It has become the TRUTH, imagine that, lol!
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Is it true that all sites on eroids are scams?
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BodySynthetics
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What about me? I run Body Synthetics, #1 on eRoids.
I come from ALL of the original source boards, chemicalmass, gymbagbb, iron-lifter with d-red and hawke, thesourcecheck, anabolic-enhancement, worldclassbb, etc. I've been a 'paid sponsor' on a number of forums for a long time now. One night, I went on eRoids and spammed up a price list via the forum (against their T.O.S). I got a warning, posts removed, etc. However, my inbox under my Tor account blew up with inquiries of guys wanting to buy, so I saw $$$$$$$ in eRoids.
I argued with BFG and I still have the original time stamped e-mails in my inbox to prove it, arguing against having a website and saying it's pointless since if I was a scammer I'd just make the site to make everything run smooth for a few bucks and then run with a ton of cash. He wouldn't budge. I offered him 10% of sales, he still wouldn't budge. So, I had a site established by their terms -
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http://www.BodySynthetics.comAs for your claiming that there are e-mail based sources, the ONLY ones who were selling via e-mail were already established source's who's website went down, the ones that I can think of now are back on websites. BigD was actually one at the time I joined around May, I remember bitching about it to BFG (site admin/owner) when he wouldn't budge about me using a website.
Does eRoids have some bias and bullshit, fanboys and boosters? Yes. However, tell me ONE fucking forum that doesn't! Every single sponsor/source forum has fucking fan-boys and boosters. Every mod/admin who's board I sponsored on, was fucking EASILY bought by whoever sent him and his guys the most gear. EVERY mod on EVERY forum through the history of the fucking online AAS game, looks out for who takes care of them, simple as that. Some let you bend the rules, some give you more warnings when you should be gone, some let you do whatever you want. The ONLY time I've ran into mods with morals is on eRoids. You take care of the mods, it's a given. On eRoids, I'll be honest, it only gained me reviews from the mods (which were fair, bodybuilder and noid wouldn't give me a review until 2.5 months later, my e-mails and their post dates can confirm that as well) and a little more attention to trolls in my intro. No bias, no bullshit. RoidNoid was going to ban me for arguing with a jackass 'vet' member and I've sent him gear a few times, I can provide those dated e-mails as well. Where's the bias there?
It's amazing how many people talk shit on eRoids.
How about ProfessionalMuscle;
- Kamikaze: Top banner source, fake raws and kigtropin for almost a year
- LionsHGH & Eminesence: Fake/denatured Riptropin
- IPGEAR: Biggest fucking scammer on the internet, top banner source. Absolutely BUNK HGH and mislabeled AAS
- JohnJuan and the other vets are ALL tipped for pushing whichever source BigA says.
- AlinShop a top sponsor? Largest selective scammer ever. Sends enough to keep a support base and scams the other half.
- Have you seen ProfessionalMuscle's subscription terms? You can BUY SPONSORSHIP IN MODS FUCKING SIGNATURES. Bias? No quality control, no samples, no references, but your able to be boosted by the mods and forum depending how much $ you want to spend.
I just think it's funny how in some of your posts your telling people to avoid eRoids and use a reputable source off of an underground/paid forum, when I'm the #1 source on eRoids and have been a 'sponsor' on almost every top forum.
If you've been around long enough, you'll know them and can ask any of the following about my gear;
BigBench and Diggler (TSC)
D-Red, Hawke, BikerTrash (Iron-Lifter)
DaDawg (Iron-Lifter, Steroidology)
LiftsIron (Anabolic-Enhancement)
IronMagLabs/InfinityMuscle/FitnessGeared is STILL asking me to sponsor.
If you've got a bone to pick with a particular sponsor on eRoids, then by all means, go for it. However, don't lump us all into some bullshit label. At the end of the day eRoids has NO MORE bullshit/bias/boosting then ANY source/sponsor forum on the entire internet. Having a MASSIVE traffic vs small UG forums, is not a fair judgement, you will have more of everything when you have more numbers. If anything, the small boards have more corruption because there's less members to answer to. If losing $150 to give a source a shot, is a big deal to you, your financial situation is nothing short of a crisis and you shouldn't be purchasing AAS in the first place because there's NO WAY you can afford adequate amounts of food in this sport, if your crying over a $150 gamble.
Whew.
In summation, blow me :tiphat
When the mods are receiving AAS from sources and consequently moderate favorably towards those sources, the appearance of bias is unavoidable. It may not be quid pro quo but good luck arguing that it's not.
This is an interesting observation. Up until about 10 years ago, all sources were email-only sources. If any source had a website, the consensus among forum members was that the source was a scammer; even if they weren't a scammer, having a website was considered too risky for conducting steroid transactions.
In the last 5 years, this perception changed 180 degrees. It seems every source has a website. The risk hasn't changed at all. In fact, I would argue that it's riskier now for a source to have a website than it ever has been. However, perception has changed.
People feel more comfortable buying steroids over the internet. Sources who don't have website will lose lots of customers to those who do.
I think some sources who are satisfied with the size of their customer base have decided to move to email-only as a security measure. It doesn't guarantee a customer that the source's security practices are top-notch but it is one factor that may help keep them off the searchbot and LE radar.
BodySynthetics
New Member
Exactly. Like I said in my original post, I have ALWAYS been an e-mail based sponsor/source, until I came across eRoids. Anabolic-Enhancement's traffic become null, Iron-Lifter is dying down and many of the paid boards are slowing to a crawl. I went to eRoids just to be an asshole and spammed my price list with my e-mail. I didn't think it would pull anything, I was just slow at the time, but then my e-mail blew up from guys who just saw happened to catch the post before it was deleted. Between that and looking at their traffic volume/unique visits per month on Alexa, I figured there was big potential in customers. That's the ONLY reason I ever even pursued a website, simply because it's BFG's rules.
Having a website definitely draws attention much faster, which is why the precautions are put in place, but at the end of the day, if they want you, they'll have you.
All debate about moderating aside, the source rating format is the first original introduction to the underground in years. All other sources boards are driven by vbulletin software. Eroids is unique with its clear and singular focus on source ratings. The display is very appealing to potential customers. So, it's no surprise that the site is doing well.
If I weren't so risk-adverse, I would have given serious consideration to purchasing eroids.com when the owner made an unsolicited offer.
I can imagine that efforts to create an unbiased moderating staff would be a nightmare.
I disagree this is simply not a true statement. It is a statement of emotion however not true facts.
It's overstated for sure. But it is an interesting observation from a source on how easily most mods are influenced. Free steroids make the world go round in this business . Who else would better know what goes on behind the scenes?
I've never understood why eroids forces sources to have a website even if it's regged and hosted anonymously. The great thing about email only is that sources can have a list of customers and change their own email addys as often as they want to to make LE's job very hard.
All things being equal, it's safer NOT to have a website. Perhaps it's required under assumption that sources are more likely to be legitimate if they have an official website? Of course, this may be true for legal businesses but not necessarily case here.
I agree with most of what your saying, in particular regarding money talks and that's just how this game works.
What I don't necessarily agree with is comparing e-roids to other all out scam boards in an effort to minimize what is happening there.
Everybody knows pro muscle is a joke, ology is a joke and D-red is a complete douchebag........... E-roids is portraying itself to be above that kind of bullshit though when its not.
All in all though I do really appreciate your honesty.
100% agreed.
Its a clear conflict of interest, doesn't matter if its a Politician accepting a free vacation from a builder before he hands out a big Government Contract to him or a Moderator removing negative comments while he receives free gear.
Two wrongs don't make a right and eroids is no exception. Although eroids may parlay a few legtimate sources to their respondents and a reputable advertiser may surface occasionally, the site is replete with deceptive community reviews, "free" AAS inter-connection web sites (none being rightfully "reviewed" for content, reliability, quality etc of those products sold), seemingly endless absurd "rules" (which vary from one forum to the next) which allows prompt censorship of all unwanted content regardless of truthfulness, or sincerity, moderators used as "enforcers" (or "tools" if you prefer) to protect paid advertisers, (which approximates quid-pro-quo reimbursement IMO) some behaving as immature, condescending a-holes, rankings which are so rife with bias as to be impeachable from the outset!
True many other sites have "issues" and are far from perfect, yet you can get em ALL on eroids, (alas your search for a one stop n shop AAS site is finally over, lol) which is unrivaled on the net at present. BUYER BEWARE!
True many other sites have "issues" and are far from perfect, yet you can get em ALL on eroids, (alas your search for a one stop n shop AAS site is finally over, lol) which is unrivaled on the net at present. BUYER BEWARE!
roscogre
New Member
The rules on eroids mean nothing as long as you are kissing the sources ass. Give a bad review following all the rules 90% of the time it will be deleted. Talk to the source the way he talks to you and you will be banned. The deception is endless, they cover for liars and delete comments that expose the lies, as I have explained. There are hordes of shills who work for(or are) the source in question. The mods cover for them. The rankings are paid for, the more you pay the better the ranking, it has nothing to do with votes from unbiased customers. This was admitted to me from a source, but of course was quickly deleted. There is nothing at all honest about that site. The only good point is yes, they do list hundreds of sources and many of them are good.
The best ones however are not in the top ranked.
The best ones however are not in the top ranked.
roscogre
New Member
exactly. says the top source who pays for his ranking. These guys are getting rich off this scam and this asshat ridicules you if you lose $150? For the record it was $315, and yes it is a lot of money to me, as I work for a living. I don't spend that much on food in an entire month.
just because one find one bad source or even a dozen doesn't mean that everyone single one of sources is bad
This is very true.
It goes to show that the rankings and reviews are manipulated though, for the purpose of the board making more money.
That's not true, some sources are good. I've order 5x from eroids, only got scammed one.
-First time
They sent dianabol freebies, 10 tabs, received 11. Still got them.
-2nd time, some randomsite gave 50 sopharma clen, was legit.
3rd time, ordered chinese clen, was bunk but the supplier paid me back entirelly+WU fees.
4th time :
ordered ephedrine, received altoids in a plastic wraps with a sticker with ephedrine 30mg written on. posted reviews on eroids and src called me a liar. the review was pretty big but wasn't deleted last time i checked. See page 2 of
pharma-mart's reviews.
5th time, i ordered clen with
. Fast shipping, haven't used the product.
It was always small order so i'm not sure they would bother to scam for that much.
-First time
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http://24hreup.com-2nd time, some randomsite gave 50 sopharma clen, was legit.
3rd time, ordered chinese clen, was bunk but the supplier paid me back entirelly+WU fees.
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uk-anabolics.net4th time :
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pharma-mart.compharma-mart's reviews.
5th time, i ordered clen with
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europeanabolic.comIt was always small order so i'm not sure they would bother to scam for that much.
Euro is just OK. Id stay away from e......
When business is done this way, it's not necessarily the fault of the source.
So, does the source admit that such an arrangement exists?
I am in favor of honesty but really they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Tell the truth and no one believes their ratings are legitimate.
Lie about it and they eventually come across as dishonest.
As far a Eroids is concerned, what business model can succeed with a steroid source review forum? Sources can make a killing exploiting such a website. Should Eroids refuse to take any type of reimbursement, whether it's flat-fee advertising, commission-based advertising, kickbacks, etc. for the sake of being independent?
In an ideal world, yes. But they are not in the business of philanthropy for steroid sources.
An alternative would be to just put up google adsense code or join affiliate programs for business not involved in pharmaceuticals. But that only solves part of the problem.
Does it prevent sources sending free gear to mods? This arrangement has been so ingrained into this subculture, that it would be difficult to eliminate. This is just the way business has been historically been done when it comes to internet steroid sales.
Caveat emptor
