Is recovery from blast and cruise even possible?

[Theworm]

Wow 2 in a row who feel better off?
I feel amazing on 500 test and 500 deca, like Superman. Off I feel like a 90 year old man

 

[Demondosage]

I call bullshit. It makes a nice story though

 

[IrishJuice]

I call bullshit. It makes a nice story though

You call bullshit that you won't recover after B&C?

 

[skippinglegday]

I feel better with endogenous T (specifically libido) than when I had supraphisiological levels with exogenous T.

It's fucked up but I feel the same way... libido is always better on auto-pilot (natural) than on cruise where I have to manage my hormones. And yes everything is in check, E2, TT, prolactin, SHBG, etc... there's something more complex to it. We don't know with certainty which numbers our body prefers to stay at and for how long at a time. There are a million factors. It's mind-boggling.

Libido on blast is a different kind of beast though. That one is obvious.

 

[janoshik]

It's fucked up but I feel the same way... libido is always better on auto-pilot (natural) than on cruise where I have to manage my hormones. And yes everything is in check, E2, TT, prolactin, SHBG, etc... there's something more complex to it. We don't know with certainty which numbers our body prefers to stay at and for how long at a time. There are a million factors. It's mind-boggling.

Libido on blast is a different kind of beast though. That one is obvious.

I always felt like shit blasting. Always tired.

Cruise been meh as well. Honestly, natty is overall the best feeling for me too.

 

[skippinglegday]

I always felt like shit blasting. Always tired.

Cruise been meh as well. Honestly, natty is overall the best feeling for me too.

What were your blasts like during your 20's? I personally stick to a healthier approach like test/primo/anavar, 2iu hgh, never done 19nors or anything crazy and i probably still look better than 90% of people taking gear. I prioritize feeling good on blast rather than being strong as fuck or huge as fuck.

 

[Theworm]

Y’all natural TT must be high then

 

[janoshik]

What were your blasts like during your 20's? I personally stick to a healthier approach like test/primo/anavar, 2iu hgh, never done 19nors or anything crazy and i probably still look better than 90% of people taking gear. I prioritize feeling good on blast rather than being strong as fuck or huge as fuck.

I'd be lying if I said I remember it to the dot now.
Been a while so take me with a grain of salt.

I usually stuck to high test (1-1.5 g /wk) + anadrol (50 mg/d), which worked the best for me. Added a thing here and there.

Fun thing, moderate dose of var wrecked my lipids way faster than the above.

On one blast I tried high GH (10iu/d) and fast acting slin (up to 40 ius / d).
Priority was being strong as fuck and god, lord knows it worked.

That was a fun run, adding a few plates to my total within 3 months.
Eating 6 hours a day, shitting for 2 and sleeping for 14 was not so much fun, though, and that's when I figured that sorta career ain't for me.

Didn't want to end up on stims just to function, nor spend so much time doing that and kinda felt like having kids, so I went off.

 

[EnhancedFormerAthlete]

I'd be lying if I said I remember it to the dot now.
Been a while so take me with a grain of salt.

I usually stuck to high test (1-1.5 g /wk) + anadrol (50 mg/d), which worked the best for me. Added a thing here and there.

Fun thing, moderate dose of var wrecked my lipids way faster than the above.

On one blast I tried high GH (10iu/d) and fast acting slin (up to 40 ius / d).
Priority was being strong as fuck and god, lord knows it worked.

That was a fun run, adding a few plates to my total within 3 months.
Eating 6 hours a day, shitting for 2 and sleeping for 14 was not so much fun, though, and that's when I figured that sorta career ain't for me.

Didn't want to end up on stims just to function, nor spend so much time doing that and kinda felt like having kids, so I went off.

Geez dude lol. A gram of test and Anadrol? My eyes would have burst from my skull during a workout mind you I’ve only ever done “performance athlete” type cycles, so my doses are probably minuscule compared to most people on here. That being said. When I keep my test right around 300 it’s a better focus drug than adderall ever was plus the well being aspect. I don’t think I’ve ever gone high enough dose to feel that exhaustion.

 

[janoshik]

Geez dude lol. A gram of test and Anadrol? My eyes would have burst from my skull during a workout mind you I’ve only ever done “performance athlete” type cycles, so my doses are probably minuscule compared to most people on here. That being said. When I keep my test right around 300 it’s a better focus drug than adderall ever was plus the well being aspect. I don’t think I’ve ever gone high enough dose to feel that exhaustion.

Well, most of my blasts were just 500 test, but as I got to 5/4/6 plates that didn't seem to cut it anymore. Getting more sleep or focusing on lifting more would probably help just as well as raising the dose, but who has the time for that along studies and having a business?

I certainly don't condone my approach to things, especially now, with 20/20 hindsight.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

It's fucked up but I feel the same way... libido is always better on auto-pilot (natural) than on cruise where I have to manage my hormones. And yes everything is in check, E2, TT, prolactin, SHBG, etc... there's something more complex to it. We don't know with certainty which numbers our body prefers to stay at and for how long at a time. There are a million factors. It's mind-boggling.

Libido on blast is a different kind of beast though. That one is obvious.

Logical really. If your body is doing it all itself, then there’s nothing the body could identify as a problem.
Greater sense of well-being.

 

[Theworm]

Don’t y’all miss shooting 500 test and 500 deca and hitting the gym?
I guess I’m addicted

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Yes it’s very enjoyable, I really enjoyed it to be fair.

 

[IrishJuice]

Yes it’s very enjoyable, I really enjoyed it to be fair.

Do you think you will ever cycle again?

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Do you think you will ever cycle again?

Nah I don’t think I will.

 

[kosp]

Nah I don’t think I will.

not really worth it unless you plan TRT.

 

[Jstone2]

The biggest factors to recovery is genetics, and time. Some people recover without pct, because they're genetically gifted. I have a buddy who blasted not really cruised for a couple years, and his latest bloodwork came back in the mid 600s. He is 38 years old. My dad thought he was low t at 60 his test was in the high 600s doctor prescribed him test based on symptoms, and he got tired of doing the shot quit about 6 months in, and about 6 months later was back in the high 500 range. He may have got back to the high 600s, but never tested again. He was ok being at 500s with no shots.

If you do not have good genetics for recovery time is the key. It may take years. I wouldn't pct the whole time, because that will become suppressive as well. Run an aggressive pct like a power pct and give it time. Get bloods every 12 weeks or so, and you should see your levels begin to come back. Will you be ok with the recovery probably not, it will probably be on the low end, and after years of having above average levels you wont like being low.

 

[Jstone2]

It's fucked up but I feel the same way... libido is always better on auto-pilot (natural) than on cruise where I have to manage my hormones. And yes everything is in check, E2, TT, prolactin, SHBG, etc... there's something more complex to it. We don't know with certainty which numbers our body prefers to stay at and for how long at a time. There are a million factors. It's mind-boggling.

Libido on blast is a different kind of beast though. That one is obvious.

On a proper trt or cruise dose none of those hormones you mentioned need to be managed. Trt or cruise should just put your t levels to a reasonable number where there is no need to manage anything. If one of those values is out of range your trt or cruise dose is to high. Should those levels be monitored? Of course, but there should be no need for chemical intervention to manage them.

If your e2 is out of range you should lower the test, not add in a toxic AI. Trt or cruise implies most of the year. Trt or cruise should not include AI most of the year. That is a backwards approach to a cruise or trt. If you want your levels that high just accept your on a mini blast year round.

 

[Roco Bama]

It is possible. I was shut down for 6 years. after some hcg shots and 8 weeks of enclomiphen, I was able to bring my FSH and LH levels to a healthy range.

 

[skippinglegday]

It is possible. I was shut down for 6 years. after some hcg shots and 8 weeks of enclomiphen, I was able to bring my FSH and LH levels to a healthy range.
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Did you run hcg throughout those 6 years or not?