Insane quad PIP - best remedies?

[2023rebuild]

I had CRAZY Quad pip last week. it took a literal week to subside (and my left leg is still slightly fatter looking than my right leg). I did Vastus Lateralis too. I could barely walk. Never again.

I knew it was going to be bad because it was already tender the next day. by day two it was red and swollen. by day three my knee started to look bigger. I basically spent the weekend with my leg elevated and tried to gentle "roll" the muscle towards my groin (lymph location) starting on day 4. Used a hot tub and heating pad and occasionally an ice pack. It was miserable.

The reason I searched "PIP" in the first place (is wild that the first result I saw was quad pip though) is this: Has anyone felt like PIP has gotten worse with age? when I was younger I never had a problem. It was lan issue maybe 3 or 4 times that I can recall and even then it wasn't bad. As I have gotten older (am 40) its been becoming an increasing issue. Even my TRT perscribed test cyp is at risk of blowing up my ass cheek. That is actually why I was going for the VL, I was looking to give my glutes a rest. I had been using a 1 inch 23g needle for TRT test cyp for several years now as that is what was given to me by my doc. I would say that 1 our of 4 injections would result in decent swelling and I seem to have some lumps back there that dont ever quite go away.

but even using insulin needles for prop and NPP (something I just started a few weeks ago) has been giving me PIP of varying intensity in the delts.

I have since moved to 1.5 inch 25g for the larger volume stuff (Glute and VG). Still this never used to be an issue but it now is across different suppliers and compounds. wondering if anyone else has experienced a change with age.

 

[niqTM]

I have read that theragun increases micro tearing which increases the pip like whoa. I can say from personal experience that I agree with what I have read. I would not do this

100% agree.

 

[niqTM]

I had CRAZY Quad pip last week. it took a literal week to subside (and my left leg is still slightly fatter looking than my right leg). I did Vastus Lateralis too. I could barely walk. Never again.

I knew it was going to be bad because it was already tender the next day. by day two it was red and swollen. by day three my knee started to look bigger. I basically spent the weekend with my leg elevated and tried to gentle "roll" the muscle towards my groin (lymph location) starting on day 4. Used a hot tub and heating pad and occasionally an ice pack. It was miserable.

The reason I searched "PIP" in the first place (is wild that the first result I saw was quad pip though) is this: Has anyone felt like PIP has gotten worse with age? when I was younger I never had a problem. It was lan issue maybe 3 or 4 times that I can recall and even then it wasn't bad. As I have gotten older (am 40) its been becoming an increasing issue. Even my TRT perscribed test cyp is at risk of blowing up my ass cheek. That is actually why I was going for the VL, I was looking to give my glutes a rest. I had been using a 1 inch 23g needle for TRT test cyp for several years now as that is what was given to me by my doc. I would say that 1 our of 4 injections would result in decent swelling and I seem to have some lumps back there that dont ever quite go away.

but even using insulin needles for prop and NPP (something I just started a few weeks ago) has been giving me PIP of varying intensity in the delts.

I have since moved to 1.5 inch 25g for the larger volume stuff (Glute and VG). Still this never used to be an issue but it now is across different suppliers and compounds. wondering if anyone else has experienced a change with age.

I know PIP is worse for me when I am over-reached or my body is worn down/inflammed already and that correlates to your experience. Harder to recover from training as we get older and that leads to us being more worn out.

 

[Flatriggerman]

I've had luck with warming the oil in a hot water bath. Inject slow. Hot tap water is enough. Let is soak 5-10 mins and change out the water if needed. Candle warmer or baby wipe warmer works too.

 

[4Drago]

- never inject quads again... too many other options as previously stated
- draw with one needle, change to new needle for injection. Don't dart in the needle... steady wins the race
- warm up the syringe over hot water in the sink before injection
- once needle is in inject slowly. Wait a few seconds before you pull needle out.
- rotate injection sights, you should use at least 6-8 different locations. Vg, lats (upper, mid, lower), 3 heads of the delt (front, mid, rear), chest ( 2 inches above nipple lower mid and upper), traps, and others.
- use common sense. If your muscle isn't big enough don't push in 3cc unless you already know you can handle it. For example don't put in more than 1 1/2-2cc in the front delt unless they are huge.

 

[erk253]

Honestly today is leg day for me and I still have this insane quad PIP… no idea how I will be able to workout it, but I’ll try..

I’m going through the same issue pinned quads also for the first time. My quads are also very sore. I’m going to attempt to work out my legs today. I’m going to warm up the quads on my exercise bike first and go for it.