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You do strip the ester if using naoh .

From what I have read so far, you let it soak for only an hour in NaOH, which makes the estrodial water-soluble. But, why would that strip away the ester from the revolar, but not the synovex? I am just trying to understand why you ended up with tren base but not test base with the same conversion steps.

Btw, if NaOH strips the ester, is there something else that will work without striping the ester?
 
From what I have read naoh strips the ester , wether revlor or syno it strips it. There used to be its sold with a ' special chemical' that would remove the estradiol and not the ester. It was speculated that this chemical was naoh . I believe it probabaly was ( let sit for 1 hour deal) . If thats the case it proba sly gave you a combination of prop and TNE . that's how I've always done it with no problem . Every day shots though.

If youcan get component-th again then it has no estradoil , problem solved.

The are 2 other methods I've read about to keep the prop ester with syno. I think one way was to dissolve and add water 3 times. One had to do with freezing it. Not real sure but if you google it long enough you'll come across it.
 
Sweet, thanks for that answer greekgod! I'm finally getting a consensus on what is happening during the estrdiol extraction process. You get a combination of both prop and TNE. So, shouldn't be the same for the relavor? In the process you would have a mix of tren ace and base. Now the question is how much and is it worth doing. I certainly agree about getting component to eliminate the hassle.
 
The are 2 other methods I've read about to keep the prop ester with syno. I think one way was to dissolve and add water 3 times. One had to do with freezing it. Not real sure but if you google it long enough you'll come across it.

I just found a forum the other day that mentioned this method. Is it a crystallization method? If so, you drip 500cc of distilled water on it in the freezer for 45 mins, and you do that three times. Anyway, just trying to learn about all these interesting experiments.
 
Not real sure on the other methods , read them , never tried and I forget the specifics.

I believe the same would happen with revlor as syno. I did revlor 2x though and just used my TNE recipe . Both times I fucked it up. Couldn't get the hormone to suspend. I have since read that its very hard to suspend tren no ester , if that's true it may work with acorrect recipe , but I don't know it and I won't try it again , to expensive to fail.
 
I may buy some syno and component th soon. I was hoping to find a good ugl , but its so damn risky. I've been watching MFL , but just not sure yet.

You don't know if your shits legit , underdosed , or sterile. Same worries with a powder supplier , other than sterile. At least with pellets you know exactly what you have.
 
Not real sure on the other methods , read them , never tried and I forget the specifics.

I believe the same would happen with revlor as syno. I did revlor 2x though and just used my TNE recipe . Both times I fucked it up. Couldn't get the hormone to suspend. I have since read that its very hard to suspend tren no ester , if that's true it may work with acorrect recipe , but I don't know it and I won't try it again , to expensive to fail.

That suck that it didn't suspend. One guy on another forum claims to have it down; but I am skeptical because I have read about more failures than success stories so far, even people doing his method. I'm still on the look out for someone that has been able to not remove the ace from the pellets. I know it's beyond me to figure it out.
Once again, thanks for your reply.
 
When I see OP confirm he has received product I'd be surprised. People , its not been produced in years . If ya got some , its 3 yrs old.

Well considering its been shipped and should be in my hands but Canada Post lost my fucking shit. 3 years old does not mean shit. Expiration dates on medications are nonsense.
 
I wish someone could enlighten me on this. If revalor is the same process as synovex for estradiol removal, then why does removing the estradiol in revolar leave you with just the base but this doesn't happen with the synovex?

It does happen with the synovex. Adding a base will strip an ester by a process called hydrolysis. Which would leave you with estradiol base and benzoic acid, testosterone base and propionic acid. The "Magic Solution" they speak of is false/
 
Well considering its been shipped and should be in my hands but Canada Post lost my fucking shit. 3 years old does not mean shit. Expiration dates on medications are nonsense.

Sorry to hear that they lost your package. Is there anything you can do?
 
Sorry to hear that they lost your package. Is there anything you can do?

Nothing, Allivet has to be the one to file the claim but they refuse to. So DON'T ORDER FROM ALLIVET. They refused to even look at the canadian post website to file a claim. They told me I was screwed. Actual cunts words. Can you believe that? Worst customer service that some UG Labs!!
 
Did you use a credit card? You can dispute the charge.

That crossed my mind as well. I've done it twice and worked out well. My bank refunded me the money, and then they took over dealing with the company. That happened in the USA and Australia-so, I am thinking it should be the same for Canada. I hope it works out for you as well.
 
That crossed my mind as well. I've done it twice and worked out well. My bank refunded me the money, and then they took over dealing with the company. That happened in the USA and Australia-so, I am thinking it should be the same for Canada. I hope it works out for you as well.

I used credit through paypal? But there is tracking info and shit, that says it arrived. Just makes me mad because I have been wanting to do this for so long.
 
I was all about the Fina conversions a ways back. The price was good an you knew you ended up with what you wanted. Now a days I do not see much reason in the conversions. The cost over powder makes it not valuable. I do like the experience of doing the conversion though.
 
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