Is getting fat on test only inevitable?

[CoachCabo]

Big difference between fat and “fluff” during a “bulking” cycle. Reading through this I can’t fathom why someone would bodybuild, let alone do a cycle, without “eating cleaner” and being meticulous about a cycle. You can’t imagine (or maybe you can) how many guys I talk to who don’t weigh their food. After eating probably hundreds of kilos of chicken, I can eyeball my weight to +/- 2 grams, but I STILL weigh my food.

Test might make a fat person fatter if they already are estrogenic. I don’t know and am guessing because I would never have a fat person use test. At least not until they prove they can do everything else required in this game.

I wish people would stop this bulking or cutting drug thing. Sure, there are differences and factors in different compounds. But I can get shredded on dianabol alone.

It’s all in the diet. Or at least 80% of the equation anyway.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Testosterone making you fat?

bruhh.....

 

[JeffroCat]

How can you be this stupid ?

What??? OP creates thread wondering why testosterone is making him fat. Nightprowler tells him that one of the reasons he's fat is because he probably has high blood pressure. Then I ask my question, which seems pretty straight forward. Now tell me what's stupid about my question so I can verbally pimp slap you up and down this place.

 

[JeffroCat]

Bruh being fat makes your BP higher, I hope you’re just fkin around as it’s pretty obvious that the guy was also mentioning general unhealthy habits

Bruh, read the fuckin post again. Go slowly so you don't miss anything.

 

[Juicedhead]

Trying to plan out my second blast. First one was test 350 with some cruising for a total of 20w and didn't even require any pct drugs for me. That said, I had to take some time to cruise like I said to shave off fat that I had gained on cycle. If I aggressively control estrogen throughout (but make sure to not crash it), is it likely I'll do better with fat control? I didn't do that good of a job with controlling estrogen previously and had subscribed far too much to the modern MPMD dogma of "estrogen is anabolic bro." My face also got hella bloated, and is still a bit more bloated even off cycle (but less than on cycle) with the 9-10 ish lbs tissue that I managed to retain up till now. I'm also back down to my 32 waist size though so I'd say it was all worth it. As of today I'm about 1 month out from my last injection, and I already got bloods showing that my natty production started back up a while ago

Will adding in another compound like a DHT derivative reduce fat gains from an anabolic cycle?

dude do not listen to that clown mpmd he is against gear and wants everyone to be small and fat hence why he said stupid shit like "estrogen is anabolic" and "your first cycle should be 100mg of test" Guy is a femanist clearly and wants us all to be like women clearly. Anyway, I just cant stand that dude gives horrible advice. But yeah bro its going to be a lot of your diet forsure, throw in cardio if youre not already doing it. If i start to get a little bit when im bulking ill just start doing a little more cardio and im back to being lean. Id focus more on diet, could throw in a dht but that would be up to you. Definantly want to control e2 on cycle. How much test do you plan on using this time around?

 

[nightprowler7]

Care to explain how high blood pressure makes one fat?

It doesn't. Being fat makes your BP high. Testosterone makes it high too

 

[JeffroCat]

It doesn't. Being fat makes your BP high. Testosterone makes it high too

That's right. It doesn't. But just for the smart asses in the the room, your words:

You're getting fat because your nutrition isn't dialed in, your BP is probably high, and your training is shit.

 

[nightprowler7]

That's right. It doesn't. But just for the smart asses in the the room, your words:

You know what I meant lol

 

[Zerk369]

dude do not listen to that clown mpmd he is against gear and wants everyone to be small and fat hence why he said stupid shit like "estrogen is anabolic" and "your first cycle should be 100mg of test" Guy is a femanist clearly and wants us all to be like women clearly. Anyway, I just cant stand that dude gives horrible advice. But yeah bro its going to be a lot of your diet forsure, throw in cardio if youre not already doing it. If i start to get a little bit when im bulking ill just start doing a little more cardio and im back to being lean. Id focus more on diet, could throw in a dht but that would be up to you. Definantly want to control e2 on cycle. How much test do you plan on using this time around?

I got pretty big on 150mg test a week..... it just took a year of heavy lifting. Work output > gear intake. went from 73kg - 84kg and then 87kg next year. 13% bf.
5ft11
The adhd medicine might have helped me but never went above 200mg test a week. At above 200 i get acne and mood swings.

 

[ChevChelios]

That's right. It doesn't. But just for the smart asses in the the room, your words:

Then you tell me to read better ahah bro I literally just said that being fat makes your BP higher n you’re confused why the guy wrote that acting like he wrote BP makes you fat, are you dyslexic? Anyone should be able to tell that he was talking bout him having a generally unhealthy lifestyle ahah ofc BP doesn’t make you fat it’s the other way round, idk why you bein confrontational over shit a lil kid would have been able to interpret correctly pffft

 

[JeffroCat]

1. Shut your fucking mouth when you're talking to me.

2. Reading is fundamental.

 

[Zerk369]

Then you tell me to read better ahah bro I literally just said that being fat makes your BP higher n you’re confused why the guy wrote that acting like he wrote BP makes you fat, are you dyslexic? Anyone should be able to tell that he was talking bout him having a generally unhealthy lifestyle ahah ofc BP doesn’t make you fat it’s the other way round, idk why you bein confrontational over shit a lil kid would have been able to interpret correctly pffft

1. Shut your fucking mouth when you're talking to me.

2. Reading is fundamental.

BP high = eat outmeal

 

[Juicedhead]

I got pretty big on 150mg test a week..... it just took a year of heavy lifting. Work output > gear intake. went from 73kg - 84kg and then 87kg next year. 13% bf.
5ft11
The adhd medicine might have helped me but never went above 200mg test a week. At above 200 i get acne and mood swings.

yeah you could have done that in a few weeks on 500mg. Dont leave gains on the table by running low doses if youre going to work hard then use enough gear otherwise youre literally leaving lbs of muscle on the table.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

1. Shut your fucking mouth when you're talking to me.

makes sense

 

[ChevChelios]

That's right. It doesn't. But just for the smart asses in the the room, your words:

Then you tell me to read better ahah bro I literally just said that being fat makes your BP higher n you’re confused why the guy wrote that acting like he wrote BP makes you fat, are you dyslexic? Anyone should be able to tell that he was talking bout him having a generally unhealthy lifestyle ahah ofc BP doesn’t make you fat it’s the other way round, idk why you bein confrontational over shit a lil kid would have been able to interpret correctly pffft

 

[ChevChelios]

You know what I meant lol

He’s just angry n retarded ahah idk why anyone would get so caught up in semantics, shit the OP was the idiot in this post at the start but that guy quickly overlapped him

 

[malfeasance]

Love your post.

I don't know about this part though. How about 19-nors? Definitely some anecdotes out there that give one pause.

Is there a hormonal basis for human homosexuality? - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Minireview: Hormones and Human Sexual Orientation - PMC

Many people believe that sexual orientation (homosexuality vs. heterosexuality) is determined by education and social constraints. There are, however, a large number of studies indicating that prenatal factors have an important influence on this ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Fetal Testosterone May Program Boys' Behavior

Testosterone levels in the womb might program certain behaviors later in life, new research shows.

www.livescience.com

Prenatal hormones and sexual orientation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Ok, none of that talks about adult men injecting 19-nors and turning homosexual . . .

 

[29trt]

what this man needs is GH and lots of it!

 

[readalot]

Ok, none of that talks about adult men injecting 19-nors and turning homosexual . . .

Absolutely. That was covered by my anecdotes comment. The lit posted was on the womb hypothesis.

Re: 19 nors in adult males...Fortunately it appears to be reversible in many cases upon cessation. Is it really just drug induced hypersexuality? Seems 19-nors cause more tranny fixation rather than full blown homosexuality in males. Not well studied and no peer reviewed literature I am aware of.

 

[marsupial]

I got pretty big on 150mg test a week..... it just took a year of heavy lifting. Work output > gear intake. went from 73kg - 84kg and then 87kg next year. 13% bf.
5ft11
The adhd medicine might have helped me but never went above 200mg test a week. At above 200 i get acne and mood swings.

73 kg and you hopped on eh? Maybe the addy was also decreasing your weight