Injection site infection-hospitalised

it all works. just get 70%alc swabs, doesnt matter if cotton, individually packaged disposables, or soaked paper wipes
I already use the individually packed ones. I'm not the OP. Was just thinking a pack of cotton you keep touching is less sterile, but I supposed that's irrelevant since the alcohol kills any issues anyway.
 
This post had me so paranoid and tripped my OCD that badly I literally threw out two drawn syringes before finally being happy with the 3rd one.

I think I swabbed the area 7 times. Fuck.
 
Most likely your cruddy practice of not using alcohol to sterilize or maybe your gear got contaminated from not swabbing the top with alcohol. Probably a combo who knows. If your worried about the gear send off a sealed vial to Jano for sterility I did with some and both came back positive for fungus/mold.
 
If you have already injected from that vial and nothing happened then its not the gear. The infection came from outside the body and vial. You wont be able to pinpoint it. I have been injecting without using alcohol to wipe the vials or my skin for 15+ years...not a single infection. Thats not saying it cant happen. Infections in hospitals that sterilize everything still happen and happen alot. All you can do moving forward is do your best to keep things sterile.

Funny, I've also been injecting 15+ years, can't think of the last time I used an alcohol wipe.
 
Definitely not a Looksmaxxer. Look he says he's been pinning roids for a year. That's typical millenial/Gen X roidcel behaviour. We run short cycles, we are not trying to become ugly, bloated and bald
With the way your crowd uses peds I think you're guaranteed to become ugly, bloated and bald.

Ugly = blasting high iu gh from teens onwards, guaranteed acromegaly
Bald = blasting high androgens from teens onwards
Bloated = shitty diets and dumb asf stacks (literally never seen a good stack design from you incels)

Good luck retard
 
This post had me so paranoid and tripped my OCD that badly I literally threw out two drawn syringes before finally being happy with the 3rd one.

I think I swabbed the area 7 times. Fuck.
bro lol. was thinking of pre filling syringes for the week but i got some OCD after this post too
 
Funny, I've also been injecting 15+ years, can't think of the last time I used an alcohol wipe.
Geez if you can't do basic antibacterial cleanliness before you inject with needles I can imagine how you live , do you brush your teeth lol , wiping before injection with alcohol is like basic injection practices 101 , I guess you're lucky you haven't gotten an infection, you better thank God or whoever you believe in ..
 
I want to share the story of Staphylococcus epidermidis.

This species is a bro. It's all over the skin, like the name suggests. It prevents colonization by other organisms, helps maintain healthy skin chemistry, and even trains the human immune response. Like almost all microbes that have some health effect, most strains are neutral (or beneficial) while a tiny minority has the potential to cause problems. In fact, it's so benign that people with central venous catheters or PICC lines frequently have asymptomatic bacteremia -- a silent Staph epi population in the blood that's not doing a darn bit of harm.

Still, it's the second leading cause of injection site infections. Why?

There's a fuckton of it, and it's everywhere. Ten thousand to ten million cells per square cm, all over your skin. If you wash and swab with alcohol or iodine, you drop the concentration but it's never zero. All of us here have introduced this into organisms IM or subq a gang of times, but the statistics are on our side. They're on our side unless you routinely make bad bets, that is.

The upshot: you cannot avoid introducing bacteria to yourself, you can only stack the deck in your favor. Wash, swab, keep needles covered before use, use clean ones, etc. This is devastatingly easy to do and being this fucking lazy can kill you.

This isn't even harm reduction 101, it's that class they make kids take the summer before 101 because they get word from the last teacher that you drool a lot.
 
I want to share the story of Staphylococcus epidermidis.

This species is a bro. It's all over the skin, like the name suggests. It prevents colonization by other organisms, helps maintain healthy skin chemistry, and even trains the human immune response. Like almost all microbes that have some health effect, most strains are neutral (or beneficial) while a tiny minority has the potential to cause problems. In fact, it's so benign that people with central venous catheters or PICC lines frequently have asymptomatic bacteremia -- a silent Staph epi population in the blood that's not doing a darn bit of harm.

Still, it's the second leading cause of injection site infections. Why?

There's a fuckton of it, and it's everywhere. Ten thousand to ten million cells per square cm, all over your skin. If you wash and swab with alcohol or iodine, you drop the concentration but it's never zero. All of us here have introduced this into organisms IM or subq a gang of times, but the statistics are on our side. They're on our side unless you routinely make bad bets, that is.

The upshot: you cannot avoid introducing bacteria to yourself, you can only stack the deck in your favor. Wash, swab, keep needles covered before use, use clean ones, etc. This is devastatingly easy to do and being this fucking lazy can kill you.

This isn't even harm reduction 101, it's that class they make kids take the summer before 101 because they get word from the last teacher that you drool a lot.
Very well put lol basically clean yourself before you poke yourself retards
 
I agree with the majority; clean the stopper and the injection site. If it was me, when I was in the hospital I would have told them what you explained here and asked for their educated opinions--especially nurses because they do that kind of stuff all the time and are more likely to help without being preachy.
 
I got this ınfection also where my glute got abcess and got bigger and bigger. Tried antibiotics any everything but the solution was to do drainage..
 
Geez, these people and their abscesses , don't they know how to inject or how to wipe with an alcohol swab or basic cleanliness? Let me guess it's the gear right, GTFOH with that chit
 
It is not necessary to swab the injection site so long as it is visibly clean.

It is not possible for bacteria on the surface of the skin to enter under the skin from an injection using a needle. You can swab the injection site if you want, but it does not accomplish anything.

In theory, alcohol is supposed to disinfect the skin so that the needle doesn’t introduce bacteria under the skin and cause an infection to develop. But there is no evidence that bacteria enter the skin in this way or that this causes infection. In fact, studies from as early as the 1960’s did not show a benefit of using alcohol before injections. For this reason, the World Health Organization (WHO) advises against using alcohol routinely prior to vaccination Globally it is now common practice, with billions of vaccines administered, and no increases in reported skin infections.

Source - Royal Society of Canada

More sources for those that are skeptical https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/injecting/ CTRL+F for "Multiple trials were conducted and there was no difference in the infection rate. Swabbing has gone the way of aspirating your pins." to read the sources.
 
It is not necessary to swab the injection site so long as it is visibly clean.

It is not possible for bacteria to enter the skin from an injection using a needle. You can swab the injection site if you want, but it does not accomplish anything.



Source - Royal Society of Canada

More sources for those that are skeptical https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/injecting/ CTRL+F for "Multiple trials were conducted and there was no difference in the infection rate. Swabbing has gone the way of aspirating your pins." to read the sources.
Who TF listens to the Canadians on anything? Why wouldn’t you swab an injection site? Every single nurse that’s ever given me an injection of any kind swabs with an alcohol pad first.
 
It is not necessary to swab the injection site so long as it is visibly clean.

It is not possible for bacteria on the surface of the skin to enter under the skin from an injection using a needle. You can swab the injection site if you want, but it does not accomplish anything.



Source - Royal Society of Canada

More sources for those that are skeptical https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/injecting/ CTRL+F for "Multiple trials were conducted and there was no difference in the infection rate. Swabbing has gone the way of aspirating your pins." to read the sources.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen or read for someone on a harm reduction site to actually post something like this, the level of ignorance is beyond me people read something and then they think that is the gold standard, every hospital every nurse, every doctor wipes with an alcohol swab before an injection for a freaking reason,
 
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