insane strenght gains

[prop]

whats the best cycle for insane strenght gains regardless of weight gain?

 

[einstein1905]

whats the best cycle for insane strenght gains regardless of weight gain?

test/tren + food. Var is good too, but test/tren alone is very cost-efficient.

Not a bad idea to add GH to a cycle where big % increase in lifts will be seen to strengthen tendons/ligaments to allow for safe strength increases

 

[mr.big]

test/tren + food. Var is good too, but test/tren alone is very cost-efficient.

Not a bad idea to add GH to a cycle where big % increase in lifts will be seen to strengthen tendons/ligaments to allow for safe strength increases

Can't agree more than what you said Einstein. Absolutely!

Anadrol also gives great stenghth gains but I would say my best overall
have been with test/tren. unbelievable the first time I stacked the two.

One thing about tren, I love it for what it's worth but hate the sides!
I haven't used it for 2 years now just because I can't stand the sides
but may get the courage back up to use it again. It also messed with my
HPTA pretty badly and caused me to go into hypoglycemia and get tremendous
sweats and the shakes if I didn't adjust my carbs and diet very closely. Have you any info on that regarding Tren?

Anyone else experienced hypo and very bad sweats off Tren? I haven't used it again because I had a few scares while on it and it's also harsh on the harline
although I'm not predisposed to hairlose but still I had 2 areas on my scalp that
balded out for quite some time after discontinuance. The bald spots finally went
away but it took a long time.

 

[einstein1905]

Can't agree more than what you said Einstein. Absolutely!

Anadrol also gives great stenghth gains but I would say my best overall
have been with test/tren. unbelievable the first time I stacked the two.

One thing about tren, I love it for what it's worth but hate the sides!
I haven't used it for 2 years now just because I can't stand the sides
but may get the courage back up to use it again. It also messed with my
HPTA pretty badly and caused me to go into hypoglycemia and get tremendous
sweats and the shakes if I didn't adjust my carbs and diet very closely. Have you any info on that regarding Tren?

Anyone else experienced hypo and very bad sweats off Tren? I haven't used it again because I had a few scares while on it and it's also harsh on the harline
although I'm not predisposed to hairlose but still I had 2 areas on my scalp that
balded out for quite some time after discontinuance. The bald spots finally went
away but it took a long time.

Tren E has allowed me to keep plasma levels much more even that with acetate, and the sides are much reduced (2 tren E cycles so far). tren increases lipolysis, and you will sweat more on it. if your carbs are low in the first place, then tren speeding up your metabilic rate will deplete blood glucose faster, so you need to adjust for that

 

[necro]

I am currently on a cycle of Test Prop 100mg/Tren Acetate 100mg ED and am experiencing the night sweats and hypoglycemia. The night sweats get so bad that I have my AC turned down to 60, fans on me, only a sheet, and I still wake up in the middle of the night and have to change my wet clothes and lay a towel on the bed to get back to sleep! As for the hypo, I have been eating every 2.5-3 hours, if I miss by 15min or more I start shaking and seeing black spots, feel like I'm going to pass out; been carrying a Met-Rx bar with me wherever I go just to make sure nothing bad happens...I actually went to see a doc yesterday to have bloodwork done just to make sure I am not diabetic! Glad to hear the Tren is affecting more than just me in this way...take care bros...

Also, I was shaking when the nurse was trying to take my pulse so the doc chalked that up as anxiety and but me on Wellbutrin XL and Ativan...I hope neither of these mess with my appetite or training or I will be one pissed off mofo! The doc also suggested that I go see a counselor for anger management...damn Tren

NECRO

 

[bronco944]

test/tren + food. Var is good too, but test/tren alone is very cost-efficient.

Not a bad idea to add GH to a cycle where big % increase in lifts will be seen to strengthen tendons/ligaments to allow for safe strength increases

ive heard mixed reports on the hgh. we all know it helps regrow tendons and connective tissue. but ive seen studies where they tested the strength of this regrown tissue and it turned out to be much more prone to injury. aparently the tissues grown with gh being present were less pliable and more brittle. if you think about it, look at all teh pro's sustaining injury now. like jean peire fux shering off both quads on a squat hes done comfortably many times before. thers no way to know if these injuries are from weekend tendons and connective tissue from gh use or from the higher weights these people are lifting now, but it seems kinda like a plausable explanation. not to mention unless hes allready on gh, then his strength is gonna sky rocket when he starts that cycle, long before the gh will have any effect on his tendons or ligaments.

 

[guitarded]

My only advice is be careful what you wish for. I think a better goal would be to try and make some good strength /size gains without injury. Everyone's body is different, but I made large stregth gains too quickly on my first cycle. It has been a battle to keep my connective tissues pain-free.
If you have a ton of dough, then throw the gh in the mix, otherwise, I'd suggest you let your gains be in higher reps before you slap a ton of weight on there and go for an all out set of 3 reps etc.

cheers

 

[thick]

Really? All of I read and seen posted is just the opposite. From what I read Test caused weaker tissue formation. Non elastic. Hulk used to post links to this. The new tissue was brittle and more injury prone where as EQ, DECA, and GH increased collagen synthesis and led to healthier tissue. My personal opinion is that without GH, Barry Bonds would be retired due to his previous health history. Please post any links you have. I might still have some here. I will check for them

ive heard mixed reports on the hgh. we all know it helps regrow tendons and connective tissue. but ive seen studies where they tested the strength of this regrown tissue and it turned out to be much more prone to injury. aparently the tissues grown with gh being present were less pliable and more brittle. if you think about it, look at all teh pro's sustaining injury now. like jean peire fux shering off both quads on a squat hes done comfortably many times before. thers no way to know if these injuries are from weekend tendons and connective tissue from gh use or from the higher weights these people are lifting now, but it seems kinda like a plausable explanation. not to mention unless hes allready on gh, then his strength is gonna sky rocket when he starts that cycle, long before the gh will have any effect on his tendons or ligaments.

 

[athlete0185]

on prop/tren right now and the strength gains are no joke. its intense. barely any side effects to speak of other than increased aggression and impatience, as well as the sweats. havent shed any hair from what i can tell so thats a good thing.

 

[4545]

Have to agree Prop and tren are awesome. Throw some Halo in there and you have one hell of a strength cycle.

 

[Geebee52]

on prop/tren right now and the strength gains are no joke. its intense. barely any side effects to speak of other than increased aggression and impatience, as well as the sweats. havent shed any hair from what i can tell so thats a good thing.

athlete 0185 what doses do you get, when did you start, is it your first prop/tren cycle (sorry if you said it already), what's your bodyweight, how many calories are your getting each day, what's your training
I'm asking you all thiese questions because I'll start my 3rd prop/tren cycle in 10 days (I'm still hesitating, I may use a 2nd cypio/dia than deca-durabolin cycle).
Do you get spotinjections ? I got bigger shoulders with prop/tren (one day left shoulder, the other day right shoulder).
To prevent night sweats (I got them first), I'm just eating a little bit before going to bed.

 

[bronco944]

Really? All of I read and seen posted is just the opposite. From what I read Test caused weaker tissue formation. Non elastic. Hulk used to post links to this. The new tissue was brittle and more injury prone where as EQ, DECA, and GH increased collagen synthesis and led to healthier tissue. My personal opinion is that without GH, Barry Bonds would be retired due to his previous health history. Please post any links you have. I might still have some here. I will check for them

im possitive i read this but dont have a link. try searching at steroidology, i think thats where itw sa previously posted, about a year or so ago.

 

[Neodavid]

My Tren E should be here soon, was thinking 250 tren and 250 sust mix... anyone think it should be 500 tren and 250 sust, or have some other suggestion?

gotta order the B yet to avoid prolactin gyno.

I hear tren is really good for preventing fat gains too. This will be my 3rd cycle, the others being test only (enanthate, and then sust for the 2nd). Really didn't grow on the 2nd cycle, figure tren e might help this time.

test/tren + food. Var is good too, but test/tren alone is very cost-efficient.

Not a bad idea to add GH to a cycle where big % increase in lifts will be seen to strengthen tendons/ligaments to allow for safe strength increases

 

[mrpg13]

My Tren E should be here soon, was thinking 250 tren and 250 sust mix... anyone think it should be 500 tren and 250 sust, or have some other suggestion?

gotta order the B yet to avoid prolactin gyno.

I hear tren is really good for preventing fat gains too. This will be my 3rd cycle, the others being test only (enanthate, and then sust for the 2nd). Really didn't grow on the 2nd cycle, figure tren e might help this time.

Hey bro, Imnot sure about your stats, but. Right now im on TrenE @500mg/wk, and TestE @600mg/wk. Im making great strength, and size gains so far. Im not getting the night sweats like I dod with Tren acetate either, but I do have a little trouble sleeping. imo keep the Test a little higher than the Tren. Some people may argue this, but it works better for me.

 

[athlete0185]

athlete 0185 what doses do you get, when did you start, is it your first prop/tren cycle (sorry if you said it already), what's your bodyweight, how many calories are your getting each day, what's your training
I'm asking you all thiese questions because I'll start my 3rd prop/tren cycle in 10 days (I'm still hesitating, I may use a 2nd cypio/dia than deca-durabolin cycle).
Do you get spotinjections ? I got bigger shoulders with prop/tren (one day left shoulder, the other day right shoulder).
To prevent night sweats (I got them first), I'm just eating a little bit before going to bed.

ill try and answer as many as these as possible. this is my first prop/tren cycle and 2nd cycle overall. the dosages are 100 mg prop/75 mg tren ED. i am 5'9 185 about 10% bf. calories are varied each day, im not being extremly strict just trying to eat clean. the training is the 5x5 program.

ran tren e before and the results just werent the same. in my opinion the acetate is way better.

 

[Neodavid]

Rats, I'll need more sust then... only have 15ml.


Thanks for the advice.

Hey bro, Imnot sure about your stats, but. Right now im on TrenE @500mg/wk, and TestE @600mg/wk. Im making great strength, and size gains so far. Im not getting the night sweats like I dod with Tren acetate either, but I do have a little trouble sleeping. imo keep the Test a little higher than the Tren. Some people may argue this, but it works better for me.

 

[Frankenstud]

Also, I was shaking when the nurse was trying to take my pulse so the doc chalked that up as anxiety and but me on Wellbutrin XL and Ativan...I hope neither of these mess with my appetite or training or I will be one pissed off mofo! The doc also suggested that I go see a counselor for anger management...damn Tren

A very honorable post Necro...be careful with the ativan, its pretty addictive shit and make sure to ween off of it when you stop it. I also have a TrenAcetate100/Testprop100 mixture Im starting.. PM me and tell me what brand your using if you dont mind. good luck

 

[Geebee52]

Thanks athlete0185. It's about what I did. I will increase doses a little bit because it's my third such cycle. Good luck. We"ll exchange information on our progressing.

 

[thick]

you might want to base that on your weight compared to his as well as your previous cycle history compared to his as well.

Rats, I'll need more sust then... only have 15ml.


Thanks for the advice.

 

[graybass]

IMHO, I feel a million times better keeping the Test as high as twice the amount of Tren. Also I'll never use Tren A again. the Enanthate ester is so much more agreeable to my body.
Tren shuts you down so hard you've got to keep the test higher.
I feel the same way about Deca.

I think you'd be commiting mental and sexual suicide taking more Tren than Test.
But! the gains are the best!