Is all igf-1 fake as rich piano says?

Then biologically speaking, I'm having trouble finding a use for it in terms of any kind of results you might see. If it's not raising serum IGF, then what does it do in the body that has any advantage for BB or strength training or fat loss? Sounds like just placebo at this point

We must remember that elevating endocrine IGF levels is not always what we are after. If a compound could be found that could reliably elevate autocrine IGF levels, while keeping endocrine levels suppressed, that would be a very valuable tool for a bodybuilder interested in maximum hypertrophy potential.
 
We must remember that elevating endocrine IGF levels is not always what we are after. If a compound could be found that could reliably elevate autocrine IGF levels, while keeping endocrine levels suppressed, that would be a very valuable tool for a bodybuilder interested in maximum hypertrophy potential.
I absolutely agree, but is there any way to test objectively whether this is actually happening in someone's body?
 
Rich also says 99% of all hgh from China is fake. Maybe true but rips weren't, greys aren't and blacks aren't. So I would suspect that same source has legit igf1 too
 
Another "Body Builder" that has done nothing to promote the sport or the public perception of legit BB.
He has promoted the public perception of the BB; He has taken the Meathead dumb Body Builder to new levels! I hope someone catches on Video when he blows up like Jaws in the first movie. The guy looks like shit and is shit.
 
He has promoted the public perception of the BB; He has taken the Meathead dumb Body Builder to new levels! I hope someone catches on Video when he blows up like Jaws in the first movie. The guy looks like shit and is shit.
Even Bostin Loyd is way better than Piana.
 
As of recently that might not be so, sir Ben.

mands

And once again like GGH the only way to know is to test the vial contents.

Is most IGF "fake" IDK but considering the relatively low demand, a manufacturing complexity that is every bit as difficult as GH, what most are receiving is likely to be either BUNK, PEPs, or GH, IMO.
 
In Oxygen they are using Increlex a lot. It's really hard to find it and it's quite expensive. I personally know one person who tried it. He's feedback was that he simply stopped workout because of the enormous pump during the trainning.
 
Another "Body Builder" that has done nothing to promote the sport or the public perception of legit BB.
actually if you knew anything you'd realize he doesnt compete in bodybuilding nor has a desire to. he also doesnt give a fuck what a guy like you would think jimmy bob
 
actually if you knew anything you'd realize he doesnt compete in bodybuilding nor has a desire to. he also doesnt give a fuck what a guy like you would think jimmy bob
He did compete in bodybuilding though and is considered a bodybuilder by the media and many fans.

mands
 
Igf1 is said to create new cells, new cells that our AAS will then grow later and/or during the simultaneous usage correct? This is what I've gathered, that and also this. It was said that one effect not yet understood is that it has the ability to regrow testicles atrophied during cycle and after. So to me, if your shrunken nuts start growing back and your making gains and continue to after the use then it may just be legit. But this was something I read about IGF1LR3. I assume it is the same for all 3 forms as its all IGF1.
Idk, but I'm intrigued by it all. Anyone try out RUI IGF1LR3? My buddy has a bottle that says "pure peptides" on it from them.
 
No, in my opinion it will not show on blood tests.

IGF-1 and IGF-1 LR3 are not identical molecules. Mass spectrometric methods for blood work (like LC/MS/MS used for testosterone) would not detect LR3 with 100% certainty as normal IGF-1.


However, with immunotests it sometimes happens that even a slightly different chemical will cause positive reading (think Roche ECLIA and E2 and trenbolone). So I cannot claim with 100% certainty that LR3 WON'T get picked up by some tests. I however, don't think there would be interference.

I've never ever done a blood test for IGF if that is what you mean.
Peptide shops just love the fact that you can't spot bunk IGF1-LR3 trough bloodwork.

However you can with Increlex IGF-1.
 
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