inkandmuscle VERY FIRST CYCLE!

pinned 1ml test 0.5ml deca ths morning.

definately getting alot smoother with the pinning process

actualy kinda look foward to it now:eek::eek:
is that normal?? lol

feelin the tbol for sure, the test somewhat
 
Pretty hard shutdown from deca, kinda risky to run it first cycle.
Do you think you won't get adequate gains from just test e?
 
Pretty hard shutdown from deca, kinda risky to run it first cycle.
Do you think you won't get adequate gains from just test e?
define "adequate"
and when you do remember, im 21 and bulletproof!!

lol on a serious note I read up a good amount on it and just decided to toss it in to get as much as possible out of this run.. I'm running it at a 2:1 test to deca ratio and ive got dostinex on hand incase of prolactin sides
 
@Burrr also just to update you on the cycle change, im gonna run it 12 weeks pct 3 weeks after last pin of E and deca, but im gonna run prop from the week 12 to week 15 starting pct week 16
 
Running a cycle under 25 is risky in regard to the potential long term impact on the HPTA, but adding a 19-nor just leads to an even harder shut down.
One of the reasons a first cycle is typically just test e or c is to see how your hormones rebound from PCT.
You can see great gains, with far less risk by running just the test.
You might be setting yourself up for a lifetime of boner pills.
 
Running a cycle under 25 is risky in regard to the potential long term impact on the HPTA, but adding a 19-nor just leads to an even harder shut down.
One of the reasons a first cycle is typically just test e or c is to see how your hormones rebound from PCT.
You can see great gains, with far less risk by running just the test.
You might be setting yourself up for a lifetime of boner pills.
well I can only pray for the best I guess

appreciate your concern though
foreal burrr..
 
Hit chest, delts, tris like nobody's business today.. suprised myself on weighted dips, straped on 65lbs and eaily busted out sets of 10.. loving this tbol

starting to notice some water retention from the test.. not out of control no moonface or anything lol but im gonna up the adex to .5 eod
 
Running a cycle under 25 is risky in regard to the potential long term impact on the HPTA, but adding a 19-nor just leads to an even harder shut down.
One of the reasons a first cycle is typically just test e or c is to see how your hormones rebound from PCT.
You can see great gains, with far less risk by running just the test.
You might be setting yourself up for a lifetime of boner pills.




this is just plain over reacting. I started when I was 18, all I ever did until I was 30 was Deca, EQ, and Tren. never once had dick issues. the pamphlet I was given by the Doctor about Deca never mentioned Deca dick. Deca dick was not a side effect back in the late 80's, some how it becomes a side effect once we get into the 21st century. all you school girls need to stop worrying about shit that isn't there. your mind can fuck you up all by its self. you start to think it and the next thing you know you are believing it.
 
Any body have experience with rapid increase in appetite??
realy havent noticed any "kick" from the test yet but its only day 10, I did frontload 1000mg first wk and the tbol is in full stride for sure now..
Everyday my appetite is increasing.. I'm up to 221.2 and I woke in the middle of the night fucking starving, had to make a cup of oatmeal with some whey so I could go back to sleep,
Is this a sign of test kicking in
or maybe the tbol??
anybody wanna shed a light for me?
 
Any body have experience with rapid increase in appetite??
realy havent noticed any "kick" from the test yet but its only day 10, I did frontload 1000mg first wk and the tbol is in full stride for sure now..
Everyday my appetite is increasing.. I'm up to 221.2 and I woke in the middle of the night fucking starving, had to make a cup of oatmeal with some whey so I could go back to sleep,
Is this a sign of test kicking in
or maybe the tbol??
anybody wanna shed a light for me?





it is your body telling you that you need more food. are you trying to do a clean bulk? if so you are not eating enough.
 
it is your body telling you that you need more food. are you trying to do a clean bulk? if so you are not eating enough.
I stopped counting calories and I eat a TON, theres a pic in this log of the way I prep and carry food with me on work days if you look on the first or second page... My bulk is "clean" but only in the sense of the food sources I choose, since my first pin ive been eating to satiety the only thing I even remotely count is protien which comes it at atleast 300-350g/day... ive never used gear before and im a pretty big guy 6ft2 when I started I was 213-215 that was only 10 days ago and now im already at 220+

im not concerned with the weight gain but the sudden increase in appetite is something ive never experienced before just curious if anyone has had similar experiences especialy before the test is in full swing cause I hear even with a frontload that takes 3weeks minimum
 
I stopped counting calories and I eat a TON, theres a pic in this log of the way I prep and carry food with me on work days if you look on the first or second page... My bulk is "clean" but only in the sense of the food sources I choose, since my first pin ive been eating to satiety the only thing I even remotely count is protien which comes it at atleast 300-350g/day... ive never used gear before and im a pretty big guy 6ft2 when I started I was 213-215 that was only 10 days ago and now im already at 220+

im not concerned with the weight gain but the sudden increase in appetite is something ive never experienced before just curious if anyone has had similar experiences especialy before the test is in full swing cause I hear even with a frontload that takes 3weeks minimum



AAS start to work as soon as you inject them. I don't buy into it takes three weeks for anything to work no matter the ester. my first cycle I gained 25lbs solid muscle on a 6 week cycle of Deca only. your appetite will slow the bigger you get. at your height you can easily carry 260lbs to 300lbs+. you have a long ways to go before you start to reach your genetic limits. enjoy the ride.


I would increase your protein to 430g a day.
 
dayyumm thats alot of protien :eek::eek::eek::eek:
ill give it a whack though...
ive noticed im holding a bit of water but despite all l the food im eating I actualy feel like im looking a bit leaner or more "shaped up" my shoulders are starting to "pop" only 10 days in and despit the fact that im getting heavier I find bodyweight exercises are getting easier.. at 213 I was doing weighted dip with 1 plate for 7-8 reps, yesterday at 220lbs I strapped on 65lbs and smashed 4 sets of 10 on the weighted dips like it wasnt shit:D
 
dayyumm thats alot of protien :eek::eek::eek::eek:
ill give it a whack though...
ive noticed im holding a bit of water but despite all l the food im eating I actualy feel like im looking a bit leaner or more "shaped up" my shoulders are starting to "pop" only 10 days in and despit the fact that im getting heavier I find bodyweight exercises are getting easier.. at 213 I was doing weighted dip with 1 plate for 7-8 reps, yesterday at 220lbs I strapped on 65lbs and smashed 4 sets of 10 on the weighted dips like it wasnt shit:D




that is great, but remember to leave your ego at the door or you will get hurt. do not force reps or struggle to long with a rep. research negatives they work great and actually is the best way muscle is built or most of your muscle is built with the negative movement.
 
that is great, but remember to leave your ego at the door or you will get hurt. do not force reps or struggle to long with a rep. research negatives they work great and actually is the best way muscle is built or most of your muscle is built with the negative movement.
Im already learning this the hard way lol since the tbol kicked in and ive been goin to town in the gym ive developed a pain in my serratus anterior any time I lift my arm or put any strain on it, not like its torn but im gonna slow it down a bit and let it recover
 

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