Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

[Dr JIM]

Sure man, completely expected for you to ignore everything on your side of things and go after Jim again.

This thread actually doesn't have much to do with Jim. This thread is about you... Only a liar would try to discredit Jim instead of backing up his own reputation.

It's true, you likely were never going to get a fair shake here. It just turns out you never deserved one in the first place.

VERY WELL SAID!

 

[janoshik]

then why are you still here?

Good question.

I was ignoring you the majority of the time myself because it was clear you didn't have much to offer aside from bickering with Jim.... So you can imagine how much I value your opinion as well. But keep it up, keep digging your fucking hole.

Yes, sorry for trying to give you quoted unbiased data to check why JIM is bullshitting all of you.

Won't be happening again.

Good luck with lawsuit against Serono.

 

[ickyrica]

And for those that want or need the truth ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, follow the MONEY!

Good question.

easy answer

 

[KillaBig]

"There's no honor among Thieve's"

There's a lot of good people on here but a lot more predators and know it all bullshitter's.

 

[Eman]

Yes, sorry for trying to give you quoted unbiased data to check why JIM is bullshitting all of you.

Won't be happening again.

Oh I doubt that very much...

Good luck with lawsuit against Serono.

Lol deflection...

Clearly there is an issue with what went on with that sample but, again, it has nothing to do with why you are the center of attention in this thread.

Spoiler alert, you're the center of attention because you lied your ass off. I'm actually surprised you didn't come up with anything better... Not so good on the fly I guess? Or maybe mands was right and you're a junkie after all?

 

[janoshik]

Oh I doubt that very much...



Lol deflection...

Clearly there is an issue with what went on with that sample but, again, it has nothing to do with why you are the center of attention in this thread.

Spoiler alert, you're the center of attention because you lied your ass off. I'm actually surprised you didn't come up with anything better... Not so good on the fly I guess? Or maybe mands was right and you're a junkie after all?

Yes, I'm doing heroin i.v every hour. That's your ultimate answer.

 

[janoshik]

easy answer

Damn, if I was getting a nickel each time I post you'd see a whole lot more of me.

 

[muscle96ss]

1) So most of us have more important things to do with our time than play this stupid game.

2) I have interrogated Jano on the situation, I have transcripts from my conversations with Jano back in October

3) Mands has not lied about anything that has happened and has presented everything the way he views it.

4) However the conclusions drawn from the data presented make absolutely no common sense or logic and the transcripts that I have corroborate Jano's story.

5) you guys are going to discount our arguments and make your own opinions irrespective of what is right or wrong.

6) Jim is god and infallible and has you guys convinced that AAA analysis is the gold standard

7) Merck and Medco is significantly underdosing their Serostim.

8) He will sit and question everyone else's test results and complain that they didn't use the proper standard when in the last round of GH testing a couple years ago, he used Karl's GH as his standard and lied and told everybody that it was Humatrope.

9) has berated and bashed anyone that would consider using pharm GH as a standard; yet it was good enough for him.

So you can sit here as sheep with the wool pulled over your eyes and continue to believe Jim and his lies(yeah Jano is from Canada, lol),but the reality of how GH testing is performed and who is competent in doing it will not be found on this board.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all(even you rpbb)!!

1) Oh now you haven't the time, lol

2) And I suppose those "transcripts" much like Janos testing is NOT available for public scrutiny

3) MANDs integrity is not at issue here, never has been AND never will be

4) Really can I see? LMAO

5) And who should we rely upon as Meso's purveyor of truth YOU …..HAHAHAHAHAHAA

6) Hello wake up and read MH bc the World Health Organization decided THAT, not me and THREE evidence based citations were posted by CBS to that end.

7) Damn MH you still living in the 1990s and dreaming about "the days I was popular",
the current name IS EMD and based upon the testing to date, they DID under dose
at least one vial of of Seros. Hey I've an idea, lets see YOUR EVIDENCE to the contrary, Hey Jano hahahahahaha

8) Another accusation you have no proof of but what else is new

9) Wrong again! Haven't you read anything besides Jano's "transcripts". Its ok to use a Pharma product but it must FIRST be quantitated using an AAA. GOT IT nope and you never will!

10) Ok I erred on one of ten of your points of contention BUT if you ever want or expect to regain any respect on this board, dump that fraud Jano or post those exculpatory "transcripts"

BYE BYE FOOL![/QUOTE]

Just for you Jim, here are the transcripts:

[23.10.2016 14:22:55] <janoshik> yeah, about 5% it seems, no more for certain
[23.10.2016 14:23:21] <muscle96ss> did you get mands sample yet of the blacks
[23.10.2016 14:23:24] <janoshik> There's never enough of pharma samples, haha
[23.10.2016 14:23:26] <janoshik> Nope
[23.10.2016 14:23:38] <muscle96ss> did he send it yet?
[23.10.2016 14:23:46] <janoshik> One moment, I'll check history
[23.10.2016 14:23:48] <janoshik> but I think he did
[23.10.2016 14:24:29] <janoshik> yea he did
[23.10.2016 14:24:32] <janoshik> lemme check tracking
[23.10.2016 14:25:11] <janoshik> Oh well
[23.10.2016 14:25:20] <janoshik> Screw this
[23.10.2016 14:25:24] <janoshik> Stopped by customs
[23.10.2016 14:25:31] <muscle96ss> what?
[23.10.2016 14:25:58] <janoshik> "Communication with the addressee about the consignment being deposited in interim warehouse - asked to prove the value of the goods."
[23.10.2016 14:26:26] <muscle96ss> did u tell him what to write on the customs form?
[23.10.2016 14:26:47] <janoshik> Yep
[23.10.2016 14:27:13] <muscle96ss> hmm, so what happens now?
[23.10.2016 14:27:34] <janoshik> Well
[23.10.2016 14:27:40] <janoshik> I can try to talk it out with the customs
[23.10.2016 14:27:57] <janoshik> Due to my business it is possible
[23.10.2016 14:28:08] <janoshik> but they can always find a reason to not give it to me
[23.10.2016 14:28:38] <muscle96ss> i don't know the laws over there, but just be careful and don't take any risks
[23.10.2016 14:28:39] <janoshik> been there, done that
[23.10.2016 14:28:42] <janoshik> Yeah
[23.10.2016 14:28:51] <janoshik> I've had some trouble last week

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[25.10.2016 13:06:05] <muscle96ss> have you talked to mands about the sample getting stuck in customs yet?
[25.10.2016 13:06:12] <janoshik> Yes
[25.10.2016 13:06:15] <janoshik> Picked it up
[25.10.2016 13:06:21] <muscle96ss> you got it?
[25.10.2016 13:06:25] <janoshik> Yes
[25.10.2016 13:06:29] <janoshik> Though several issues arised
[25.10.2016 13:06:43] <janoshik> I got charged with importing anabolics
[25.10.2016 13:06:53] <janoshik> but they let me have it because I have a business
[25.10.2016 13:06:58] <janoshik> so this will be fun
[25.10.2016 13:07:05] <muscle96ss> so whats that mean
[25.10.2016 13:07:08] <muscle96ss> what happens
[25.10.2016 13:07:10] <janoshik> No idea
[25.10.2016 13:07:27] <janoshik> Waiting to hear from the customs regarding the issue
[25.10.2016 13:07:40] <muscle96ss> hat can they do?
[25.10.2016 13:07:49] <janoshik> Well, mostly fine me
[25.10.2016 13:07:54] <janoshik> But imo it should be okay
[25.10.2016 13:08:05] <janoshik> but the fines are in 5-10 000$ range
[25.10.2016 13:08:17] <janoshik> so I'm a tad irritated, if there is any, even tiny possibility of that
[25.10.2016 13:08:33] <janoshik> As long as it is not for human consumption, just for testing it should be okay

I think its quite obvious that although the tracking says that Jano refused the package and it was sent back on November 2nd; that really doesn't make any sense now does it?

 

[Eman]

<muscle96ss> have you talked to mands about the sample getting stuck in customs yet?
[25.10.2016 13:06:12] <janoshik> Yes

@mands is that correct per the date?

 

[muscle96ss]

1) So most of us have more important things to do with our time than play this stupid game.

2) I have interrogated Jano on the situation, I have transcripts from my conversations with Jano back in October

3) Mands has not lied about anything that has happened and has presented everything the way he views it.

4) However the conclusions drawn from the data presented make absolutely no common sense or logic and the transcripts that I have corroborate Jano's story.

5) you guys are going to discount our arguments and make your own opinions irrespective of what is right or wrong.

6) Jim is god and infallible and has you guys convinced that AAA analysis is the gold standard

7) Merck and Medco is significantly underdosing their Serostim.

8) He will sit and question everyone else's test results and complain that they didn't use the proper standard when in the last round of GH testing a couple years ago, he used Karl's GH as his standard and lied and told everybody that it was Humatrope.

9) has berated and bashed anyone that would consider using pharm GH as a standard; yet it was good enough for him.

So you can sit here as sheep with the wool pulled over your eyes and continue to believe Jim and his lies(yeah Jano is from Canada, lol),but the reality of how GH testing is performed and who is competent in doing it will not be found on this board.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all(even you rpbb)!!

6) Hello wake up and read MH bc the World Health Organization decided THAT, not me and THREE evidence based citations were posted by CBS to that end.



And Jim, regarding AAA testing being the gold standard; you are correct it is the gold standard for quantification. THAT IS WHEN THE CONTENTS ARE UNKNOWN AND THEREFORE THERE IS NO STANDARD TO TEST IT AGAINST!!! However, when the contents is known and there is a standard to test it against, then AAA is definitely not the gold standard for quantification.

Jim, why do you continue to lie and try to deceive people? Why don't you just tell them the truth? If you look in US Pharmacopeia, CN(china) Pharmacopeia, or EU Pharmacopeia; AAA is not even one of the tests that the pharmaceutical companies use for GH. If its so accurate then why wouldn't they use it? Come on Jim, answers these questions so I can get a good laugh.

 

[muscle96ss]

@mands is that correct per the date?

Here is some from my conversation with mands where he acknowledged what Jano said:

[26.10.2016 13:56:33] <mands> I guess. I don't know if I completely trust him
[26.10.2016 13:56:45] <mands> he was asking me some funny questions about the gh I sent him
[26.10.2016 13:57:10] <muscle96ss> he is either a doctor or training to be a doctor
[26.10.2016 13:57:14] <mands> like did I sent from my real home address and said it stopped in customs and he had to go get it.
[26.10.2016 13:57:25] <mands> I don't know it was just weird.
[26.10.2016 13:57:31] <muscle96ss> yeah, it got stuck in customs
[26.10.2016 13:57:34] <muscle96ss> he got it out
[26.10.2016 13:57:53] <mands> just seemed strange. I guess they have one of my addresses now lol
[26.10.2016 13:58:01] <mands> oh well. I don't live there so that's good
[26.10.2016 13:58:32] <mands> I just hope we can figure all this stuff out.
[26.10.2016 13:58:38] <muscle96ss> i don't think it effects you, it effects him
[26.10.2016 13:58:58] <mands> even if let's say our testing is off. I'm sure it could be adjusted.
[26.10.2016 13:59:05] <muscle96ss> exactly!!!
[26.10.2016 13:59:21] <mands> Oh he was telling just a heads up they have your address. I was like okay lol
[26.10.2016 13:59:26] <muscle96ss> thats why we need to figure it all out, then everythign will fall into palce
[26.10.2016 13:59:56] <muscle96ss> cause I am pretty sure karls stuff is accurately dosed as well
[26.10.2016 14:00:11] <mands> Yes it's essential that we keep the sellers in check. And if more than one board can agree that all testing is good or bad we can move on.
[26.10.2016 14:00:47] <mands> We actually dosed Karl's gh as good back when we used HPLC

 

[Dr JIM]

[/QUOTE]

And Jim, regarding AAA testing being the gold standard; you are correct it is the gold standard for quantification. THAT IS WHEN THE CONTENTS ARE UNKNOWN AND THEREFORE THERE IS NO STANDARD TO TEST IT AGAINST!!!
1) However, when the contents is known and there is a standard to test it against, then AAA is definitely not the gold standard for quantification.

Jim, why do you continue to lie and try to deceive people? Why don't you just tell them the truth?

2) If you look in US Pharmacopeia, CN(china) Pharmacopeia, or EU Pharmacopeia;

3) AAA is not even one of the tests that the pharmaceutical companies use for GH. If its so accurate then why wouldn't they use it? Come on Jim, answers these questions so I can get a good laugh.[/QUOTE]

1) Well if the contents were "known" then that Sero should have 4mg rather than 2mg of GH and the latter has been PROVEN by TWO and soon to be THREE labs. But I've no doubt you still will NOT BELIEVE, and what else is new.

So if you believe Pharma is "the standard" why are US GH manufactures REQUIRED to use the USP GH standard that has been quantified via an AAA. Your ignorance led you to follow Janos lead and I see somethings never change.

2) I don't KNOW what the "Chinese" are doing AND NEITHER DO YOU, but they like EVERYONE else were instructed to follow the WHO guideline set forth in the 1990s with respect to a UNIVERSAL means of GH quantification an AAA. However if you want to trust and believe those clowns will produce and sell a quality product on level with US Pharma you're living in the land of OZ, lol So lets use "Jins" to quantify "Jins" LOL.
Isn't that like having the cat guard the hen house and are you THAT FOOLISH, yep!

Oh and my reference to the "Chinese" has nothing to do with race but is reflective of the fact according to the DEA "CHINA" is by far the leading source of COUNTERFEIT "PHARMACEUTICAL GH"

3) Where do come up with such BULLSHIT MH. Just throw some crap out there and see if it sticks. I KNOW both Lilly and Pfizer use an AAA and I can't wait for you to cite evidence to the contrary.

 

[Eman]

Here is some from my conversation with mands where he acknowledged what Jano said:

[26.10.2016 13:56:33] <mands> I guess. I don't know if I completely trust him
[26.10.2016 13:56:45] <mands> he was asking me some funny questions about the gh I sent him
[26.10.2016 13:57:10] <muscle96ss> he is either a doctor or training to be a doctor
[26.10.2016 13:57:14] <mands> like did I sent from my real home address and said it stopped in customs and he had to go get it.
[26.10.2016 13:57:25] <mands> I don't know it was just weird.
[26.10.2016 13:57:31] <muscle96ss> yeah, it got stuck in customs
[26.10.2016 13:57:34] <muscle96ss> he got it out
[26.10.2016 13:57:53] <mands> just seemed strange. I guess they have one of my addresses now lol
[26.10.2016 13:58:01] <mands> oh well. I don't live there so that's good
[26.10.2016 13:58:32] <mands> I just hope we can figure all this stuff out.
[26.10.2016 13:58:38] <muscle96ss> i don't think it effects you, it effects him
[26.10.2016 13:58:58] <mands> even if let's say our testing is off. I'm sure it could be adjusted.
[26.10.2016 13:59:05] <muscle96ss> exactly!!!
[26.10.2016 13:59:21] <mands> Oh he was telling just a heads up they have your address. I was like okay lol
[26.10.2016 13:59:26] <muscle96ss> thats why we need to figure it all out, then everythign will fall into palce
[26.10.2016 13:59:56] <muscle96ss> cause I am pretty sure karls stuff is accurately dosed as well
[26.10.2016 14:00:11] <mands> Yes it's essential that we keep the sellers in check. And if more than one board can agree that all testing is good or bad we can move on.
[26.10.2016 14:00:47] <mands> We actually dosed Karl's gh as good back when we used HPLC

If I'm reading that right, you were the one that told him about customs issues. Mands still didn't know about it until you told him... Several days had passed since jano told you and he still hadn't told mands, you did in passing.

Don't you find that weird?

 

[janoshik]

If I'm reading that right, you were the one that told him about customs issues. Mands still didn't know about it until you told him... Several days had passed since jano told you and he still hadn't told mands, you did in passing.

Don't you find that weird?

Except I told Mands IMMEDIATELY after I found out.

 

[wedorecover]

Stubbed

 

[janoshik]

1) Well if the contents were "known" then that Sero should have 4mg rather than 2mg of GH and the latter has been PROVEN by TWO and soon to be THREE labs. But I've no doubt you still will NOT BELIEVE, and what else is new.

So if you believe Pharma is "the standard" why are US GH manufactures REQUIRED to use the USP GH standard that has been quantified via an AAA. Your ignorance led you to follow Janos lead and I see somethings never change.

2) I don't KNOW what the "Chinese" are doing AND NEITHER DO YOU, but if you want to trust and believe those clowns will produce a quality product on level with US Pharma you're living in the land of OZ, lol

3) Where do come up with such BULLSHIT MH. Just throw some crap out there and see if it sticks. I KNOW both Lilly and Pfizer uses AAA and I can't wait for you to cite evidence to the contrary.

1. Only a single set of results had been posted.

Also, give me a quote on EMD Serono using USP methods and USP standards on their European products.

Woah, so it doesn't apply to everybody? US is not the whole world? WOAH JIM. WOAH.

Also, don't you see a difference between a standard and a regular sample? If not, you are even more stupid than I had ever imagined.

Also, Mr. Muscle96ss is following my lead about as much as you follow your psychiatrist's instructions regarding the pills in your drawer. He has a brain of his own to check the data he is confronted with himself.

Unlike the retards parroting you and thinking they are being witty.

2. So much relevance. Also, you are retarded for thinking the Chinese can't produce pretty much anything they are paid for, provided they are paid enough.

3. I've posted the relevant parts of the pharmacopoeias before, look it up, lunatic.

Regarding Lill and Pfizer the burden on proof lies on you, so fuck off with trying to put it on M96SS.

 

[Dr JIM]

1) Oh now you haven't the time, lol

2) And I suppose those "transcripts" much like Janos testing is NOT available for public scrutiny

3) MANDs integrity is not at issue here, never has been AND never will be

4) Really can I see? LMAO

5) And who should we rely upon as Meso's purveyor of truth YOU …..HAHAHAHAHAHAA

6) Hello wake up and read MH bc the World Health Organization decided THAT, not me and THREE evidence based citations were posted by CBS to that end.

7) Damn MH you still living in the 1990s and dreaming about "the days I was popular",
the current name IS EMD and based upon the testing to date, they DID under dose
at least one vial of of Seros. Hey I've an idea, lets see YOUR EVIDENCE to the contrary, Hey Jano hahahahahaha

8) Another accusation you have no proof of but what else is new

9) Wrong again! Haven't you read anything besides Jano's "transcripts". Its ok to use a Pharma product but it must FIRST be quantitated using an AAA. GOT IT nope and you never will!

10) Ok I erred on one of ten of your points of contention BUT if you ever want or expect to regain any respect on this board, dump that fraud Jano or post those exculpatory "transcripts"

BYE BYE FOOL!

Just for you Jim, here are the transcripts:

[23.10.2016 14:22:55] <janoshik> yeah, about 5% it seems, no more for certain
[23.10.2016 14:23:21] <muscle96ss> did you get mands sample yet of the blacks
[23.10.2016 14:23:24] <janoshik> There's never enough of pharma samples, haha
[23.10.2016 14:23:26] <janoshik> Nope
[23.10.2016 14:23:38] <muscle96ss> did he send it yet?
[23.10.2016 14:23:46] <janoshik> One moment, I'll check history
[23.10.2016 14:23:48] <janoshik> but I think he did
[23.10.2016 14:24:29] <janoshik> yea he did
[23.10.2016 14:24:32] <janoshik> lemme check tracking
[23.10.2016 14:25:11] <janoshik> Oh well
[23.10.2016 14:25:20] <janoshik> Screw this
[23.10.2016 14:25:24] <janoshik> Stopped by customs
[23.10.2016 14:25:31] <muscle96ss> what?
[23.10.2016 14:25:58] <janoshik> "Communication with the addressee about the consignment being deposited in interim warehouse - asked to prove the value of the goods."
[23.10.2016 14:26:26] <muscle96ss> did u tell him what to write on the customs form?
[23.10.2016 14:26:47] <janoshik> Yep
[23.10.2016 14:27:13] <muscle96ss> hmm, so what happens now?
[23.10.2016 14:27:34] <janoshik> Well
[23.10.2016 14:27:40] <janoshik> I can try to talk it out with the customs
[23.10.2016 14:27:57] <janoshik> Due to my business it is possible
[23.10.2016 14:28:08] <janoshik> but they can always find a reason to not give it to me
[23.10.2016 14:28:38] <muscle96ss> i don't know the laws over there, but just be careful and don't take any risks
[23.10.2016 14:28:39] <janoshik> been there, done that
[23.10.2016 14:28:42] <janoshik> Yeah
[23.10.2016 14:28:51] <janoshik> I've had some trouble last week

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[25.10.2016 13:06:05] <muscle96ss> have you talked to mands about the sample getting stuck in customs yet?
[25.10.2016 13:06:12] <janoshik> Yes
[25.10.2016 13:06:15] <janoshik> Picked it up
[25.10.2016 13:06:21] <muscle96ss> you got it?
[25.10.2016 13:06:25] <janoshik> Yes
[25.10.2016 13:06:29] <janoshik> Though several issues arised
[25.10.2016 13:06:43] <janoshik> I got charged with importing anabolics
[25.10.2016 13:06:53] <janoshik> but they let me have it because I have a business
[25.10.2016 13:06:58] <janoshik> so this will be fun
[25.10.2016 13:07:05] <muscle96ss> so whats that mean
[25.10.2016 13:07:08] <muscle96ss> what happens
[25.10.2016 13:07:10] <janoshik> No idea
[25.10.2016 13:07:27] <janoshik> Waiting to hear from the customs regarding the issue
[25.10.2016 13:07:40] <muscle96ss> hat can they do?
[25.10.2016 13:07:49] <janoshik> Well, mostly fine me
[25.10.2016 13:07:54] <janoshik> But imo it should be okay
[25.10.2016 13:08:05] <janoshik> but the fines are in 5-10 000$ range
[25.10.2016 13:08:17] <janoshik> so I'm a tad irritated, if there is any, even tiny possibility of that
[25.10.2016 13:08:33] <janoshik> As long as it is not for human consumption, just for testing it should be okay

I think its quite obvious that although the tracking says that Jano refused the package and it was sent back on November 2nd; that really doesn't make any sense now does it?[/QUOTE]

And that's ALL that was required for you to believe this confusion was one of differing "perspectives", UNBELIEVABLE

Hey for my next AAA result I'll post my communications with Mands as evidence the testing was performed, gotta love that BULLSHIT

POST THE PROOF JANO TESTS ANYTHING MH, bc that's what this thread is about A FRAUD!

 

[muscle96ss]

If I'm reading that right, you were the one that told him about customs issues. Mands still didn't know about it until you told him... Several days had passed since jano told you and he still hadn't told mands, you did in passing.

Don't you find that weird?

No, your not reading it right; mands said that it got stuck and jano was asking him some wierd questions about the address etc..

 

[muscle96ss]

And Jim, regarding AAA testing being the gold standard; you are correct it is the gold standard for quantification. THAT IS WHEN THE CONTENTS ARE UNKNOWN AND THEREFORE THERE IS NO STANDARD TO TEST IT AGAINST!!!
1) However, when the contents is known and there is a standard to test it against, then AAA is definitely not the gold standard for quantification.

Jim, why do you continue to lie and try to deceive people? Why don't you just tell them the truth?

2) If you look in US Pharmacopeia, CN(china) Pharmacopeia, or EU Pharmacopeia;

3) AAA is not even one of the tests that the pharmaceutical companies use for GH. If its so accurate then why wouldn't they use it? Come on Jim, answers these questions so I can get a good laugh.[/QUOTE]

1) Well if the contents were "known" then that Sero should have 4mg rather than 2mg of GH and the latter has been PROVEN by TWO and soon to be THREE labs. But I've no doubt you still will NOT BELIEVE, and what else is new.

So if you believe Pharma is "the standard" why are US GH manufactures REQUIRED to use the USP GH standard that has been quantified via an AAA. Your ignorance led you to follow Janos lead and I see somethings never change.

2) I don't KNOW what the "Chinese" are doing AND NEITHER DO YOU, but they like EVERYONE else were instructed to follow the WHO guideline set forth in the 1990s with respect to a UNIVERSAL means of GH quantification an AAA. However if you want to trust and believe those clowns will produce and sell a quality product on level with US Pharma you're living in the land of OZ, lol So lets use "Jins" to quantify "Jins" LOL.
Isn't that like having the cat guard the hen house and are you THAT FOOLISH, yep!

Oh and my reference to the "Chinese" has nothing to do with race but is reflective of the fact according to the DEA "CHINA" is by far the leading source of COUNTERFEIT "PHARMACEUTICAL GH"

3) Where do come up with such BULLSHIT MH. Just throw some crap out there and see if it sticks. I KNOW both Lilly and Pfizer use an AAA and I can't wait for you to cite evidence to the contrary.[/QUOTE]

First of all, show me any proof whatsoever that ANY pharmaceutical company uses AAA for its GH products.

Secondly, I do know what the Chinese are doing. You obviously don't; but don't push your ignorance onto me.

 

[janoshik]

Hey for my next AAA result I'll post my communications with Mands as evidence the testing was performed, gotta love that BULLSHIT

POST THE PROOF JANO TESTS ANYTHING MH, bc that's what this thread is about A FRAUD!

And what proof would be good enough for you, my little chipmunk, so lost in the world of big sciencey words?

A registered business?

Dozens, if not hundreds of sets of blind samples sent to me?

My contradictions to labmax results MONTHS before it was found out the carrier oil affects the test?

Dozens of timestamped pictures?

Realtime analyses ran over the shared desktop with customers?

My results and methods being confirmed by unbiased HGH factories who don't give a slightest shit about me?

A personal visit and oversight over an blind analysis?

Getting standards directly from Sigma?


BEEN THERE. DONE THAT.