I'm starting to suspect that Opioids may be anti-parasitic in action... And that this is a SECRET..

[clearheaded]

Opiates, mast cells and histamine release - PubMed "long been known to cause histamine reaction" the mechanism is well known, not sure what ur going on about. this is why withdrawals include runny nose, sneezing symptoms like people may take ANTI histamines for when have these symptoms from allergies etc... not to mention forgetting heroin addicts keep scratching even after YEARS of treatment of ur purported "antiparrasitic" lol

The new non-addictive drug would be promoted as a cough suppressant and pain killer.
View: https://medium.com/discourse/heroin-was-originally-prescribed-as-a-cough-suppressant-b88192e7aecc


I encourage you to find a source that says opiates or opioids are non addictive lol... yes oxy were marketed as non addictive but I think there are millions that disagree hence BIG PAY OUTS..

dont be so angry my child. you should tell ur DR u figured out that itches are from parasites, see what he says lol.... again, sounds like meth addict talk. no judgement, addiction is a symptom of other things outside ur control. but meth addicts often think they have parasites too.

 

[BBC3]

Opiates, mast cells and histamine release - PubMed "long been known to cause histamine reaction" the mechanism is well known, not sure what ur going on about. this is why withdrawals include runny nose, sneezing symptoms like people may take ANTI histamines for when have these symptoms from allergies etc... not to mention forgetting heroin addicts keep scratching even after YEARS of treatment of ur purported "antiparrasitic" lol

The new non-addictive drug would be promoted as a cough suppressant and pain killer.
View: https://medium.com/discourse/heroin-was-originally-prescribed-as-a-cough-suppressant-b88192e7aecc


I encourage you to find a source that says opiates or opioids are non addictive lol... yes oxy were marketed as non addictive but I think there are millions that disagree hence BIG PAY OUTS..

dont be so angry my child. you should tell ur DR u figured out that itches are from parasites, see what he says lol.... again, sounds like meth addict talk. no judgement, addiction is a symptom of other things outside ur control. but meth addicts often think they have parasites too.

I will give you credit. I can't readily pull these studies up today. They have been erased from existence so it seems. Go figure. I am not going on a hunt for you that was not the premise of this thread. But no hydrocodone is proven time over to NOT be PHYSICALLY Addictive. I can testify to this TRUST ME. You can quit a 2 year habit with a 2 day cold sweat and systems normal again. MENTALLY, That's another thing and not to be trifled if you aint got the stones. And thats coming from someone that knows what its like to quit six months of IV dilaudid cold turkey and that's a serious problem i won't deny..

Did you know that TECHNICALLY/MEDICALLY, the physical withdrawal time for hydromorphone is stated by your coveted medical science community to be FIVE DAYS. Put that in your pipe.

My point of this thread is more on how opioids and the related CNS activity may involved with skin (or more..)related parasites. and more.

Simple evidence of correlation...

Evidence of morphine like substance and μ-opioid receptor expression in Toxacara canis (Nematoda: Ascaridae) - PMC

Toxocara canis (Nematoda: Ascaridae) is an intestinal nematode parasite of dogs, which can also cause disease in humans. Transmission to humans usually occurs because of direct contact with T. canis eggs present in soil contaminated with the feces ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I wont waste another keystroke for now..., Eat up
"Holmes and Zohar, 1990). Recently, it has been proposed that parasite-induced modifications of host behaviour may, in part, arise from alterations in opioid neuropeptide modulation of behaviour and physiology (Kavaliers and Podesta,"

Results of behavioural, immunological and pharmacological studies have provided evidence for altered opioid activity in host-parasite systems. Both the active production of immunosuppressive opioid and related neuropeptides by parasites and parasiticinduced augmentations and modifications of the endogenous opioid activity of the host are indicated (Kavaliers et al., 1984; Kavaliers and Podesta 1988; Colwell and Kavaliers, 1992a; Duvaux-Miret et al., 1992; Kavaliers and Colwell, in preparation). The present review briefly considers the relations between parasitism, opioid systems and host behaviour. Parasitism and opioid system

Parasitism, opioid systems and host behaviour

www.sciencedirect.com

These are basic searches you just motivated... I had not looked into anything generating my hypothesis...

 

[clearheaded]

lol yes most animals have nervous systems and brains so most drugs esp ones that are from plants will have an effect on pests, most drugs are designed to protect the plant from attack... this is MUCH different than taking 15mg of dilauidid and it be anti parasitic, not only that, but its also much different than the histamine reaction caused by opioids that u think are parasites. take some ivermectin or real anti parasitic drugs and see if u get the same itches lol easy test... but histamine reaction is well known, why u get runny nose and sneeze when come off opiates.. its like tobacco can be used to kill pests yet folks who chew tobacco aren't protected from parasites as the nicotine levels are not high enough.

also, yes hydrocodone is physically addictive or u would have 0 withdrawals. even dxm or kratom give physically withdraws ... I mean big pharma sold the idea it was not addictive and is the basis of the legal issues u hear about now as they KNEW it was addictive yet marketed it as not addictive.. guess u should get on there legal team to prove its not addictive lol..

heck even the weak opiates in opium (ie not morphine codeine) are addictive and have a special withdrawal.

why wouldn't they just give u hydrocodone to come off of harder opiates? wouldn't that be awesome eh instead of rx heroin or methadone etc for years.

 

[dacman24]

Hydrocodone proven NOT physically addictive time over in studies. Oxycodone and some other stronger ones not so much. But shit they say the physical withdrawal time for hydroMORPHONE is only 5 days. Well I am here to tell ya that's a LOOOONNGG 5 days.

But "Lortab" I never was addicted to. But I did like having no pain...

I also had an addiction. Also been addicted to Cocaine as well. Coming off Vicodin ABSOLUTELY was physical. Survivable but a real bitch. Same with Suboxone.

 

[goonr]

Sounds like classic upper psychosis combined with justification for taking opioids. Impressive. Stop the uppers or at least add some seroquel.

 

[BBC3]

lol yes most animals have nervous systems and brains so most drugs esp ones that are from plants will have an effect on pests, most drugs are designed to protect the plant from attack... this is MUCH different than taking 15mg of dilauidid and it be anti parasitic, not only that, but its also much different than the histamine reaction caused by opioids that u think are parasites. take some ivermectin or real anti parasitic drugs and see if u get the same itches lol easy test... but histamine reaction is well known, why u get runny nose and sneeze when come off opiates.. its like tobacco can be used to kill pests yet folks who chew tobacco aren't protected from parasites as the nicotine levels are not high enough.

also, yes hydrocodone is physically addictive or u would have 0 withdrawals. even dxm or kratom give physically withdraws ... I mean big pharma sold the idea it was not addictive and is the basis of the legal issues u hear about now as they KNEW it was addictive yet marketed it as not addictive.. guess u should get on there legal team to prove its not addictive lol..

heck even the weak opiates in opium (ie not morphine codeine) are addictive and have a special withdrawal.

why wouldn't they just give u hydrocodone to come off of harder opiates? wouldn't that be awesome eh instead of rx heroin or methadone etc for years.

15mgs of dilaudid..?!?!?!? Yes we need to party then.. Hint don't waste your time eating them LOL

 

[BBC3]

I also had an addiction. Also been addicted to Cocaine as well. Coming off Vicodin ABSOLUTELY was physical. Survivable but a real bitch. Same with Suboxone.

First off. Everyone knows that Cocaine is the cure for opioids. LOL. Second don't even dare to compare suboxone to hydrocodone (Vicodin)...

 

[BBC3]

Sounds like classic upper psychosis combined with justification for taking opioids. Impressive. Stop the uppers or at least add some seroquel.

I need no justification. Its no secret I love the stuff and operate very well on it. almost 15 years of Norco and not a single tab in almost 10 years. 10 years of pain and misery.. Hydrocodone - 3 days upset. Hydromorphone - wonder if you will go out back and blow your brains out. BIG DIFFERENCE.. And I've had them all..

 

[BBC3]

Opiates, mast cells and histamine release - PubMed "long been known to cause histamine reaction" the mechanism is well known, not sure what ur going on about. this is why withdrawals include runny nose, sneezing symptoms like people may take ANTI histamines for when have these symptoms from allergies etc... not to mention forgetting heroin addicts keep scratching even after YEARS of treatment of ur purported "antiparrasitic" lol

The new non-addictive drug would be promoted as a cough suppressant and pain killer.
View: https://medium.com/discourse/heroin-was-originally-prescribed-as-a-cough-suppressant-b88192e7aecc


I encourage you to find a source that says opiates or opioids are non addictive lol... yes oxy were marketed as non addictive but I think there are millions that disagree hence BIG PAY OUTS..

dont be so angry my child. you should tell ur DR u figured out that itches are from parasites, see what he says lol.... again, sounds like meth addict talk. no judgement, addiction is a symptom of other things outside ur control. but meth addicts often think they have parasites too.

So did you read BOTH of the articles I posted or just blabber you current paradigm? The first was making a related point.

As far as heroin as a cough suppressant I am sure it worked nicely. I got some TUSSIN a few times before all the prohibitive bullshit and I believe it has HYDROCODONE PARNATE in it. that was some strong ass shit and worked very well to shut down a cough. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THAT TEASPOON DOSAGE OR YOU WILL BE SORRY. LOL..

I wouldn't shrug off the parasite concept till you are sure you fully understand the definition "Parasite" and how it may related I WAS REFERRING FAR BEYOND SIMPLY DERMAL IN CONCEPT... My information usually comes from some pretty good sources. Even if just delivered by me as a poorly interpreted clue..

And that article about heroin as a cough suppressant is just another shitty article title from another one on TEN THOUSAND shitty wanna-be writer who generates 10 drama pieces a day hoping someone with toss him a scrap to eat. "Dangerous"?? Right.. But write everyone a weight loss drug that guarantees thyroid cancer, and poison the world with destructive RNA Code either by live fire and a purported false fix. Sometimes tried and tested is best. ITS ABOUT APPLICATION. Or you could just fall back on the new favorite "if the benefit outweighs the risk".. The risk of what? The patient living..?? LOL.. Anything is dangerous with enough of it... AND BTW I've seen THE KNICK too and according to those story tellers, BAYER HEROIN was the cure for Cocaine addiction.

 

[BBC3]

I also had an addiction. Also been addicted to Cocaine as well. Coming off Vicodin ABSOLUTELY was physical. Survivable but a real bitch. Same with Suboxone.

And not to discount you earlier.. You must have been eating enough vicodin for the tylenol to eat a hole in yer liver... Isn't that a classic 5/500 blend? I will say that I have heard that cocaine you just WANT real bad. Opioids are more of a need.. One hit off a crackpipe and you have never thought about any of those others every again.... But then you be dead soon...

 

[BBC3]

Sounds like classic upper psychosis combined with justification for taking opioids. Impressive. Stop the uppers or at least add some seroquel.

As far as amphetamines go.... THE CHANGES ARE PERMANENT...
As far as seroquel goes, once they figure out that stuff is an interdimensional time machine, they will get rid of it... Or the cost of the diabetes complications gets too high that is...

View: https://youtu.be/auLBLk4ibAk

 

[dacman24]

First off. Everyone knows that Cocaine is the cure for opioids. LOL. Second don't even dare to compare suboxone to hydrocodone (Vicodin)...

Bruh I literally lived the life. For a decade. When it comes to addiction and withdraws science is absolutely irrelevant. It is only personal since it is the person going through it.

 

[dacman24]

And not to discount you earlier.. You must have been eating enough vicodin for the tylenol to eat a hole in yer liver... Isn't that a classic 5/500 blend? I will say that I have heard that cocaine you just WANT real bad. Opioids are more of a need.. One hit off a crackpipe and you have never thought about any of those others every again.... But then you be dead soon...

I was taking 10/750 and yes horrible for the liver. And cocaine is quite easy to kick. Kinda like adderall. You want it and get tired for weeks until your body creates its own dopamine. Opiates a diff breed. Xanax & alcohol also although I can’t personally speak on those.

 

[BBC3]

I was taking 10/750 and yes horrible for the liver. And cocaine is quite easy to kick. Kinda like adderall. You want it and get tired for weeks until your body creates its own dopamine. Opiates a diff breed. Xanax & alcohol also although I can’t personally speak on those.

Xanax and alcohol are interesting animals IMHO. While there is nothing quite like the relief an occasional xanax brought me in my early 30's, especially running around bar hopping and drinking on it, IT JUST DOESNT DO IT FOR ME ANYMORE.. And I am kinda a funny addict in that once something fails at whatever measure I am willing to undertake, i just wont go to the next level. WHich I guess is the difference between an "Addict" and a recreational or "self-medicating. For example beer and four lokos dont do shit for me anymore but shield me ever so slightly from the insanity lamenting loomingly all around me in society. But you wont catch me at the state store buying booze for shit. I KNOW where that leads. Same with the xannies. I could probably eat 2-3mgs in a sitting and get that old feeling back.... STOP actually I could not //the only thing good about them was there novelty. 2-3 footballs would just make me a blob of shit. And while at the same time just 0.5mgs doesnt even make me tired. So I respect that too.

Those last two you mentioned are the two certain tickets to rehab due to their supposed withdrawal seizure risk. I can't seem to have one though on past quits. Im pretty sure you got to be on 10mgs/day xannie and at least a handle to merit any attention other than being pathetic.. I would NEVER insult my Doctor by going to rehab on a xanax ticket. Besides they would cut me off and its a great tool in the box... And seroquel sux and kills ya... lol...

Although I could use a vacation and you JUMP at a 90 day stent especially if I could finally get them to cover a club med type trip. Those people are kinda interesting some times.

Rant out read the second study I posted...