@Iron Vett , i totaly agree with you on this. Classic symptoms caused by increased androgens. What used to be walnut sized is working its way up to a tennis ball. I ran into same thing with Tren. Im lucky enough to be in a region that grows saw palmetto, harvest every year. I would chew several a day, bitter as hell and a pit, however it worked. I dried and ground some to keep around,their are natural oils lost during the refinement process at the big manufactures. The indigenous people here always had a jar in every household for medicinal use.