Is PCT needed after 4-6 weeks 10-20mg oxandrolon only (anavar)

[otset83]

Hi y'all, I am seeking information. 40 year old in a semi good condition. Always in moderate shape and always at least moderate training. Never used anything other than amino acid supplements and for some 8 years levothyroxine to treat an underactive thyroid gland. Now middle age is hitting, at least soon, with lower natural production.

Seeking something mild and uncomplicated as addition to training/life since its getting harder and harder to keep up with the other end of life. I was told a short (4-6 weeks) and mild (10-20mg) oxandrolin only would be suitable and natural production would return on its own in 1-3 months after cycle.

I have read that with a short 4-6 week 10-20mg/day oxandrolon only; a post cycle therapy is not needed. Is this correct? What is normal interval between this type of mild cycles for minimal intervention on natural system.

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[Norse13]

This is a woman's dose, you didn't state your gender but I'll assume you're a man since most members are men.
I can't imagine you'll get a net benefit after the pct. Just forget about it.

I'm here to learn, if some other members can explain why this would be brilliant, I'll stfu and reconsider.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Yeah, Norse13 had it right. You probably wouldn't need PCT, but you wouldn't get much from that low of a dose anyway.

 

[otset83]

Thanks lads. Yes. Male.

Dose and further reading I found in Anabolics book by William Llewellyn.

Only looking for a mild plus effect since decent shape. Maybe a hint of curiosity as well. Any other thoughts on a mild and uncomplicated?

 

[Juiceduptothemax]

Your 40 years old you should just be on trt

 

[otset83]

Your 40 years old you should just be on trt

Sadly over here this is not available as a legal therapy; as in many countries. Anyhow many thanks.

 

[Gixjon22]

Sadly over here this is not available as a legal therapy; as in many countries. Anyhow many thanks.

So var is legal there then ya? The dose youre talking about seems pointless. Oral only cycles are for teenagers to dumb to know better. Anavar is a very mild anabolic and i highly doubt youll notice any strength or muscle gain. Other than some pumps you might feel.

 

[God&Gainz]

Just don't touch gear if you are gonna run 10-20mgs of Var lol. Not worth compromising your natural test production for something so trivial.

Now if you were gonna run at least 50-75 still not smart without a test base but you would at least have an argument.

 

[Jiobani]

Don't bother with this. Will be a waste of your time and will not benefit you at all.

If you want to do something, you will need test.. If you don't want to pin, steroids aren't for you. Everything else is just a bad advice

 

[Norse13]

@otset83 Just to put some context, and explain why we're not being dickheads for endorsing your minicycle -

There is no such thing as a truly mild cycle. Once you inject or ingest steroids, your natural testosterone production will shut down. If you inject just a small amount of steroids, you'll still shut down your own production. This is a pretty big thing, especially in your 40s (Im 48), as there is a fair chance that your body will never restart production to the level you had before. So you're stuck until end of days with reduced test.

The period after you stop steroids until your own production is back online, is not a glorious period in your life. Depression and loss of muscle mass is common.

Therefore - the cycle needs to be strong enough to give muscle growth worth the hassle and risk.

When we talk of mild cycles, we usually mean steroids with low side effects (e.g. primobolan), in relatively low doses. But your own test production is still shut down.

You can PCT, which had lower success the older you are, or just accept fate and switch to TRT like many of us have. Feel 10 years younger, better fitness, probably some negative health effects too.

 

[Highly ecto]

Hi y'all, I am seeking information. 40 year old in a semi good condition. Always in moderate shape and always at least moderate training. Never used anything other than amino acid supplements and for some 8 years levothyroxine to treat an underactive thyroid gland. Now middle age is hitting, at least soon, with lower natural production.

Seeking something mild and uncomplicated as addition to training/life since its getting harder and harder to keep up with the other end of life. I was told a short (4-6 weeks) and mild (10-20mg) oxandrolin only would be suitable and natural production would return on its own in 1-3 months after cycle.

I have read that with a short 4-6 week 10-20mg/day oxandrolon only; a post cycle therapy is not needed. Is this correct? What is normal interval between this type of mild cycles for minimal intervention on natural system.

Any help would be much appreciated

l am a 55 years old and like you a life long natty. The best advice l could give you is pick 1 of these 2 choices.
1. Stay natty, get your diet spot on and take a few select supplements to optimize your natural Test production. l can help you with these if your interested.
2. Commit to TRT, with an option to blast and cruise and enjoy the extra benefits you will get.
Running short low dose cycles is the worst possible option you could choose, because you will get minimal results and make your natural Test production worse than it already is. Don't go this route.

 

[Leg_locker]

Sadly over here this is not available as a legal therapy; as in many countries. Anyhow many thanks.

If your going the UGL route for the anavar then just buy test instead and do your own TRT

 

[Norse13]

@otset83 another comment - most guys who consider an oral only (tablets, not BJs) cycle do it for few reasons -

Fear of injections. Don't know how to do it, feels like a fucking junkie. Next level is heroin and crack. Don't worry, it's not difficult, and I never bought crack. Or heroin. My wife injects me twice or thrice a week, or I do it myself if she's not around.

Think that tablets are healthier than injectables. Simply not true. Most tablets, including anavar, need to go through a process called c17-aa to allow the drug to pass through your liver without the liver breaking down the drug on the first pass. This is heavy on your liver, among the reasons that orals are not favoured in large doses over long period of time.

Think that injectables are much stronger, will make you massively big in weeks and all your family and colleagues will call you out for steroid use. Not true. I wish it was, but it isn't. Some tablets give very big effect, anadrol, superdrol etc. If you're concerned of getting too big, too quick, just reduce the weekly dosage to what suits you.

If you do get too big, too quick, please tell us how you did it because I want to copy your secret.

In the end, just but testosterone enantate or cypionate, inject yourself twice weekly for 12-15 weeks. And then hop on trt

 

[otset83]

Thanks all of you. Do you have any good readings about TRT? Especially Norse13.

I asked once my endocrine doctor, that I see for underactive thyroid, about low testosterone treatment and he just said it wasn't needed to treat low testosterone and not done. Only post cancer treatment.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Thanks all of you. Do you have any good readings about TRT? Especially Norse13.

I asked once my endocrine doctor, that I see for underactive thyroid, about low testosterone treatment and he just said it wasn't needed to treat low testosterone and not done. Only post cancer treatment.

Many doctors are just not up to speed yet on hormone science. Its hard to find a good one. Many of us started down the doctor path but eventually learned enough about our own bloodwork to administer it ourselves.