Is all igf-1 fake as rich piano says?

Mr rich piano claims that all igf-1 is fake. Is this true? Has anyone ever gotten legit igf-1/bloods? I read on shill forums that rui is legit but the owner of rui owns the shill forum.
I use rui. Never had problems with their ancillaries. But I never ventured to the other stuff so I'm not sure about igf-1
 
Speaking of this dude. Anyone know a website where the movie generation Iron 2 is free?
Nope. I tried looking for a few days on my stack of websites I use and it never popped up. Was hoping to see my boy Cal.
 
Bostin isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but he is not as fake as Piana.

Yeah i agree that's why I figured maybe his stuff MIGHT be halfway decent especially because he admits what stuff of his he does and doesn't take, but he swears by is igf and at one point had a good return policy, but regardless I like him way more then that idiot piana
 
Exactly... 100%

Next endeavor? Purchase some that tested well and pull igf levels maybe?
My understanding is IGF-1 LR3 will NOT show up on a blood test... Maybe @ChestRockwell or @jano can clarify further... My understanding is all you really CAN do is test the product in a lab to verify if it's in fact IGF-1 LR3, then based it's effectiveness off of - be it shotty - anecdotal evidence....
 
No, in my opinion it will not show on blood tests.
We could easily test this... Do a baseline blood sample, then an injection of already tested and confirmed IGF-1 LR3 and perform another blood test, yeah?
 
My understanding is IGF-1 LR3 will NOT show up on a blood test... Maybe @ChestRockwell or @jano can clarify further... My understanding is all you really CAN do is test the product in a lab to verify if it's in fact IGF-1 LR3, then based it's effectiveness off of - be it shotty - anecdotal evidence....

No, in my opinion it will not show on blood tests.
Hmmm always wondered that. Chest or Jano, can you briefly explain (in retarded terms cause I'm not smart) why it wouldn't show up on a test? And if not, I can't think functionally about how it would do anything

This discussion is never-ending about IGF with little answers I feel
 
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Hmmm always wondered that. Chest or Jano, can you briefly explain (in retarded terms cause I'm not smart) why it wouldn't show up on a test? And if not, I can't think functionally about how it would do anything

This discussion is never-ending about IGF with little answers I feel
Here's a good quote from my boy @ProfessorX :

IGF1 LR3 is not going to elevate or show IGF1 elevation in a blood test

IGF1 LR3 is a completely different analog with a different molecular weight

IGF-1 (increlex) would be a synthetic protein that is "bio-identical"

IGF1 LR3 is not "bio-identical"

Example:

Injecting Synthetic Growth Hormone will elevate ones Growth Hormone Serum

Injecting IGF1 LR3 will not elevate ones IGF Serum

I agree with with Jano about using HGH
 
We could easily test this... Do a baseline blood sample, then an injection of already tested and confirmed IGF-1 LR3 and perform another blood test, yeah?
I'm considering doing this for the science.

I will be away for a few days now, but I should be back in about a week - if you'll remind me (feel free to PM me) we might work something out.
 
Hmmm always wondered that. Chest or Jano, can you briefly explain (in retarded terms cause I'm not smart) why it wouldn't show up on a test? And if not, I can't think functionally about how it would do anything

This discussion is never-ending about IGF with little answers I feel
IGF-1 and IGF-1 LR3 are not identical molecules. Mass spectrometric methods for blood work (like LC/MS/MS used for testosterone) would not detect LR3 with 100% certainty as normal IGF-1.


However, with immunotests it sometimes happens that even a slightly different chemical will cause positive reading (think Roche ECLIA and E2 and trenbolone). So I cannot claim with 100% certainty that LR3 WON'T get picked up by some tests. I however, don't think there would be interference.
 
I'm considering doing this for the science.

I will be away for a few days now, but I should be back in about a week - if you'll remind me (feel free to PM me) we might work something out.
Didn't you get a positive test on the Hyge IGF-1 LR3? I can't remember what they call it, but same group...
 
IGF-1 and IGF-1 LR3 are not identical molecules. Mass spectrometric methods for blood work (like LC/MS/MS used for testosterone) would not detect LR3 with 100% certainty as normal IGF-1.


However, with immunotests it sometimes happens that even a slightly different chemical will cause positive reading (think Roche ECLIA and E2 and trenbolone). So I cannot claim with 100% certainty that LR3 WON'T get picked up by some tests. I however, don't think there would be interference.
Then biologically speaking, I'm having trouble finding a use for it in terms of any kind of results you might see. If it's not raising serum IGF, then what does it do in the body that has any advantage for BB or strength training or fat loss? Sounds like just placebo at this point
 
If it's not raising serum IGF, then what does it do in the body that has any advantage for BB or strength training or fat loss

this is the million dollar question... Now, if it anecdotally produces profound results, there may be something to it. I tend to believe IGF-1 analogues are probably useless until the maximum amount of IGF-1 from exo. Gh usage is achieved... So, until you're MAXED your IGF-1 output from GH, what's the point? We KNOW GH works in terms of IGF-1 production, why mess with it?

Well, for me, it's just an experiment. I like playing with these goodies. I tried some IGF-1 LR3 from Transformix a while ago.. Man, it had SOMETHING in it as I would get almost crippling pumps during my lifts. I went into it expecting nothing, so I DOUBT it was placebo, but still possible. Or, some other random variable... But, when I removed the IGF-1, the crazy pumps stopped... So....
 
Then biologically speaking, I'm having trouble finding a use for it in terms of any kind of results you might see. If it's not raising serum IGF, then what does it do in the body that has any advantage for BB or strength training or fat loss? Sounds like just placebo at this point
The fact that it is not picked up by the test does not mean it's not active.

Just like testosterone and for example halotestin.

Would halo get picked up by testosterone blood test? Nope.

Does halo bind to the same receptors as test? Yeah!
 
Only XPEPTIDES and The Provider had me test their IGF-1 LR3.

There were also others, but they never made their results public, so I will not mention them.
Ya, the guy who runs xpeptides is awesome. On point with customer service and he told me when he was sending his IGF to you for testing and the results. I think I'm gonna grab some next week and try it out. Not too expensive for a 1mg vial anyway
 
Ya, the guy who runs xpeptides is awesome. On point with customer service and he told me when he was sending his IGF to you for testing and the results. I think I'm gonna grab some next week and try it out. Not too expensive for a 1mg vial anyway
Unfamiliar w/ these guys... Domestic US?
 
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