Is it safe to use hcg and clomid together during pct?

[BirdieNumNum]

I blasted for four years at high doses of AAS and testosterone, I tried PCT after PCT and nothing made a difference. People on this forum said I was fine and nothing would work, but they were WRONG.
Search through the list you'll see it.

 

[aestheticsfirst]

Did you post a thread about it? I will search for it under your name

 

[aestheticsfirst]

I'm not able to access your profile it says it's limited to only certain members can you link me to the thread?

 

[The Terminator]

I'm not able to access your profile it says it's limited to only certain members can you link me to the thread?

Just go to the search and enter his handle, if you uncheck “posts in this forum only” you’ll be able to see his entire post history even if he set his profile to private. But the thread you’re looking for is in this forum so don’t uncheck it

 

[aestheticsfirst]

Hey Jay Monks so I found your thread on here and read through it. It seems as though you used hcg and clomid separately but never together. What's the opinion on using the stuff together?

 

[aestheticsfirst]

Just go to the search and enter his handle, if you uncheck “posts in this forum only” you’ll be able to see his entire post history even if he set his profile to private. But the thread you’re looking for is in this forum so don’t uncheck it

Thanks Terminator I found his thread and read through it.

 

[aestheticsfirst]

So it seems he initially did clomid 150mg then switched to hcg for 2 years then switched back to clomid and then he eventually recovered. It was a good read but I'm not so sure about the doses he was using 5000iu of hcg per day at one point. i couldn't risk going that high I'm already scared of taking 100mg of clomid.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

You do not need to be sure about the doses, it really doesnt matter. I tailored it for myself because of the hcg response. There is absolutely nothing to be scared of.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I have always thought it pointless using clomid and hcg together, and I have VERY bad side effects off clomid.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

You are scared of pct drugs but you happily disrupt your endocrine pumping hormones in?
Unbelievable Jeff.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Just go to the search and enter his handle, if you uncheck “posts in this forum only” you’ll be able to see his entire post history even if he set his profile to private. But the thread you’re looking for is in this forum so don’t uncheck it

Lol dude, the way you talk is so fucking feminine, grow some balls man (lollol scuse the pun)
I am so upset that people can see my "entire post history".

 

[The Terminator]

Lol dude, the way you talk is so fucking feminine, grow some balls man (lollol scuse the pun)
I am so upset that people can see my "entire post history".

lol

 

[aestheticsfirst]

You are scared of pct drugs but you happily disrupt your endocrine pumping hormones in?
Unbelievable Jeff.

Yeah you are right the issue is that I wasn't discreet about it. Where am I from I can't have people knowing about my steroid use.

Also I didn't use hcg throughout my cycle which I should have since it helps recovery and keeps up your ball size.

I need to be really careful. If people find out I use drugs they will disapprove of me.

 

[$BlackBeard]

I've been doing a good amount of reading about PCT in general and understand it is very important to jump start your T production and get hormones back in check as fast as possible.

Re: hCG Can we discuss merits on-cycle and only in PCT?

On-cycle: 250iu-750iu it will keep your testicles in check, however, not really sure this is needed. Seems like additional money spent for no real reason. However, it may be used towards the end of the cycle to begin to jump start natural T levels.

PCT: After your T ester blend has run low, 750iu for the 1st week, declining to 250iu into the second week. Then, Clomid/Nolvadex declining for 4 weeks.

I hear only Clomid/Nolvadex and no hCG during PCT and others say to use it like above.

Help educate me further.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I've been doing a good amount of reading about PCT in general and understand it is very important to jump start your T production and get hormones back in check as fast as possible.

Re: hCG Can we discuss merits on-cycle and only in PCT?

On-cycle: 250iu-750iu it will keep your testicles in check, however, not really sure this is needed. Seems like additional money spent for no real reason. However, it may be used towards the end of the cycle to begin to jump start natural T levels.

PCT: After your T ester blend has run low, 750iu for the 1st week, declining to 250iu into the second week. Then, Clomid/Nolvadex declining for 4 weeks.

I hear only Clomid/Nolvadex and no hCG during PCT and others say to use it like above.

Help educate me further.

I've lost my baby spoons pal.

 

[$BlackBeard]

I feel bad then.

 

[Sworder]

I've been doing a good amount of reading about PCT in general and understand it is very important to jump start your T production and get hormones back in check as fast as possible.

Re: hCG Can we discuss merits on-cycle and only in PCT?

On-cycle: 250iu-750iu it will keep your testicles in check, however, not really sure this is needed. Seems like additional money spent for no real reason. However, it may be used towards the end of the cycle to begin to jump start natural T levels.

PCT: After your T ester blend has run low, 750iu for the 1st week, declining to 250iu into the second week. Then, Clomid/Nolvadex declining for 4 weeks.

I hear only Clomid/Nolvadex and no hCG during PCT and others say to use it like above.

Help educate me further.

You can create a separate thread for this if you want.
But it seems like you have a pretty good understanding of how hCG works.

I recommend getting it just because it should only cost about $30 and it can only help. If you are only doing a single cycle you won't receive much atrophy. Keep in mind guys stay on for years. So 10-12 weeks isn't huge. However if you can increase your chances for good results, why not? 1 5k iU hCG should be enough for your cycle.

You have to understand that HCG is basically LH so it will cause some shut down. That's why you don't want to use it in PCT because it will prevent you from regaining your natural production.

 

[$BlackBeard]

You can create a separate thread for this if you want.
But it seems like you have a pretty good understanding of how hCG works.

I recommend getting it just because it should only cost about $30 and it can only help. If you are only doing a single cycle you won't receive much atrophy. Keep in mind guys stay on for years. So 10-12 weeks isn't huge. However if you can increase your chances for good results, why not? 1 5k iU hCG should be enough for your cycle.

You have to understand that HCG is basically LH so it will cause some shut down. That's why you don't want to use it in PCT because it will prevent you from regaining your natural production.

Thanks. It's just been quite some time since I last used AAS. Protocols have changed. Estrogen is now understood to be anabolic as opposed to years ago the mantra was to keep it low and under control.

 

[Sworder]

Thanks. It's just been quite some time since I last used AAS. Protocols have changed. Estrogen is now understood to be anabolic as opposed to years ago the mantra was to keep it low and under control.

Yeah be careful how you word things though. I would say that having too low estrogen levels is detrimental to your gains.

If you say estrogen is anabolic you are almost implying that you can take a bunch of estrogen and that will make you grow [muscles.]

 

[$BlackBeard]

Fair point - thank you.