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Is there trouble in China. Sources are moving
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I hadn't started a thread or posted what I heard because I simply don't know how true it is. I have people I trust for things going on in and around our country. China? Its like a different planet nevermind country with the language barrier.
I was told that the Chinese are working hand in hand with a group of agents from the USA to search and look for any signs of fentanyl and any other illegal substances that are around. These factories have to have licenses to manufacture raw sterioid powders and a different license to make finished gear. Many do not.
I was told workers can be seen scrubbing away different machines that held any of these substances because if even traces of an illegal substance is found the place is shut down and all inside are arrested. This includes workers hired at insanely low wages.
The reason its taken so seriously is because when the Chinese arrest you its the end of the road. Not many are seen or heard from again. These aren't prisons like those found in the USA. These are hard labor camps that all ages must be actively working in. In the prisons here once you get to age 40 or 45 you aren't required to "Put in work". Different than the work in chinese prisons but work nonetheless.
Hopefully it will go back too business as usual when the USA LE beats feet out of there like it was with Operation Gear Grinder. The Federales in Mexico worked with the USA to shut down the Mexican manufacturers of Vet steroids. They really were after Ketamine that the same factories that made the steroids operated. We left and back to business as usual.
Same happened in China when Beijing hosted the Olympics. Its all about appearances for the Chinese.
I was told that the Chinese are working hand in hand with a group of agents from the USA to search and look for any signs of fentanyl and any other illegal substances that are around. These factories have to have licenses to manufacture raw sterioid powders and a different license to make finished gear. Many do not.
I was told workers can be seen scrubbing away different machines that held any of these substances because if even traces of an illegal substance is found the place is shut down and all inside are arrested. This includes workers hired at insanely low wages.
The reason its taken so seriously is because when the Chinese arrest you its the end of the road. Not many are seen or heard from again. These aren't prisons like those found in the USA. These are hard labor camps that all ages must be actively working in. In the prisons here once you get to age 40 or 45 you aren't required to "Put in work". Different than the work in chinese prisons but work nonetheless.
Hopefully it will go back too business as usual when the USA LE beats feet out of there like it was with Operation Gear Grinder. The Federales in Mexico worked with the USA to shut down the Mexican manufacturers of Vet steroids. They really were after Ketamine that the same factories that made the steroids operated. We left and back to business as usual.
Same happened in China when Beijing hosted the Olympics. Its all about appearances for the Chinese.
Ghoul
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Irrespective of what's happening to suppliers on the Chinese side, the biggest impact will be from the ending of the last decade of remarkably porous customs enforcement of mail in the US. The system wasn't prepared for the number of packs from China doubling every two years to well over a billion annually now, thanks to the "de minimus" loophole.
99% of mailed parcels from China bypass customs inspection altogether because customs just doesn't have the capacity.
There was a reason you couldn't simply have cheap steroids shipped from China to your house 20 years ago, and it's going to return to that. The Chinese know this and have been quietly preparing alternate routes for a while. All these "US Warehouses" haven't been popping up because they're dedicated to good customer service.
99% of mailed parcels from China bypass customs inspection altogether because customs just doesn't have the capacity.
There was a reason you couldn't simply have cheap steroids shipped from China to your house 20 years ago, and it's going to return to that. The Chinese know this and have been quietly preparing alternate routes for a while. All these "US Warehouses" haven't been popping up because they're dedicated to good customer service.
clearheaded
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yup USA will now have non porous borders under the new republic order! more jail so can meet the per capita imprisonment only seen in other republics like china or USSR... lol the bros that came out dont know what they are getting...
Ghoul
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Gaining control over the massive increase in untaxed packages from China under the de minimus rule, along with the contraband that's easily hidden among them is a broadly supported bipartisan issue, and isn't particularly focused on steroids. There have been hundreds of hearings and meetings hammering out the upcoming legislation that's certain to pass with overwhelming support. 2 months ago Biden issued executive orders which will tighten things down significantly, that are going through the comment process before being put into action in few months.
Please don't inject emotionally driven political opinions into this when you "clearly" don't know anything about the topic.
clearheaded
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you "clearly" missed the point and injected a subjective view... at any rate yes wrong forum.
Well, I saw a memo from Sigma Audley(SSA) to one of their clients. It said they were permanently suspending the production/sale of raw steroid piwders, tablets, oils, and Sarms.
I don't get out often and I may be late to the party. This may already be widely known? If it's not, I wonder if there will be others following suit? Will India step in to fill the void. There's a lot of money that's gonna be left on the table. I'm thinking this will just be a temp thing?
Back in 2004 when Operation Gear Grinder stopped the production of Vet steroids in Mexico the Chinese stepped up to usher in the UGL era here in the USA. Is India ready take over?
I don't get out often and I may be late to the party. This may already be widely known? If it's not, I wonder if there will be others following suit? Will India step in to fill the void. There's a lot of money that's gonna be left on the table. I'm thinking this will just be a temp thing?
Back in 2004 when Operation Gear Grinder stopped the production of Vet steroids in Mexico the Chinese stepped up to usher in the UGL era here in the USA. Is India ready take over?
Hell even qsc just said they cant get raws to their us warehouses and if u want something better get it now! The only thing they wont worry about is their gh as they said they produce their own….
Tirz and other peptides maybe ok… but time will tell
narta
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India can only sell raws to those who have a legit pharma license. Trust me I tried.
Don't know how hard it's to get one. I believe that India is corrupt and easy to buy people. A source will have money and interest to obtain one.
But Tracy said that raws from India are shit but it must be someone who produces good one. Pharma companies get raws from drugs from India
nightprowler7
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I would assume a Chinese raw supplier would talk shit about an Indian one. Why would you not try to keep people from your competitors? This is the ave people don’t think about. OF COURSE Q has incentive to increase the panic buying. His competitors are being arrested one by one, Why would you not want to corner the market AND have less concern about law enforcement when you have nearly nothing on hand anymore from all the panic buying.
I swear, people forget these sources are business men. They care about money, not making sure Joe smith from Arkansas gets enough testosterone in time.
I’m not talking shit about Q, I use him…I like him. But he’s a business man. Open your eyes.
That was discussed in 2019 and 2021 when there was also a problem with raws. 2019 with sarms bann and 2021 with dht steroids. It gives you some similar vibes with what it is now and it gives some info about India used as suppliers if China stop selling.
Basically it will be the same as it is now only maybe cost more than now.
There are a few screenshots but give it a read and don't panic.
Basically it will be the same as it is now only maybe cost more than now.
There are a few screenshots but give it a read and don't panic.
SpicyMeatball
Member
As a rule manufacturers of everything besides curry powders in India are inferior to china. There are good reasons you don’t see “made in India” on many products. They just aren’t set up to churn out quality manufactured goods (including PEDs), and their culture of customer service doesn’t lend itself to generally positive working relationships with international business partners. They’re famously difficult to work with and quality is a nightmare no matter what you’re having made there.
Maybe if they get some Chinese managers in there to set things up it could be workable
DugPrime
Member
I'm wondering if the shutdown of all these Chinese company will he permanent. It's impossible to find material raw at the moment.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
Yes it isn't, or then again, maybe it won't.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
Sure. "Agents" in the US have had thousands of opportunities, after customs seizes raws in packages, to make easy busts. Instead, they send love letters, and, in what must be a humiliating public acknowledgment of subservience to US power by our enemy, is allowed to go after Chinese companies and citizens on Chinese soil.
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Trenloverboy
New Member
All this is great to know, but scary.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
Nothing to worry about.
Things will be back on track long before that year's worth of supplies we've all put away in case of a rainy day runs out...
They naivety of many ppl around here amaze me, they think their favourite source is their friend and they believe anything they say instead of reading between the lines or being aware they are business men first and showman secondly when they write here
Smoke and mirror and keep the cash flowing.
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Trenloverboy
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Man thank you for that.. definitely have stock that’s very deep, just worry about resellers..
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