that lead us to believe it permanently alters your nervous system and ability to feel / tolerate pain and other stimuli. i certainly feel more sensitive in every regard- pain tolerance, heat/cold sensitivity, etc.

i could've been stabbed 3 times and had a giant tapeworm crawling out of my wiener..... i'd still be strung out playing xbox like nothing was wrong lmao....one thing i've noticed is that every tattoo i get hurts 10x worse. the longer i used drugs, the worse they started hurting. i'm at the point now where i feel like there's something wrong with me because i used to chill and listen to music during tattoos, but the last few have had me dripping in sweat about to lose my shit over the pain.

i also once did a "cold test" with the wifey and could only keep my hand in the ice cold water for about 15 seconds. she hadn't even started to feel pain yet and my skin felt like it was being ripped off. i like to think i'm not putting a placebo on myself and that there is legitimate long term altering of my nerves. maybe i'm just a pussy, who knows..

but that itching is no joke. then the rewarding pleasure of scratching an itchy spot was multiplied by 10000. endless cycle of itchy skin, orgasmic scratching, and repeating for hours.
So are you saying you could not do the cold test after or before opioid issues? I remember when in my teens we used to play that game at the end of the day picking up the water coolers. I could never last more than a min. The guy that started the game was some kinds of super cold psycho that even Wm Hoff would envy. I mean he could go endlessly in 32 degree water. I think he enjoyed it.. LOL But I never had any experience with opioids before I was 32, and at 16 years old I could not take the cold water test. LOL

As far as opioids and quitting cold turkey after 10+ years around 2015, the biggest thing I noticed was the skin on my shoulders starting to get feeling again. I recall being amazed that even my skin has kinda numbed up so good that it took a month or two to notice it returning to normal.
 
In English next time? I don’t speak FucktupDrugtupAddict.
I know it hurts being left out.. I know... It will ease up soon. BREATTHHEEEE.. Easy big fella...

Are you kidding. I just need more and more now. I am already dreading the day I have to return to a meager life of pain and torment when my medical ticket runs out in a week or two... Shit I might even have to workout again.

Current conditions..:
1. Sunny skies cool, calm, clear - GORGEOUS...
2. Attitude adjusted to optimal vector.
3. Feeling young. Feeling good MORTIMOR...
4. I'm so virgin to hydrocodone right now I can achieve the ever-coveted state of NODDING from a 5mg tab with a simple beer backer.
5. Warm and cozy.. No longer hurts to lay in bed...

If feeling good is wrong, then I don't want to be right. Did that about cover it...?

On a serious note (because its really not even all that much fun to poke an imbecile)...
CLEARLY and SEEING YOU ONLY JOINED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR and already SHITTING OUT #191 worthless messages probably similar to these. We will go ahead and nickname you THE_POISON_PARROT@Meso.cnt.... I'm most certain you are an awesomely valuable member. If you open your mouth wide enough and give you your GPS coordinates, I'll give you a date and see if I can shit in you mouth from my G5. Top G's only need apply. After careful consideration, Your application REJECTED... Thank you for applying.

L............... O........................ L.....................................
 
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I know it hurts being left out.. I know... It will ease up soon. BREATTHHEEEE.. Easy big fella...

Are you kidding. I just need more and more now. I am already dreading the day I have to return to a meager life of pain and torment when my medical ticket runs out in a week or two... Shit I might even have to workout again.

Current conditions..:
1. Sunny skies cool, calm, clear - GORGEOUS...
2. Attitude adjusted to optimal vector.
3. Feeling young. Feeling good MORTIMOR...
4. I'm so virgin to hydrocodone right now I can achieve the ever-coveted state of NODDING from a 5mg tab with a simple beer backer.
5. Warm and cozy.. No longer hurts to lay in bed...

If feeling good is wrong, then I don't want to be right. Did that about cover it...?

On a serious note (because its really not even all that much fun to poke an imbecile)...
CLEARLY and SEEING YOU ONLY JOINED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR and already SHITTING OUT #191 worthless messages probably similar to these. We will go ahead and nickname you THE_POISON_PARROT@Meso.cnt.... I'm most certain you are an awesomely valuable member. If you open your mouth wide enough and give you your GPS coordinates, I'll give you a date and see if I can shit in you mouth from my G5. Top G's only need apply. After careful consideration, Your application REJECTED... Thank you for applying.

L............... O........................ L.....................................
192 worthless posts now vs your collection of long rambling pointless posts riddled with vocabulary mistakes. Nobody reads your shit regardless of join date. In a pathetic attempt to be relevant you create threads like this one. What’s this have to do with lifting, PEDs or even harm reduction.

Simply, I don’t care what you think of me. Not even a little bit. This is the internet. It’s not real. Enjoy your time.
 
All of you dont be ridiculous but some of you asked for it... Just Jolley banter on a Saturday night. IT IS THE INTERNET and MADE TO LEARN AND HAVE FUN. There's no hydro in my diet right now nor has there been in a while. @JackSkel PRECISELY what you just said was what I logged back on to let you down gently IT IS all bullshit.. It should not bother you. Don't try to understand my jango if you don't get it now then I suggest you pass in future. But I think you just explained you exactly do. I WILL SAY don't come around a board new-to-you swinging an imaginary cock around like you own it enuff to troll and heckle from the cheap seats. I am no minor adversary around here, but not looking to fight. But you did send me fishing to see how many might latch on. @T&H no biggie there either. Everyone can have there own opinion. Now what I stated about my views on Opioids as far as the qualities thereof, I meant. @T&H again (Still you are off topic hijacking but only because of Jackskel). Still, R you sure you read clearly enough to understand the quote and the relative difference in Hydro and Oxy was intended? I will offer you that I also found that once I addend Oxy versions in later down the road, the two kinda cross-bred in my brain. So take that for what its worth. On physical addiction regarding opioids, I am just citing study findings, you can take issue with those not me. I am not going to effort of pin them here as I have pinned so much shit throughout this site for so many years. But I recall that arena well enough... I was never a fan of the Oxy molecule personally. I did have a touch of fent in my line on a recent medical procedure which I think is also metabolized on the Oxy liver pathways, and it just reminded me of a perc and made me want to barf for the rest of the day. THERE IS A CLEAR DIFFERENCE DOCUMENTED. It just seems like night to day for me...

I WAS however serious about the initial post content regarding opioids and potential unknown modes of action. I appreciate the honest reply by @ChevoGuap. The thread is open to all who have honest input that can put their past addictions where they belong long enuff to involve themselves positively.

So there. No the fun loving BBC is not back on the loose.

RELAX... :)
 
I think millions of people, including myself, would disagree. The opioid abuse typically always starts with hydrocodone, and then go further into the stronger realm.

For you to actually believe that shows how much of a nut job you are. As evidenced by 99.99999999999% of your posts.
And its nice to know you read them all. I'll take that as the first compliment received in this thread ;):):)
 
itching is histamine reaction not worms(sound like a meth head), all opiates /opiods are addictive. lol they thought heroin was non addictive too and better alternative to opium/morphine.

I vow to stop stream of consciousness posts. yikes
 
itching is histamine reaction not worms(sound like a meth head), all opiates /opiods are addictive. lol they thought heroin was non addictive too and better alternative to opium/morphine.

I vow to stop stream of consciousness posts. yikes
Firstly NO- Heroin was brought on the scene medically by the NAZI regime BAYER and was presented as a cure for many things including amp etamine and cocaine addiction..

WHO ARE YOU? "stream of consciousness" and I am pretty sure I know.

FYI a histamine reaction is precisely what could come from "worms". And you are completely uninformed and ignorant as fuk if you think the TERM "PARASITE" refers to a simple WORM.. And amphetamines are probably THE LAST THING that can bring a histamine reaction.

And clearly you dont know what the fuck you even run your mouth about, because I just told you that an Itching sensation is not just a dave chappell crack/methhead character. IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WITH OPIOID USE, Part of the POINT of this thread is that I was conveying that I used to think otherwise TOO...

On your PROCLAIMATION of "All OPIOIDS ARE ADDICTIVE". Just STFU and poduce a study. They are all different in mechanism and action. You clearly just rabble about shit you have not researched or even paid enough attention you when its shuved in YORU FACE. This thread and your ignorant response is CASE IN POINT..

Asshole.. (and thats a "Term of endearment")
 
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Firstly NO- Heroin was brought on the scene medically by the NAZI regime BAYER and was presented as a cure for many things including amp etamine and cocaine addiction..

WHO ARE YOU? "stream of consciousness" and I am pretty sure I know.

FYI a histamine reaction is precisely what could come from "worms". And you are completely uninformed and ignorant as fuk if you think the TERM "PARASITE" refers to a simple WORM.. And amphetamines are probably THE LAST THING that can bring a histamine reaction.

And clearly you dont know what the fuck you even run your mouth about, because I just told you that an Itching sensation is not just a dave chappell crack/methhead character. IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WITH OPIOID USE, Part of the POINT of this thread is that I was conveying that I used to think otherwise TOO...

On your PROCLAIMATION of "All OPIOIDS ARE ADDICTIVE". Just STFU and poduce a study. They are all different in mechanism and action. You clearly just rabble about shit you have not researched or even paid enough attention you when its shuved in YORU FACE. This thread and your ignorant response is CASE IN POINT..

Asshole.. (and thats a "Term of endearment")
You’re the best. Lol. You must live a great life. Your level of happiness is conveyed in each one of your magnificent posts.
 
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