Roco Bama
Well-known Member
No I never bothered using hcg
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Is recovery from blast and cruise even possible?
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BirdieNumNum
Banned
Fuck that shit bro. Naturally MAN enough without that crap.
testaholic
Member
yes, its possible. didn't read earlier in the thread, but a few items of note-
- if you had low T in the first place, you will only "recover" to those levels you previously had. if anything, your baseline will probably be lower due to you being older and endogenous production trailing off simply as a function of age (not necessarily AAS induced hypogonadism). that being said, you will not "recover" to "higher" levels than you had pre-cycle.
- time on =/= time off or any shit like that. but it'll take a while. 6-12 months prob
- if you recently ran a 19nor, dont even bother PCTing until a good 1-2 years have passed - they're just that suppressive. run test / cruise / less nefarious compounds/ doses until that time has passed
- follow specific protocols recommended for this, not the decade old bro-lore. ive seen quite a handful of people recover from decade long BNCs, but they were armed with years of AAS experience and didn't pull their protocol off a single post on meso. it will take some research and a more nuanced understanding of pharmacology/biochemisty to really nail this down
- consider running HCG during BNC in moderate doses. not so much to desensitize your receptors, but enough to prevent testicular atrophy. atrophy represents permanent loss of function, and there are studies that show that long term HCG use does not "downregulate" LH or anything like that. there are other compounds you can consider as well (HMG, recombinant FSH), but those are pricier although they are prob more effective as well
- if you had low T in the first place, you will only "recover" to those levels you previously had. if anything, your baseline will probably be lower due to you being older and endogenous production trailing off simply as a function of age (not necessarily AAS induced hypogonadism). that being said, you will not "recover" to "higher" levels than you had pre-cycle.
- time on =/= time off or any shit like that. but it'll take a while. 6-12 months prob
- if you recently ran a 19nor, dont even bother PCTing until a good 1-2 years have passed - they're just that suppressive. run test / cruise / less nefarious compounds/ doses until that time has passed
- follow specific protocols recommended for this, not the decade old bro-lore. ive seen quite a handful of people recover from decade long BNCs, but they were armed with years of AAS experience and didn't pull their protocol off a single post on meso. it will take some research and a more nuanced understanding of pharmacology/biochemisty to really nail this down
- consider running HCG during BNC in moderate doses. not so much to desensitize your receptors, but enough to prevent testicular atrophy. atrophy represents permanent loss of function, and there are studies that show that long term HCG use does not "downregulate" LH or anything like that. there are other compounds you can consider as well (HMG, recombinant FSH), but those are pricier although they are prob more effective as well
steckdose0
Member
i'll be on test for the rest of my life and i don't really give a shit. i love it.
the only thing i kind of envy in natural guys is they never have to worry about finding a good source, blood work, lab tests, balancing your hormones, etc. but i guess that's the price you pay when you wanna play this game we play.
the only thing i kind of envy in natural guys is they never have to worry about finding a good source, blood work, lab tests, balancing your hormones, etc. but i guess that's the price you pay when you wanna play this game we play.
testaholic
Member
do tell
I think if you’re going to recover you’ll recover regardless whether you take pct or not. I think the younger you are you have a higher chance of recovery and if you’re older you should just get on trt. I personally would not and never have done pct.
testaholic
Member
I actually dont disagree. but I do think PCT can help ease that transition
IrishJuice
New Member
I stopped a 5 year BnC in November 2021.
Feel great. Still need to get bloods done but won't until Ocotber (heading on vacation to the states in September for 2 weeks and don't want a number fuckimg with my head. Even if my test is low right now I still feel great so why ruin it?)
Stopped taking anything in June 2021 and started running 1000 hcg eod until the start of November. After that ran Clomid and Nolva 50/50/50/50 and 40/40/40/20/20. First 4 weeks anxiety was bad and energy levels libido at an all time low.
Now I've no anxiety. Back at the gym full steam ahead and libido noticeably increasing each week.
The balls have got much bigger but still growing.
Will keep updating with any major changes and will 100% upload bloods in October
Feel great. Still need to get bloods done but won't until Ocotber (heading on vacation to the states in September for 2 weeks and don't want a number fuckimg with my head. Even if my test is low right now I still feel great so why ruin it?)
Stopped taking anything in June 2021 and started running 1000 hcg eod until the start of November. After that ran Clomid and Nolva 50/50/50/50 and 40/40/40/20/20. First 4 weeks anxiety was bad and energy levels libido at an all time low.
Now I've no anxiety. Back at the gym full steam ahead and libido noticeably increasing each week.
The balls have got much bigger but still growing.
Will keep updating with any major changes and will 100% upload bloods in October
kosp
Member
Healthier than last time.
IrishJuice
New Member
In the best shape I've been in years (cardiovascular that is)
Lost some muscle but thought it would have been much more.
All in all I'm happy where I'm at for the moment.
Will give a proper detailed report when I've bloods done in a few months.
Will never touch the roids again
Theworm
Well-known Member
Why never touch them again?
Theworm
Well-known Member
I see this a lot, where people come off long blasts and cruises with the help of several months of high hcg. Maybe it’s much more superior than the 20 days or so used in the power pct protocol...
IrishJuice
New Member
I don't have self control when it comes to steroids.
IrishJuice
New Member
Yeah I planned on doing more but the rest of my HCG got seized. Seems like lower dosage, longer duration is something to look into when recovering from a very long BNC
I took @BirdieNumNum advice on that.
IrishJuice
New Member
How long where you on cycle?
How long did it take to recover?
TrenTrenTren
Member
By "pudding", you're referring to your semen, right?
I made blast and cruise for 2,5 years the a long pct and i recovered.
Later i made again blast and cruise for 1,5 years and recovered again
Both case i made around 12 weeks on clomid (always used hcg low dose during blast and cruise) i returned at 320 ng test..
Full recover used around 4 months i arrived @ 460 ng test.
50 y old.
Theworm
Well-known Member
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