Intro to Peptides

smashfit

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Alright guys, so I noticed there's not a lot of info here on Peptides, understandably so since this board mainly discusses AAS....but there is a section here for it so I figured I'd post this.

I certainly claim to be no expert, but Peptides fascinate me and they are quite the impressive "drug" if you will, so I figured I would share my knowledge with you. Any questions please feel free to ask! :D

First, let's go over some abbreviations...

  • GHRH -Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone
  • GHRP - Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide
  • GRF - Growth Releasing Factor
  • DAC - Drug Affinity Complex
Okay now that that's out of the way, I'm going to go over a few of the most commonly talked about Peptide's on this board...

  • GHRP-6 - First generation Peptide, side effects go beyond GH release including gastric motility, hunger (we're talking like...you're gonna eat a few Big Mac's and STILL be hungry) mild increase in Prolactic (hormone that enables lactation) and Cortisol (hormone directly related to stress)
  • GHRP-2 - Second generation Peptide, stronger GH releasing qualities, NO gastric motility side effects, still hunger side effects (maybe now you'll be satisfied after 3 Big Mac's instead of 6...) effects Prolactic and Cortisol, but doesn't deviate much from the normal ranges.
  • Ipamorelin - Third generation Peptide, least "sloppy" of all the GHRP's, does not cause quite as much GH release as GHRP-2, however has NO gastric motility sides, hunger, or Prolactin/Cortisol increases.
  • CJC 1295 w/o DAC- I will be referring to this peptide by it's proper name which is MOD GRF (1-29) [Originally, this peptide was known as GRF 1-29, they added the "CJC & DAC" when they added the combining drug complex to study it's effectiveness.....this is where the name comes from, however medically speaking CJC is not in itself a peptide, and when they were first coming up with this peptide complex, they couldn't make it last more than a few seconds in the body...hence the continued tweaking of the Peptide and they came up with MOD GRF (1-29)] The (1-29) represents the first 29 amino acids that are used of the 44 that we possess. The other 15 basically get dumped to the side and are useless....Lasts approx. 30 minutes in your system and is the optimal choice.
  • CJC 1295 - aka CJC 1295 w/ DAC, no need to delve too much into this, as MOD GRF (1-29) is a much superior peptide, lasts several days in your system...much sloppier Peptide.
** Public Service Announcement** People really made these CJC's very confusing because SOMEONE decided to be lazy and just give things a "nickname" if you will, that is closely related to the other Peptide, but then just never call it by it's given scientific name, which in reality....makes much more sense and gives everyone less of a ...'what the fuck is going on here? who the fuck is CJC?? Who the fuck is DAC?!?!' Don't shoot me I'm just the messenger! :eek:

So what should I use to lose fat ???
To lose fat, you'll want to choose one of the above mentioned GHRP's combined with MOD GRF (1-29) ** You'll want to time it out to the part of the day where calories consumed are lower than energy expended
--> Example of a dosing regimen

  1. Fasted cardio
  2. Pre-workout (IF workout is designed to be cardio-focused and lose fat)
  3. AM/Midday/PWO
So what should I use to gain muscles brah??
To gain muscle, you'll want to choose one of the above mentioned GRHP's combined with MOD GRF (1-29) **Around the weight workout and period that follows
--> Example of dosing regimen

  1. AM/Pre-WO/Bed
  2. AM/Post-WO/Bed
  3. Pre-WO/Bed/Middle of Night
 
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This is potentially a stupid question since you are a female but, are peptides recommended for a female?
 
@FuriousWO Peptides are certainly recommend for females! We actually benefit from them more than men do *on average*....Our GH systems vary slightly, but not as much as people think!
 
Also, peptides, at varying doses have different actions.
For example....Ipamorelin dosage...

1x/day(PM) = anti-aging and some sleep benefits
2x/day(AM/PM)= anti-aging, improved sleep, some lypolisis/muscular gain
3x/day (depending on your goals...lose weight/gain muscle)= all of the above mentioned plus more GH release
 
Hey smash, I've heard a lot of hype about sermorelin ( i could be spelling this wrong) and im just curios what you might know about it. I never see this drug discussed in this section.
I used it for about 6 months and honestly felt i got nothing out of it and at 250$ per month it seemed not worth it.
 
Hey smash, I've heard a lot of hype about sermorelin ( i could be spelling this wrong) and im just curios what you might know about it. I never see this drug discussed in this section.
I used it for about 6 months and honestly felt i got nothing out of it and at 250$ per month it seemed not worth it.

The issue with all of these peptides is you never know if you have the real deal. I've had success with most of those smash has listed but that doesn't mean I even had what was on the label. Know what I mean?

Did you use the same source the entire 6 month run?
 
Hey smash, I've heard a lot of hype about sermorelin ( i could be spelling this wrong) and im just curios what you might know about it. I never see this drug discussed in this section.
I used it for about 6 months and honestly felt i got nothing out of it and at 250$ per month it seemed not worth it.
Im pretty sure serm has a very short pulse period when it comes to GH. If your going to use it its prob best used with a ghrp but I am confident you would be better served using Mod GRF 1-29 in most all cases over sermorelin (that us best used with a GHRP as well imo).
 
Hey smash, I've heard a lot of hype about sermorelin ( i could be spelling this wrong) and im just curios what you might know about it. I never see this drug discussed in this section.
I used it for about 6 months and honestly felt i got nothing out of it and at 250$ per month it seemed not worth it.

GRF(1-29) and Sermorelin are basically the same. GRF (1-29) was created before MOD GRF (1-29)...the whole reason they made MOD GRF (1-29) is because when studied, GRF (1-29) was absorbed by blood enzymes within minutes. The only way it was be effective is if you directly injected it into the base of the brain where the Pituitary Gland is, then you'll be good to go! However, I don't recommend that ;)

Hence why you felt as though you got nothing out of it..well, because you didn't Lol doesn't matter if it's "the most legitimate source out there" because of its chemical make-up it will ALWAYS be destroyed by the body in a matter of minutes.
 
The issue with all of these peptides is you never know if you have the real deal. I've had success with most of those smash has listed but that doesn't mean I even had what was on the label. Know what I mean?

Agreed! An easy trick to know how "legitimate" or not it is...? If it doesn't come to you in the mail with any type of cold pack, dry ice, etc....then it's either bunk, or not safe to take!
 
GRF(1-29) and Sermorelin are basically the same. GRF (1-29) was created before MOD GRF (1-29)...the whole reason they made MOD GRF (1-29) is because when studied, GRF (1-29) was absorbed by blood enzymes within minutes. The only way it was be effective is if you directly injected it into the base of the brain where the Pituitary Gland is, then you'll be good to go! However, I don't recommend that ;)

Hence why you felt as though you got nothing out of it..well, because you didn't Lol doesn't matter if it's "the most legitimate source out there" because of its chemical make-up it will ALWAYS be destroyed by the body in a matter of minutes.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge smash, yes i was getting it from a hrt doc so it was legit for sure.
He keeps asking if i want more, and i was thinking about it but after what you had to say i know my thoughts were correct, waste of money.
And so to be clear its MOD GRF(129) that i want? For anti aging sleep benefits and increase in muscle tone.
 
she ever get her hormone levels checked for a before/after comparison?

no she did not. We are under the impression that the slight increase in GH would be hard to accurately test for. do you know if there is a test that would work?
 
Thx for this thread. Been looking for s consolidated page on this ....

Btw. Will you also be discussing other peps such as mk677 etc. also which ones are research liquids and those that are injectable.
 
GRF(1-29) and Sermorelin are basically the same. GRF (1-29) was created before MOD GRF (1-29)...the whole reason they made MOD GRF (1-29) is because when studied, GRF (1-29) was absorbed by blood enzymes within minutes. The only way it was be effective is if you directly injected it into the base of the brain where the Pituitary Gland is, then you'll be good to go! However, I don't recommend that ;)

Hence why you felt as though you got nothing out of it..well, because you didn't Lol doesn't matter if it's "the most legitimate source out there" because of its chemical make-up it will ALWAYS be destroyed by the body in a matter of minutes.

Completely Correct. However, side effects/unknown long term shit aside -

Cjc-DAC when stacked with somatostatin inhibitors is hands down the best peptide for changing ones physique. No other pep can raise IGF by 200+ points that's stuff only rHGH can do
 
The issue with all of these peptides is you never know if you have the real deal. I've had success with most of those smash has listed but that doesn't mean I even had what was on the label. Know what I mean?

Did you use the same source the entire 6 month run?
Yes same source, it was actually an HRTclinic and prescibed by doctors so i know it was legit.
 
Im pretty sure serm has a very short pulse period when it comes to GH. If your going to use it its prob best used with a ghrp but I am confident you would be better served using Mod GRF 1-29 in most all cases over sermorelin (that us best used with a GHRP as well imo).
Thanks for the response jimmyink i think im gzonna look into getting my hands on some MOD GRF 1-29 and ghrp and see where that takes me.
 
Idfk why they prescribe that... Tesamorelin would be much better option. I think it's marketed as egrifta so it is FDA approved
Me either i bought into the pitch he gave me that it worked as good as GH with no sides. My buddy still takes it, he's convinced it works cause the doc keeps telling him about all the positive feedback he gets from his patience but i call BS!!!!
 
Me either i bought into the pitch he gave me that it worked as good as GH with no sides. My buddy still takes it, he's convinced it works cause the doc keeps telling him about all the positive feedback he gets from his patience but i call BS!!!!

If you don't see it drop that shit. Ghrp + mod 129 4x day

2 shots 2 hours apart in AM
2 shots 2 hours apart PM

THAT will be much closer to GH. If you can afford TOM go with him
 
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