insulin pin depth

[Big Trav]

This is my first experience with insulin pins. I just starting igf and was curious, do you go in all the way with the pin(half inch), or just half of that?

 

[Southernjuice]

You go all the way bro but if it's an area where there is'nt much SQ tissue then go at a 45 degree angle or pinch some skin up then shoot.

 

[Sack]

This is my first experience with insulin pins. I just starting igf and was curious, do you go in all the way with the pin(half inch), or just half of that?

southerjuice couldnt have said it better.
balls

 

[john_phillips]

southerjuice couldnt have said it better.
balls

Have you tried IGF sub q? Do yourself a flavor and shoot a muscle. Couple reasons...there is "inconclusive" murmurs of localized site growth. Even if it doesn't cause localized growth...it's worth the chance right? Second...my experiences with it subQ left lumps. Not worth it.
Bro - it's a 29g 1/2 inch pin stick the good stuff.

JaPe

 

[Southernjuice]

Even if it did cause localized cell growth it would effect the underlying muscle .

 

[einstein1905]

It definitely does cause site-specific growth. Going subQ allows the IGF to go systemic and bind IGF receptors at random, a large concentration of which are on your intestinal epithelium. Shooting directly into the muscle allows the IGF-1 receptors on your satellite cells to be bound, causing them to differentiate into mature myocytes. Just mix up the IM site injections to all the major points of interest.

I'm not saying you'll get growth gut by shooting subQ, but you're allowing a more random binding of receptors...like a shotgun approach. Clearly though, high levels of IGF-1 systemically over time will cause growth gut in some people...look at many of the pros.

 

[harleyman]

It definitely does cause site-specific growth. Going subQ allows the IGF to go systemic and bind IGF receptors at random, a large concentration of which are on your intestinal epithelium. Shooting directly into the muscle allows the IGF-1 receptors on your satellite cells to be bound, causing them to differentiate into mature myocytes. Just mix up the IM site injections to all the major points of interest.

I'm not saying you'll get growth gut by shooting subQ, but you're allowing a more random binding of receptors...like a shotgun approach. Clearly though, high levels of IGF-1 systemically over time will cause growth gut in some people...look at many of the pros.

i always used a slin pin 29gae 1/2 inch shot it in the shoulders worked good i liked the results.i used 2ml in a month50mcg to 100mcg just finished.

 

[einstein1905]

Just to clarify, shooting IM doesn't mean that the IGF won't go systemic. It just means that much of it will be preferentially bound in the muscle you're shooting each time. You should still feel the "tired" feeling after shooting and the numbness in the extremities.

 

[harleyman]

Just to clarify, shooting IM doesn't mean that the IGF won't go systemic. It just means that much of it will be preferentially bound in the muscle you're shooting each time. You should still feel the "tired" feeling after shooting and the numbness in the extremities.

felt the tired feeling probably about an hour and ahalf after shooting.usually took about an hour or so before training the workouts were incredible.

 

[basskiller]

einstein is right on the money with this one.. Those who have used it IM can tell!

 

[The-Juice-Man]

advice

einstein is right on the money with this one.. Those who have used it IM can tell!

My advice, seeing since I have over 50,000 insulin pin hits. "DIABETIC" Is too always pinch the skin, this helps with the delivery and the scar tissue you might recieve. Good luck and be careful my brotha.

 

[Big Trav]

Just to clarify, shooting IM doesn't mean that the IGF won't go systemic. It just means that much of it will be preferentially bound in the muscle you're shooting each time. You should still feel the "tired" feeling after shooting and the numbness in the extremities.

Your right about the numbness...took it about an hour ago and my whole arm is numb, but i don't really feel tired. Heres something for you guys...has anyone shot their biceps or triceps, if so, what kind of results did you see?

 

[john_phillips]

Your right about the numbness...took it about an hour ago and my whole arm is numb, but i don't really feel tired. Heres something for you guys...has anyone shot their biceps or triceps, if so, what kind of results did you see?

With the tri's (and I would imagine most muscles you shoot IM, especially with IGF)- be careful to make sure you are going dead center in the muscle belly...if you are to close to the sides it will cause slight "deformations" in the overall form. I can now see why some pros and top level NPC competitors have been accused of using synthol. They deny it, but have odd shaped, irregular muscles...I think I believe them now after seeing my own changes in my tris and lower quads from IGF IM injections.

JaPe

 

[Big Trav]

Can you shoot sub-q into the bicep? I've never site injected so where is the best spot on the bicep to take it?