Im 20 years old 6'3 180 lbs and in pretty moderately good shape. Ive been thinking about going on a winstrol cycle. I will be lifting 5 days a week and will have a proper diet as well. I want to get bigger but i dont want to get enormous. I read that winstrol really helps you gain a lot of strength and a little size. I know people generally see win as inferior to test but i really just want to get a little bigger and harder. Would you guys say win is a good choice for me? Btw ive lifted off and on for the past 3 years and i just wanna get a little more out of my hard work
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Is a winstrol a good choice?
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A friend of mine ran a winny only cycle and got amazing results. He loved it and all the girls loved it as well. His stats are very similar to yours except the height but age and weight are same. He got a very vascular look and gained plenty of strength. He will be running the same winny only cycle again in march. People will say no test no cycle but for your goals I say a winny only cycle would work
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Bro winny will not, repeat will not make you bigger. It will harden you up and i don't know about the strength gains because it dries you joints up therefore you cant put as much resistance of muscles due to it being painful. So if you want to get cut and hard yes winny is the compound. Try a cycle of test only for you first cycle and i think you will be pretyy happy.
His goal is to get cut and hard with test he will achieve the opposite of that lol. Winny does gives you strength. joint pain? Is called fish oil and glucosamine that will work just fine and dandy. My boy uses winny only and the kid is throwing up 315 6 times it don't seem like much but for a 180 pound model that's big boy status. I feel that ur first cycle should include test and I would run winny with test even for a first cycle but that's not what you want. Carlos remember that not everyone wants the same things or joins the game for the same reason he does not want to be a body builder or get huge he just wants to get harder leaner and add strength if he takes test he won't achieve his goal and will be upset and further from his goal than he is now. A winny only cycle would help him and perhaops that alone can put him where he wants to be.
Ay what's your body fat? Not yours carlos the op?
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fina lover
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TREN-A!!!!!! Ridiculous strength gains lean diet an you won't gain mass and you'll lean out.. It's a perfect I mean PERFECT choice. Keep dose at 75mg Ed or eod and you'll be happy. Go to your local vitamin shop and pick up max anabol or any other naty test booster and you'll be cool. Don't get me wrong synthetic test is best but this option reduces amount of gear needed.
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i know i just had to post it.. i guess to the op you need to decide what the "main" priority is, is it to cut or gain strength. it sounds like cutting is what you want so ill bow out of this. go for winny
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Get Some
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What everyone always fails to mention is that the type of AAS you choose has little to do with your overall goal. In fact, choosing winstrol just because it "hardens" you up may be the wrong thing to do. For example, you can cut effectively while running Deca.... it's very anabolic and at lower doses really lubes the joints well and really promotes nitrogen retention in the muscles.
Winny without Test is like a dick without balls...what good is a big dick if it can't produce? People who choose to run oral only cycles should not bother with steroids. Furthermore, your first AAS cycle should NEVER be a cutting cycle. You need to bulk on the first cycle and realize the true potential of the drug. Cutting first is a huge mistake.
DIET IS KEY! You can run test with a mild AI and get really cut...I'm serious. You have to lower your caloric intake and realize that the test is present mainly as an anti-catabolic force. The goal on a cut is to dramaticallly reduce body fat while retaining as much muscle as possible. Expecting anything more is foolish at best.
Water retention on test...dissipates post cycle! So don't worry about it like it's a life or death situation.
The bulking Myth.... You WILL NOT "blow up" just because you are shooting test! If you are loking for dramatic size, you need dramatic workouts and a dramatic amount of food. It's stating to piss me off when people come on here and think that it's easy to blow the fuck up and KEEP those gains. So, get this through your heads....
"the only thing that's easy in life is sitting back and relying on something/someone else"
Tell me how often that works out for you. BE a go getter....have every piece of pertinent information at your disposal and do not jump into anything because the "anticipation is killing you"...be smart and take charge of your destiny TODAY, man up
I'm out...
Winny without Test is like a dick without balls...what good is a big dick if it can't produce? People who choose to run oral only cycles should not bother with steroids. Furthermore, your first AAS cycle should NEVER be a cutting cycle. You need to bulk on the first cycle and realize the true potential of the drug. Cutting first is a huge mistake.
DIET IS KEY! You can run test with a mild AI and get really cut...I'm serious. You have to lower your caloric intake and realize that the test is present mainly as an anti-catabolic force. The goal on a cut is to dramaticallly reduce body fat while retaining as much muscle as possible. Expecting anything more is foolish at best.
Water retention on test...dissipates post cycle! So don't worry about it like it's a life or death situation.
The bulking Myth.... You WILL NOT "blow up" just because you are shooting test! If you are loking for dramatic size, you need dramatic workouts and a dramatic amount of food. It's stating to piss me off when people come on here and think that it's easy to blow the fuck up and KEEP those gains. So, get this through your heads....
"the only thing that's easy in life is sitting back and relying on something/someone else"
Tell me how often that works out for you. BE a go getter....have every piece of pertinent information at your disposal and do not jump into anything because the "anticipation is killing you"...be smart and take charge of your destiny TODAY, man up
I'm out...
KBD
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AAS isnt a good choice for u at all at your age.
Diet and HARD WORK is a good choice... wait no, make that an EXCELLENT choice!
A winstrol only cycle is stupid. Actually come to think of it, running any compound alone with out testosterone is just flat out ignorant.
First cycle should always be TEST only. Idk where these people get off saying that winstrol only is a good cycle.
And why are you guys encouraging a 20 year old to use?
Just like Get Some said, dont think that shooting roids is gonna get you big, if your not eating enough food 4000-5000 calories a day) and your not training hard (if not harder as u should be) then your not gonna see shit period.
Winstrol is not a bulker, you will not gain any significant size, IF any for that matter on a winstrol only. You might see strength gains thats about it. Winstrol DOESNT burn fat so dont expect to be "Super ripped" without a clean lean diet.
Oh just for the hell of it, Winstrol alone is known for shutting your sex drive down... (P.S i love how people say they dont care about sex drive and then they come back 2 months later bitching they cant get their dick up) lol.
And winstrol fucks your hairline hard with a 12 inch dildo.
You can cut with Anadrol if you know what your doing...
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I'm not telling him to run or not to run. I'm just telling him from what I know. It don't matter if ur 30 20 or 10 years old is ur future ur life your body u do you. I'm not his father or guidance counselor I said what I know about a winny only cycle. I never said it was the best or he should do it. We all have diff goals he wants to get lean and hard why would you say that winny alone won't cut the job? I've seen it been run alone and with great results.
No flame wars or bullshit please no need for anyone to get banned and for the love of god don't start talking about ages and when to start there's plenty threads for that.
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No flame wars or bullshit please no need for anyone to get banned and for the love of god don't start talking about ages and when to start there's plenty threads for that.
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I didnt say you were his mentor. Fact of the matter is, hes gonna do what he wants regardless of what the hell we tell him. But its better to try and steer him away from it.. Catch my drift?
Kbd I respect you man and I get what you are saying. Is all about diet and that's something half of aas users don't understand. Diet training rest then gear. That's how I see it but half if not most don't know or get that they think is magic(a few people I know). I've helped out talk a few people out of using some in this forum with you and solo I believe but if they have their mind set is over might as well help them out and steer them the right way correct?
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lololololololololol that is funny tho
fina lover
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and keep in mind this guys doin it cuz his pretty boy freind gets more girls and like any guy he wants that to happen to him. most youngsters in it to look good for chicks will never listen to us its the youngsters that are in in it for themselves to feel better bout themselves those are the only ones we will reach. so rather then waist our time trying to talk it out with this type i find it more beneficial to guide these folks in the right direction.
Get Some
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A winstrol only cycle is a sign of immaturity, someone who doesn't want to commit. How hard is it to pop a tab each day. Compare that to planning out a few injections each week. Big time difference.
Ok, no one is getting banned.... DON'T EVER tell any of us what NOT to talk about. Age is a very important factor here, especially when it comes to maturity. People can make their own decisions...but I put in my $0.02 ahead of time so at least when they come back crying I can say "I told you so"
KBD
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No, we gave them THE RIGHT advice and if they choose to ignore it, then well they will learn the hard way.
Its a lesson.
Get some is a tad sensitive. Relax and take off the caps my man. I get what your saying but look at what he wants he's not like us that plan out a cycle with diff compounds plan a diet and train our asses off.
He wants to run it and asked what people thought about it. I've seen it ran ad it worked have u run it alone? Do you have experience to back up that its a waste and won't work? One more thing how old was arnold and frank and half the guys most here admire? We all know they were on their teens I know people that started early 20s and now are in their 40s with wifes children and the whole 10 yards. But is not everyone he can gain what he wants from a winny cycle some strength and a harder leaner look. It all depends on the cycle I know people that cut on a test only cycle due to their diet.
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He wants to run it and asked what people thought about it. I've seen it ran ad it worked have u run it alone? Do you have experience to back up that its a waste and won't work? One more thing how old was arnold and frank and half the guys most here admire? We all know they were on their teens I know people that started early 20s and now are in their 40s with wifes children and the whole 10 yards. But is not everyone he can gain what he wants from a winny cycle some strength and a harder leaner look. It all depends on the cycle I know people that cut on a test only cycle due to their diet.
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KBD
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Look man, were not saying if u start a young age "THATS IT UR SCREWED. No, but is it WISE to start at a later age, and i wish i would have waited. So im trying to steer people in my age group into the right direction as to NOT make my mistake. Cause they will regret it as i do now.
Just like Get Some said, fuck how hard is it to pop a 50mg winstrol tab every day and half ass workout and "think you can eat what you want" Because people who just pop 1 50mg winstrol a day i can guarantee do not have a good training routine NOR diet, its a immature move...
If your going to do a cycle, DO IT RIGHT.
Kbd and get some you are right I'm not trying to argue or call anyone out. Should he wait? Yes. Should he train and diet harder? Maybes, possibly, yes. Does he have to turn to aas to achieve what he wants? Nope.
But the point was would the cycle work? Yes but not to the extent that we would want but it works.
Like I said.. Its all in the diet and training
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But the point was would the cycle work? Yes but not to the extent that we would want but it works.
Like I said.. Its all in the diet and training
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Would it work, probably.. Would it be disappointing? Very...
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