Is recovery from blast and cruise even possible?

[IrishJuice]

If someone has blasted and cruised for several years is it possible to ever recover from it?

I have read countless forums where a recovery log was started just to find out they never recovered.

The only log I ever seen that worked was jay monks (birdienumum) on here.

Would there be even a point of trying after 4 years of blast and cruise or would you just accept the fact your on trt for life and move on?

 

[kosp]

4 years of blast and cruise = 4 years of PCT.

Do you have what it takes? lol

 

[Aftermath9716]

The obvious answer BLOODWORK but for the majority it will depend entirely on your age 40+ probably trt for life under that PCT.

 

[IrishJuice]

4 years of blast and cruise = 4 years of PCT.

Do you have what it takes? lol

I don't think I could go through life for 4 years trying to recover.

Would it really take 4 years? and even after that I suppose recovery would be far from guaranteed?

Probably a safer bet just to accept loving by the needle than 4 years of pure hell hahaha

 

[Aftermath9716]

Pretty sure he's being sarcastic.

 

[kosp]

no, it has been already discussed around here, it takes years doing PCT drugs to recover from a B&C, and most likely about the same time you were ON as a minimum, or even slightly more.

I am grateful to know these things beforehand, that´s why it is useful to read in forums.

 

[pigeonhed]

Recovery of spermatogenesis following testosterone replacement therapy or anabolic-androgenic steroid use

Suppressed Testicular Function 'Mostly Reversible' After Steroid Abuse

Good reads that have excellent information on suppression and recovery.

 

[Aftermath9716]

4 years of clomid and or Tamoxifen holy shit... well good luck

 

[IrishJuice]

no, it has been already discussed around here, it takes years doing PCT drugs to recover from a B&C, and most likely about the same time you were ON as a minimum, or even slightly more.

I am grateful to know these things beforehand, that´s why it is useful to read in forums.

The only successful log I've ever seen was @BirdieNumNum (jay monks) who was PCTing for years from what I recall. I've been trying to get in touch with him for some advice but nothing yet.


Thanks for the replies guys. Was hoping for more upbeat replies but figured I was fucked anyways haha.

Was stocking up on HCG to attempt a recovery. Not sure which way to approach this now lol

 

[IrishJuice]

4 years of clomid and or Tamoxifen holy shit... well good luck

I couldn't begin to imagine the side effects of clomid after 4 years

 

[IrishJuice]

Recovery of spermatogenesis following testosterone replacement therapy or anabolic-androgenic steroid use

Suppressed Testicular Function 'Mostly Reversible' After Steroid Abuse

Good reads that have excellent information on suppression and recovery.

Thanks very much man.

 

[kosp]

I think it is worth a try. Do 1 year of PCT and have a resilient attitude about it, and see how it is going. Believe you can do it.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Trial and error. Several futile attempts at recovery with a 'regular' pct. Beggining Long term hcg is when I almost accepted i was fucked, but the proofs in the pudding.

 

[Jedi21]

Hi, I'm new here so forgive me for asking: what side effects are you talking about?

I've just read several studies on PubMed, saying Clomid is safe and well tolerated even in the long term.

 

[al'sameesh]

Hi, I'm new here so forgive me for asking: what side effects are you talking about?

I've just read several studies on PubMed, saying Clomid is safe and well tolerated even in the long term.

It can make you feel a bit off in various ways. Alot of people experience it as being overly emotional. I just find it makes me feel strange in a slightly uncomfortable way. Headaches and sleeplessness can occur too.

Often for PCT usage you see steroid users taking very large dosages, like 150-200 mg. This is not evidence based and probably why some feel so crappy on clomid.

Finally, if taken over long periods of time and in rare cases, there are vision side effects. The estrogen antagonism prevents certain cells in your eyes from functioning correctly.

I personally prefer nolvadex/tamoxifen.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Go see a doctor! Why is everyone afraid of the doctor? Endocrinologists specialize in this shit. You could probably do it all by perscription and actual blood work. And if not you get on trt which they can also manage. I see a endo dr and get bloods a few times per year. He told me outright that he wont help me with the superphysiological stuff but he will keep me healthy.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

How’s the spuds doing yo

 

[IrishJuice]

How’s the spuds doing yo

All was going well until today. My package which had some more Hcg has been seized .

This should be interesting.....

 

[Theworm]

I am a member of peak testosterone; there was a fellow there that blogged his whole journey and ultimately failed after a few years and his conclusion was what a waste of 2 years of his life, etc.

He did extensive research and found almost zero cases of bounce back to normal levels. The only people who did had normal levels to begin with. That is, if you are prescribed test for low T, basically you have zero chance of getting off trt or blasts and cruise and get normal T levels.

My TT was 350 in my 20s, and despite that I have tried 10 failed pcts over the last 8 years but glad I’ve tried to know

 

[OmL]

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