Is this a controlled delivery?

[Krimzun]

Update? Very interested in this...

An update would be, even with all the test I'm on, I still haven't grown the balls to open it yet lol.

I'm just sitting on the package for now with return to sender written on it. When I finally do open I'll let you know if all is well and I was just being paranoid.

FYI, based on some reading on L.E. procedures, it seems I flagged myself by using a fake name. That coupled with the return to sender info is fake is more than enough to flag the shit out of a package.

Also the standard procedure for a wired package seems to be to put it into a new sealed fake pack, and not try to reseal all sloppily the old pack, because they wouldn't want to make it obvious. So that's reassuring.

I just don't understand how they knew what it was last time but not this time. Maybe the guy who opened it this time was just lazy? Kind of like I BS/good enough my job sometimes when I'm just not feeling it.

Either way I'm going to stick to domestic from here on out. Seems like they need a warrant to open those, and they need enough probable cause to get one. Enough probable cause seems to be two wrong things, again like a fake name coupled with a fake return to sender, or a fake name with a dog signaling the pack. So never use a fake name.

I've actually got a domestic order on the way with my real name, luckily I learned that before placing that one. So I may wait until that one arrives and looks gtg, to open this one.

 

[QueenBee]

An update would be, even with all the test I'm on, I still haven't grown the balls to open it yet lol.

I'm just sitting on the package for now with return to sender written on it. When I finally do open I'll let you know if all is well and I was just being paranoid.

FYI, based on some reading on L.E. procedures, it seems I flagged myself by using a fake name. That coupled with the return to sender info is fake is more than enough to flag the shit out of a package.

Also the standard procedure for a wired package seems to be to put it into a new sealed fake pack, and not try to reseal all sloppily the old pack, because they wouldn't want to make it obvious. So that's reassuring.

I just don't understand how they knew what it was last time but not this time. Maybe the guy who opened it this time was just lazy? Kind of like I BS/good enough my job sometimes when I'm just not feeling it.

Either way I'm going to stick to domestic from here on out. Seems like they need a warrant to open those, and they need enough probable cause to get one. Enough probable cause seems to be two wrong things, again like a fake name coupled with a fake return to sender, or a fake name with a dog signaling the pack. So never use a fake name.

I've actually got a domestic order on the way with my real name, luckily I learned that before placing that one. So I may wait until that one arrives and looks gtg, to open this one.

Yes never international unless you send to a different address.

 

[DILLIGAF]

If it's a controlled delivery they will deliver it in person and take you down soon as you accept as they will most likely already have a search warrant. Apparently now they have electronic signalling devices they put in the package to let them know it's been opened too but once you find that you're fucked anyway. If it's been opened and resealed and says FDA on it you're probably fine. They more than likely just picked it off randomly and did a swab to check for narcotics.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

i think it's safe to open. You already took possession of it, you're all in now anyway.

Not like there's a white van sitting half way up the block waiting days for you to open this thing so that they can bum rush you.

 

[master.on]

What was the shipping method?

A lot of international sources use options that require signature.

Often the sticky not can be signed and left on the door so they deliver it the next day.

Unlike most bodybuilders, normal people have day jobs and aren't home during the day. So signing the sticky note is fine.

 

[Sk8man101]

If they wanted you OP they'd already have you.

This situation is why I liked my PO box for a long time.

 

[bigrobbie]

If they wanted you OP they'd already have you.

This situation is why I liked my PO box for a long time.

I have to agree with this, I really don't see them waiting all this time to bust your ass. If you were recieving kgs of raws maybe you'd be worth the wait but considering whats in ur pack my opinion is your gtg.

 

[Krimzun]

Ok so an update is I just got 2(not 1) letters in the mail from customs stating that I had a package seized and they know it contained test. I only had one package seized though. The other I have unopened still.

The letters look like duplicates but have different reference #'s. Interestingly, they also "coincidentally?" are dated the same day that they first attempted the delivery of the package I have in possession unopened.

Is it normal to get 2 seizure letters for one package being seized? If not do you think this one was actually seized and they put dummy stuff inside plus like one real vial and are just waiting for me to open it?

I still have to wonder why they knew the last one was test but not this one, when I know they were identical packs. Them writing FDA on is like they're telling me "hey we searched this". If it being obviously opened wasn't enough of a sign.

The BIG question is considering I know they searched this one, how come they found nothing this time, but did find test in the last pack...?

 

[lifter6973]

OMG brah- just open it already- if they were going to bust your ass they would have done it by now- I dont think its smart that you are getting gear sent domestic like you posted a ways back though- like I said, I think it is a warning to knock it off- I would not be getting anything illegal sent to your addy domestic or int for a while

 

[LeoTC]

The letters happen, the letters go in the bin. Open the fucking pack or toss it already.

You're going to have a stroke if you keep stressing and dancing around it.

 

[bigrobbie]

The letters happen, the letters go in the bin. Open the fucking pack or toss it already.

You're going to have a stroke if you keep stressing and dancing around it.

X2

 

[Pokey]

Just open it all ready if ur fucked it’s to late cops won’t wait for u to open it they will just raid upr pad to see wht u have and they haven’t

 

[KillaBig]

Have gotten 3 letters in the past and one after ordering from basic, which I’ll never do again or international for that fact.With the way things are these days international especially to the west coast is sketchy and hit and miss.
Domestic is the best bet

 

[Cityofgrit]

Open the package and pin the shit already.

 

[Krimzun]

The letters happen, the letters go in the bin. Open the fucking pack or toss it already.

You're going to have a stroke if you keep stressing and dancing around it.

Open the package and pin the shit already.

LOL ok ok. I finally grew a pair and opened it.

I'm not in jail obviously, so looks like I was just being paranoid.

The domestic order arrived just fine too, and that helped ease my worries as well. I had already placed that order before this whole signature fiasco.

Anyways, thanks everyone. I feel kinda like a fool now haha. But really I'm happy to be just a fool, rather than a fool who's in jail.

My family wouldn't be able to handle that, without me there's no income. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I let my own insecurities risk my families well being. So forgive me if I was a little worried.

 

[lifter6973]

LOL ok ok. I finally grew a pair and opened it.

I'm not in jail obviously, so looks like I was just being paranoid.

The domestic order arrived just fine too, and that helped ease my worries as well. I had already placed that order before this whole signature fiasco.

Anyways, thanks everyone. I feel kinda like a fool now haha. But really I'm happy to be just a fool, rather than a fool who's in jail.

My family wouldn't be able to handle that, without me there's no income. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I let myown insecurities risk my families well being. So forgive me if I was a little worried.

thats good- Im paranoid as fuck too- better safe than sorry- save yourself some worry and lay low for a while or at the very least dont order international for a while- the domestic pack making it with no issues or anything suspicious with the package is a good sign

 

[balco]

So I got the package, but it's clearly been opened and resealed(I've never ran into this before) and says FDA on it. Should I be concerned?

I haven't opened it yet, as I'm still weirded out by everything being so different with this order, especially right after a seizure.

Did the source remove the labels off of the vials? That's probably the reason the package was opened and nothing was taken; I'm assuming they couldnt quickly prove what was in the vials so they let it through.

 

[Night_Owl]

To anyone else reading this in the future, I received 3 FDA letters without a visit. So not necessarily a reason to freak out right away.

They offer you to claim it, or to have them dispose of it.

 

[balco]

To anyone else reading this in the future, I received 3 FDA letters without a visit. So not necessarily a reason to freak out right away.

They offer you to claim it, or to have them dispose of it.

Interesting, I'm curious what the process of "claiming" would look like

 

[Glocker]

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