IS cumulative PIP a thing?

[Bumpygooch]

What I mean by cumulative PIP…….for 8 weeks I ran the same shit, 1ML primo(Stanford 150/ml), 1ML prop(goodlyfe), .4ml cyp(Pharma) 3x/week. No PIP at all. Since then, the last 2 weeks or so, started hit or miss PIP. Now, the last 3-4 pins have been PIP every time. One in left glute swelled and was crippling. Had to switch to quads last 2 pins, now they’re both fucking shot. Has anyone experienced this?

 

[jJjburton]

What I mean by cumulative PIP…….for 8 weeks I ran the same shit, 1ML primo(Stanford 150/ml), 1ML prop(goodlyfe), .4ml cyp(Pharma) 3x/week. No PIP at all. Since then, the last 2 weeks or so, started hit or miss PIP. Now, the last 3-4 pins have been PIP every time. One in left glute swelled and was crippling. Had to switch to quads last 2 pins, now they’re both fucking shot. Has anyone experienced this?

Yes 100% the swelling and the build up if not rotating enough sites will cause more inflammation. I have found using enough sites to allow for full inflammation to subside is what is needed here.

I pin ED and have 10 sites so i rotate, but still after some time it may start to get more pippy. I found heating area helps a ton.

Or finding another 2 sites if really need be.

 

[jJjburton]

As i rotate biceps and delts and VG and Glutes and quads. And this will usually allow for this not to occur

 

[Bumpygooch]

As i rotate biceps and delts and VG and Glutes and quads. And this will usually allow for this not to occur

I can’t do any more than 1ML in delts or they go dead. I only pin 3x/week, so, I’ll have to rotate quads(which I try to avoid) and glutes. 9 days between sites in this case.

 

[jJjburton]

I can’t do any more than 1ML in delts or they go dead. I only pin 3x/week, so, I’ll have to rotate quads(which I try to avoid) and glutes. 9 days between sites in this case.

So what have you been pinning everytime?

 

[Bumpygooch]

It was glutes exclusively for the first 8 weeks until I was crippled. Now quads for the last 4. I’ll go back to flutes now that this one has calmed down. Alternate quads/glutes now.

 

[Fattyone]

I found with dhb (no matter the dose, at least the ones I’ve tried) my body lets me know when it’s time to stop. Seems around week 10-11 or really starts getting painful and that pain builds till I throw in the towel.
Same dhb that started with zero pip, and experienced the same thing with two of the more popular sources on here.

I rotate between delts, glutes, and quads. Still trying to figure out how some of you fuckers pin lats.. bunch of contortionists.

 

[Bumpygooch]

I found with dhb (no matter the dose, at least the ones I’ve tried) my body lets me know when it’s time to stop. Seems around week 10-11 or really starts getting painful and that pain builds till I throw in the towel.
Same dhb that started with zero pip, and experienced the same thing with two of the more popular sources on here.

I rotate between delts, glutes, and quads. Still trying to figure out how some of you fuckers pin lats.. bunch of contortionists.

Ram DHB for about 15 weeks with less PIP than this primo.

 

[Fattyone]

Ram DHB for about 15 weeks with less PIP than this primo.

I think we have just discovered everyone’s body is different and yours doesn’t like long primo runs and mine doesn’t like long dhb runs.

I feel like a scientist

 

[LarryLove]

What I mean by cumulative PIP…….for 8 weeks I ran the same shit, 1ML primo(Stanford 150/ml), 1ML prop(goodlyfe), .4ml cyp(Pharma) 3x/week. No PIP at all. Since then, the last 2 weeks or so, started hit or miss PIP. Now, the last 3-4 pins have been PIP every time. One in left glute swelled and was crippling. Had to switch to quads last 2 pins, now they’re both fucking shot. Has anyone experienced this?

Absolutely. I have a tennis ball on my glute right now from abusing the spot. Rotate. Puff puff pass

 

[laclark89]

I found with dhb (no matter the dose, at least the ones I’ve tried) my body lets me know when it’s time to stop. Seems around week 10-11 or really starts getting painful and that pain builds till I throw in the towel.
Same dhb that started with zero pip, and experienced the same thing with two of the more popular sources on here.

I rotate between delts, glutes, and quads. Still trying to figure out how some of you fuckers pin lats.. bunch of contortionists.

Absolutely. I have a tennis ball on my glute right now from abusing the spot. Rotate. Puff puff pass

I hear that. Me too I have 6 spots I hitt glutes quads delts. I've always wanted to do lats I could probably get the needle in but not squeeze the plunger for sure not with more than 1cc. If its 1 compound ur having trouble with mabe try mixing them with other stuff u take.

Get a massage gun and deep tissue massage the shit out of those spots in between shots. I usto pinn the shit out of my glutes and they stopped holding oil as well. I speculate it's due to scar tissue build up, massage breaks it up .

 

[Bumpygooch]

I hear that. Me too I have 6 spots I hitt glutes quads delts. I've always wanted to do lats I could probably get the needle in but not squeeze the plunger for sure not with more than 1cc. If its 1 compound ur having trouble with mabe try mixing them with other stuff u take.

Get a massage gun and deep tissue massage the shit out of those spots in between shots. I usto pinn the shit out of my glutes and they stopped holding oil as well. I speculate it's due to scar tissue build up, massage breaks it up .

It’s the primo, always heated and always mixed with 1.4ML of other compounds. It’s a conundrum. Legs tomorrow and they’re both sore.

 

[RomanMVP]

I use rotate 16 sites, and keep track on a calendar. Each leg, lower, middle and upper on the side of the quad. Same thing on the top of each leg, plus each VMO. And both delts. And I rotate each time right side, next injection left side. Been doing this for years.

 

[HermesLabs]

Are you sure that it's not caused by synthetic carrier oils that are in your gear? It could also be a local allergic reaction. Just a thought. Having used Pharma grade primo for years never had pip even if I injected the same muscle every day.
I once tried overdosed UGL mast at 175 mg/ml and that was a Prop, horrible pip after each injection. Couldn't train the muscle for days :/
If you home-brew, try adding as little solvent as you can.

 

[Bumpygooch]

Are you sure that it's not caused by synthetic carrier oils that are in your gear? It could also be a local allergic reaction. Just a thought. Having used Pharma grade primo for years never had pip even if I injected the same muscle every day.
I once tried overdosed UGL mast at 175 mg/ml and that was a Prop, horrible pip after each injection. Couldn't train the muscle for days :/
If you home-brew, try adding as little solvent as you can.

I’d consider that as a possibility if I didn’t run 8 weeks of it without issue

 

[HermesLabs]

Interesting. I've had a similar issue with pharmaceutical Sust but my dumbass was pinning glutes only back in the day. Been years now Lol. So in my case it was cumulative ton of infection there. Think about it, there's also a minimal risk of infection whenever you pin, even if you're being careful. Do you use separate needle to draw from the vial?

 

[Bumpygooch]

Interesting. I've had a similar issue with pharmaceutical Sust but my dumbass was pinning glutes only back in the day. Been years now Lol. So in my case it was cumulative ton of infection there. Think about it, there's also a minimal risk of infection whenever you pin, even if you're being careful. Do you use separate needle to draw from the vial?

Separate draw pin and push pin, yes. This particular primo and I have a history. Giant tennis ball in my right glute last year, subsided somewhat, so, pinned again in that spot. The systemic inflammation became so great I came down with a fever. I know it couldn’t be an infection. Ran amoxicillin a couple days and it was fine. I’m going to have find this goddam VG, I think. These glutes have had it, now my quads are shitty after a week. Starting to think pin sites are irrelevant and my body is just rejecting it.

 

[Justaguy99]

Ya nix with other oils and rotate.
I've had this issue in the tail end of a blast.

Started using new sites and it subsided.
Now all trt uses sites other then glutes and vg.
This way they are fresh for blast.

 

[jJjburton]

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Separate draw pin and push pin, yes. This particular primo and I have a history. Giant tennis ball in my right glute last year, subsided somewhat, so, pinned again in that spot. The systemic inflammation became so great I came down with a fever. I know it couldn’t be an infection. Ran amoxicillin a couple days and it was fine. I’m going to have find this goddam VG, I think. These glutes have had it, now my quads are shitty after a week. Starting to think pin sites are irrelevant and my body is just rejecting it.

VG are amazing

 

[Juicedhead]

you need to rotate and also brother higher concentrations of primo will cause big pip primo literally comes in a rock form its hard as shit so to make that rock into a injectable solutuion is a much more difficult process as oppose to eq whcih comes in a luquid form or test in powder form

edit: with primobolan either use rimo amps or never go above 100mg a ml and usea good lab that has third party testing on here or use balkan or sp labs for primo ive had good luck with pharmaqo that was tested on herer but my friend you want to be bed ridden shoot 200mg a cc of primo from a ugl haha jk dont do that but you get my point. i once made the mistake of shooting 100mg of primo acetate and i had a softball in my ass cheek for a week haha