Is it true that all sites on eroids are scams?

What are your thoughts about the Big D situation? I watched some of that unfold, I'm not sure what to think.

whats the situation? personally I dont like the guy and stay out of his forum unless there is a problem or security issues, ive never been a fan of the way he does business but he is top rated and alot of people seem to like him so i guess hes doing something right. ive never tried his gear and I dont think ive ever even talked directly to him. but fill me in on this situation maybe it is something that I have forgot.
 
whats the situation? personally I dont like the guy and stay out of his forum unless there is a problem or security issues, ive never been a fan of the way he does business but he is top rated and alot of people seem to like him so i guess hes doing something right. ive never tried his gear and I dont think ive ever even talked directly to him. but fill me in on this situation maybe it is something that I have forgot.

There was a lot of allegations of people not receiving, negative posts being deleted, and I personally witnessed his abusive attitude towards his customers.
I also witnessed a lot of the same people continuing to come to his defense almost instantly.

So who has the power to delete messages? Do sources also have mod powers?
 
There was a lot of allegations of people not receiving, negative posts being deleted, and I personally witnessed his abusive attitude towards his customers.
I also witnessed a lot of the same people continuing to come to his defense almost instantly.

So who has the power to delete messages? Do sources also have mod powers?
nope only MODs can delete messages, and we VERY rarely do. I would be very surprised if these reviews where actually deleted. I do vaguely remember this situation, it was probably over 8 months ago(im guessing), what ever the problem was he got it situated or he would have been labeled a scam and removed from the ranks....let me tell you something as for them coming to his defense. there was a source that was turning horrible shipping times over and over again, guy was topped ranked, #1 as a matter of fact. I got involved several times pulled him from the ranks, shut him down until packs landed. I went to bat for these guys over and over again and finally got fed up with the source and his bullshit and starting telling guys to vote, the members control the site and thats the only way to get a source to drop ranks. I spent hours a day talking guys into voting, then they would get their gear and go tell the source that I was trying to get rid of him, that the gear was fire, bla bla bla. yeah brother i know all about how they turn coat REAL fast once that pack lands. but not all of them did and that source lost his spot in the ranks and finally was kicked off eroids.
 
There was a lot of allegations of people not receiving, negative posts being deleted, and I personally witnessed his abusive attitude towards his customers.
I also witnessed a lot of the same people continuing to come to his defense almost instantly.

So who has the power to delete messages? Do sources also have mod powers?

and his attitude is why I dont like him.
 
nope only MODs can delete messages, and we VERY rarely do. I would be very surprised if these reviews where actually deleted. I do vaguely remember this situation, it was probably over 8 months ago(im guessing), what ever the problem was he got it situated or he would have been labeled a scam and removed from the ranks....let me tell you something as for them coming to his defense. there was a source that was turning horrible shipping times over and over again, guy was topped ranked, #1 as a matter of fact. I got involved several times pulled him from the ranks, shut him down until packs landed. I went to bat for these guys over and over again and finally got fed up with the source and his bullshit and starting telling guys to vote, the members control the site and thats the only way to get a source to drop ranks. I spent hours a day talking guys into voting, then they would get their gear and go tell the source that I was trying to get rid of him, that the gear was fire, bla bla bla. yeah brother i know all about how they turn coat REAL fast once that pack lands. but not all of them did and that source lost his spot in the ranks and finally was kicked off eroids.

Well if what you say about sources not having mod control to delete posts is true, then the mods are in bed with the sources or the sources have the hot line to mods to make them jump.
You should get to know your audience before you spout off with shit like this. How's zeek and Pinn? We know his name addy and life story.
How do you like my attitude lame?
 
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^is why I rarely promote any sources.

This is an interesting little quote about MODS not promoting sources which I think is untrue. Eroids Mods receive gear from a great majority of these sources especially new sources, in particular. Mods will frequently post up pictures of this unpaid gear in the pictures sections. If current sources add a new line of gear they will post up pictures of that as well.

The picture part isn't so bad, I like seeing gear pics, but it is the associated reviews that the mods leaves in the sources review section. I have seen several instances where this has occurred. Now, that kind of gives noobs the impression that MODS are promoting sources.

What the hell do you call it when Bodybuilder (mod) says he has tried Fuerza Labs gear and it is G2G in the ukbest review page? There are other instances as well, I would have to log into E-Crap and find them. So do the sources pay the mods in free gear to leave good reviews??? It would seem so from an outsiders point of view.
 
This is an interesting little quote about MODS not promoting sources which I think is untrue. Eroids Mods receive gear from a great majority of these sources especially new sources, in particular. Mods will frequently post up pictures of this unpaid gear in the pictures sections. If current sources add a new line of gear they will post up pictures of that as well.

The picture part isn't so bad, I like seeing gear pics, but it is the associated reviews that the mods leaves in the sources review section. I have seen several instances where this has occurred. Now, that kind of gives noobs the impression that MODS are promoting sources.

What the hell do you call it when Bodybuilder (mod) says he has tried Fuerza Labs gear and it is G2G in the ukbest review page? There are other instances as well, I would have to log into E-Crap and find them. So do the sources pay the mods in free gear to leave good reviews??? It would seem so from an outsiders point of view.

It's the same lame ass business model eroids, PM, OUS and others have been following for years and collecting cash for board owners and gear and some fake ass popularity for reps and shills....it's starting to change,,,, the lazy and dumbest fuckers will start to suffer.....have you visited OUS lately? It's like a ghost town over there.
 
you are right I do know which ones are scamming, right next to their name it says confirmed scam, I figured you where smart enough to see the sign and reviews and order from someone that had atleast some decent reviews.

as for reviews? well theres only about 5 sources on eroids allowed to have REPs and that means they have to be there where the operation is, not internet buddies. Also REPs are not allowed to leave reviews for the source they REP for so if you could please show me where this has happened I would love to tear into their ass....Fan Boys? well what can I say there every fucking where and I cant stand them but they are allowed to leave 1 review for every purchase so not much I can do about that.....And NOOBs? Son of a bitch theres LOTS of these guys, we have tried our best to design a review format that will make them answer questions so that a vet can read the review and decipher if the guy has experience or not. there is also karma to look at as alot of vets will have a much higher karma due to their knowledge.....So my initial question still stands, what 2 sources burned you?

You are kinda funny!!! If it were only that easy. We are going to waste a lot of time by you coming over here trying to defend eroids review system and its protection of currently known selective scammers.

Sure the the sources with the SCAM tag are easy to spot. I would have to be a total idiot to order from one of those. We are NOT talking about the sources that screwed people over for longer than 6 months and finally got banned and got the little SCAM tag under their name.

I am talking about current scammers that you know that have scammed in the past and are still on E-roids. Big D comes to mind. He is a fucking lying no good piece of shit and is a selective scammer. You know it and the former Mod 7gothic knows it. 7gothic removed Big D from the rankings for screwing people over. Big D should have a SCAM tag under his name and should be banned just like you banned that other source that you were talking about in a previous post.

As for me being able to read the reviews to make an informed decision, that isn't going to happen. The reviews are cluttered with a lot of bullshit. The noobs don't rate quality, and they only care about getting the package quickly. But what kind of package. Expensive corn oil with no hormone??? Who knows???

Moving on to the next most popular people leaving reviews called "SHILLS" Now these people are all over the place writing reviews for every damn source and running at least 20 cycles per year from the looks of it. How the hell can they write so many reviews for each different source. You may not know, but some of these people are being paid by the sources to make up several fake accounts using anonymous proxies or VPN and are creating a pretty convincing illusion in the review sections. What you do have to say about that?

Now REPs are a little more difficult to spot. And since I haven't played the online game of e-roids for over 6 months, I won't be able to name them off the top of my head. One user kind of stands out and is the Undertaker from the BS SI page. He was helping people get packs after eroids banned that source. I am not really sure if he is a REP though. If you wanted to make it easier for everyone, why don't you put a REP tag under all those users that are secretly repping for sources???
 
It's the same lame ass business model eroids, PM, OUS and others have been following for years and collecting cash for board owners and gear and some fake ass popularity for reps and shills....it's starting to change,,,, the lazy and dumbest fuckers will start to suffer.....have you visited OUS lately? It's like a ghost town over there.

No I haven't logged into PM and the others for a while. I was just lucky to see this post here at Meso with Roid Noid. Otherwise, it would have been months before I seen it and I wouldn't have had my shot with Roid Noid from E-Crap.

Hopefully, more users that have been screwed over by sources from eroids notice and give Roid Noid some hell.
 
Well if what you say about sources not having mod control to delete posts is true, then the mods are in bed with the sources or the sources have the hot line to mods to make them jump.
You should get to know your audience before you spout off with shit like this. How's zeek and Pinn? We know his name addy and life story.
How do you like my attitude lame?

the only time a MOD deletes a review is when a source says they dont know who the guy is and didnt send out this said gear, in that case we will take into consideration that a may be a troll and attempt to contact this person. if he responds then to bad for the source review stays, if he doesnt respond after 5 days then the review may be removed. he also has to not be a regular member....now maybe what you are talking about is getting flagged for non-review? thats not deleted, but you cant read the review any longer so maybe thats the same in your eyes. there is many reasons for this to happen, but 90% of the time its because a user posts that he received gear and we really dont give a shit if you received gear, its in the rules dont post until you have tried it. other things that are often flagged is guys trying to post about their pack being late when its only been a week, they havent tried to contact source and work it out or figure out that pack is in the mail. No-one wants to hear a bunch of whiny noobs crying about a late pack....Who is zeek and pinn? maybe I know them under a different name, not sure but those names ive never heard of?
 
This is an interesting little quote about MODS not promoting sources which I think is untrue. Eroids Mods receive gear from a great majority of these sources especially new sources, in particular. Mods will frequently post up pictures of this unpaid gear in the pictures sections. If current sources add a new line of gear they will post up pictures of that as well.

The picture part isn't so bad, I like seeing gear pics, but it is the associated reviews that the mods leaves in the sources review section. I have seen several instances where this has occurred. Now, that kind of gives noobs the impression that MODS are promoting sources.

What the hell do you call it when Bodybuilder (mod) says he has tried Fuerza Labs gear and it is G2G in the ukbest review page? There are other instances as well, I would have to log into E-Crap and find them. So do the sources pay the mods in free gear to leave good reviews??? It would seem so from an outsiders point of view.

Sources always offer MODs free gear, on every site! yes I get free gear all the time, the trade off? an honest review! yeah I got some fake omnadrens from neo meds a few months ago and I got some fake karachis from another source about a month ago. and I left reviews. Ive probably told 1000 guys when they ask me i promote sources go do your own homework. sure i post pics and i tell people that I get it for free.
 
You are kinda funny!!! If it were only that easy. We are going to waste a lot of time by you coming over here trying to defend eroids review system and its protection of currently known selective scammers.

Sure the the sources with the SCAM tag are easy to spot. I would have to be a total idiot to order from one of those. We are NOT talking about the sources that screwed people over for longer than 6 months and finally got banned and got the little SCAM tag under their name.

I am talking about current scammers that you know that have scammed in the past and are still on E-roids. Big D comes to mind. He is a fucking lying no good piece of shit and is a selective scammer. You know it and the former Mod 7gothic knows it. 7gothic removed Big D from the rankings for screwing people over. Big D should have a SCAM tag under his name and should be banned just like you banned that other source that you were talking about in a previous post.

As for me being able to read the reviews to make an informed decision, that isn't going to happen. The reviews are cluttered with a lot of bullshit. The noobs don't rate quality, and they only care about getting the package quickly. But what kind of package. Expensive corn oil with no hormone??? Who knows???

Moving on to the next most popular people leaving reviews called "SHILLS" Now these people are all over the place writing reviews for every damn source and running at least 20 cycles per year from the looks of it. How the hell can they write so many reviews for each different source. You may not know, but some of these people are being paid by the sources to make up several fake accounts using anonymous proxies or VPN and are creating a pretty convincing illusion in the review sections. What you do have to say about that?

Now REPs are a little more difficult to spot. And since I haven't played the online game of e-roids for over 6 months, I won't be able to name them off the top of my head. One user kind of stands out and is the Undertaker from the BS SI page. He was helping people get packs after eroids banned that source. I am not really sure if he is a REP though. If you wanted to make it easier for everyone, why don't you put a REP tag under all those users that are secretly repping for sources???

we dont allow secret REPs so no-one is gonna get a REP tag. But I will say this, the time period you are talking about we had a influx of the secret REPs just like you say. sources where making internet buddies and having them fan boy their thread and answer questions and give advice. well because of that we took away all REP privilege's, none of that shit is allowed any longer. A REP like I said we only have like 5 of them now is a guy that is PART of the operation, usually the brewer and knows stock questions.
 
Sources always offer MODs free gear, on every site! yes I get free gear all the time, the trade off? an honest review! yeah I got some fake omnadrens from neo meds a few months ago and I got some fake karachis from another source about a month ago. and I left reviews. Ive probably told 1000 guys when they ask me i promote sources go do your own homework. sure i post pics and i tell people that I get it for free.


I dont promote sources go do your own homework.
 
This is an interesting little quote about MODS not promoting sources which I think is untrue.

Well if what you say about sources not having mod control to delete posts is true, then the mods are in bed with the sources or the sources have the hot line to mods to make them jump.

the only time a MOD deletes a review is when a source says they dont know who the guy is and didnt send out this said gear, in that case we will take into consideration that a may be a troll and attempt to contact this person. if he responds then to bad for the source review stays, if he doesnt respond after 5 days then the review may be removed. he also has to not be a regular member

Thanks for good questions and insight. It's not easy to determine legitimate reviews from trolls. Or to determine biases behind posts. I feel I have it easy at MESO - I just let members decide :popcorn:
 
Personally I think they're all bullshit. I know people who have gotten scammed from alinshop and they're still on there. I also know people who have ordered from napsgear and have gotten their shit, but I also know people who have been scammed from napsgear. I think they're all selective scammers or eventually will take the $$ and run. Theres no shame in this game just gotta find an honorable person (hard to do online) and hope for the best.
 
Sources always offer MODs free gear, on every site! yes I get free gear all the time, the trade off? an honest review! yeah I got some fake omnadrens from neo meds a few months ago and I got some fake karachis from another source about a month ago. and I left reviews. Ive probably told 1000 guys when they ask me i promote sources go do your own homework. sure i post pics and i tell people that I get it for free.

The whole issue of people who have mod powers getting free gear is where a conflict of interest comes into play.

I'm not saying that anyone associated with your board is guilty of that, because I don't know, but that is a situation that plays out daily on open source boards everywhere.
It never seems to work out in favor of the new guy looking for a legit hook up.
 
Personally I think they're all bullshit. I know people who have gotten scammed from alinshop and they're still on there. I also know people who have ordered from napsgear and have gotten their shit, but I also know people who have been scammed from napsgear. I think they're all selective scammers or eventually will take the $$ and run. Theres no shame in this game just gotta find an honorable person (hard to do online) and hope for the best.

Believe it or not there are some guys out there that have been in it for the long haul and value a return customer, but they're hard to find...... Most of them don't advertise on an open source board. IMHO you're right, there is no shame and most of the open sources could pack up with your money and leave tomorrow.
It took me about 2.5 years before I finally started finding some decent guys.
 
Personally I think they're all bullshit. I know people who have gotten scammed from alinshop and they're still on there. I also know people who have ordered from napsgear and have gotten their shit, but I also know people who have been scammed from napsgear. I think they're all selective scammers or eventually will take the $$ and run. Theres no shame in this game just gotta find an honorable person (hard to do online) and hope for the best.


Naps had some issues for sure, they wherent even in our top 50. but a couple months ago they came back on and told anybody with old orders to contact them and they took care of them all. they also threw a promo for 300 members to get $300 worth of free gear. As a matter of fact we just changed the ranking system again and now theres lots of sources giving away free gear in promos. however my point is that if you know someone that has a ticket from naps from up to a couple years ago they are taking care of them right now. you dont have to post or anything just make a account go straight to naps give them your info and they will take care of it.
 
The whole issue of people who have mod powers getting free gear is where a conflict of interest comes into play.

I'm not saying that anyone associated with your board is guilty of that, because I don't know, but that is a situation that plays out daily on open source boards everywhere.
It never seems to work out in favor of the new guy looking for a legit hook up.

Yup. It gives noobs a false sense of security. Of course the gear or gh sent to the mods is gonna be good. The mods give the all good/thumbs up and noobs order away.
When it's gh that's involved big money is stolen. professionalmuscle is notorious for the gh bullshit. The kilo and featured members along with the mods are sent good gh....they post labs that show it's good. Regular members order it up and it's garbage. Thousands and thousands of dollars lost.
Those fucking mods/kilo/featured members know this happens cuz it happens over and over again. When shit starts going south they'll continue to stand behind the source that is giving THEM free and good gh.
Pacman was the latest piece of shit that was allowed to sell shit gh.....that piece of shit osiris is finally banned. He owes that shit IP source a bunch of money. His real ID is finally posted everywhere now.
I was banned for talking shit about pacman before the powers that be had milked it for all they could. They had to sacrifice someone to make shit look legit. Others were also banned the same time I was for predicting what was gonna happen.
I'm sure some hot shot from PM is gonna pop up and talk shit to me....they usually do.
 
I made a post in reference to eroids and directed my disrespectful comments to roid. I was mistaken as I believed that Pinnacle Labs(not the original Pinn that was cracked in 07...he was solid) and the crackhead thief zeek that is one of the owners, was a protected source there. I apologize and respect roid for his not tripping on me and for the PM he sent me.
I was thinking of ology. I will qualify this by saying that I consider ology and eroids to be in the same category as far as protecting sources and getting over on noobs.
I understand that this post is coming off as insincere as far as an apology goes and it is. I just had one of the scamming pieces of shit sources mixed up as far as which pool of chum it feeds on,
 
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