Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services

[Ghoul]

Damn.. This isn't not good at all. Seems like times are super tough and we should all be on the look out. Didn't realize it was that bad.... If jano saying many fakes that mean whole market being flooded with fake gear. These people likely selling too

The days of "nobody fakes test cyp oil" maybe over lol.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

The days of "nobody fakes test cyp oil" maybe over lol.

Thank god I still have my good qsc raws.... Its all I got that I can trust

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

We've seen 0 content oils with very high BB amount.

I drunkenly stipulate that it's because the 'powder' didn't dissolve well (at all) so the desperate brewer used more and more BB to try to dissolve it. But that's just my stipulation.

Better let the news out all over

 

[BlueBoy]

Many different clients.

I can’t believe that no one has asked yet, but can you disclose which raws or if it’s a variety?

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

I can’t believe that no one has asked yet, but can you disclose which raws or if it’s a variety?

Its almost all of them

 

[BlueBoy]

Its almost all of them

Ohhhh noooooo
I question everything so I hope that you don’t take offense, but did you hear that from him?

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Ohhhh noooooo
I question everything so I hope that you don’t take offense, but did you hear that from him?

We are seeing claims of fake test cyp. So yes its reasonable to assume labs are sending out fake everything or cutting it with something else to make up for the Shortage. No I didn't hear it from. Jano.

 

[BlueBoy]

We are seeing claims of fake test cyp. So yes its reasonable to assume labs are sending out fake everything or cutting it with something else to make up for the Shortage. No I didn't hear it from. Jano.

Definitely a reasonable assumption. Gross. Thank you for that.

 

[narta]

Seems like times are super tough

 

[Photon]

90% purity raws and 60% purity raws can both achieve the same amount of concentration required in the oils as its usually quite low 200-250mg/ml. One will probably pip more and have random sides than the other.

Whats a good test to determine if the oil is "pure" or full of impurities?

GCMS?

 

[powdered_toast_man]

At the beginning of the year QSC flopped, and then every other Chinese source simultaneously told everyone that they can still get peptides but not AAS. Jano's recent test are confirming that raws are not back, even though the Chinese seem to have colllectively decided to pretend that they are within the last few weeks.

As far as finished oils, there are tests on oils on this board from just this March that tested well. So somewhere out there, some Chinese supplier still has good finished oils that even made it to Jano for testing, for whatever that's worth.

 

[Photon]

At the beginning of the year QSC flopped, and then every other Chinese source simultaneously told everyone that they can still get peptides but not AAS. Jano's recent test are confirming that raws are not back, even though the Chinese seem to have colllectively decided to pretend that they are within the last few weeks.

As far as finished oils, there are tests on oils on this board from just this March that tested well. So somewhere out there, some Chinese supplier still has good finished oils that even made it to Jano for testing, for whatever that's worth.

All the finished oils testing shows is the mg/ml of the finished product.
It could be made out of raws that test at poor purity levels.

 

[AlexDavis43]

90% purity raws and 60% purity raws can both achieve the same amount of concentration required in the oils as its usually quite low 200-250mg/ml. One will probably pip more and have random sides than the other.

Just guessing or what

 

[powdered_toast_man]

All the finished oils testing shows is the mg/ml of the finished product.
It could be made out of raws that test at poor purity levels.

I'm ignorant to the actual brewing process. Is there not a step that "purifies" the unprocessed raw material?

 

[Photon]

Just guessing or what

Maybe Im not thinking of this right? Idk
Finished oils contains lets say MCT(most common) BB BA.

Lets fix BA at 1.5%. Then we play with MCT/BB. If its low purity, we just bump up the BB% and lower the MCT%, which allows more of the "stuff" to dissolve, till we hit the desired mg/ml. We then get a finished product with the desired mg/ml, which also contains impurities.

100% purity @ 100g gives you 100, 50% purity @ 200g will also give you 100. Its all just math and numbers. and adjusting MCT/BB ratios.

Sure at the end you filter it, but what you filter is stuff that has not dissolved, aka residue. With a high BB%, whatever impurities are going to be dissolved and not be filtered out.

The end result is you get a finished product with your desired mg/ml, with freebies (impurities) in it.

 

[narta]

Sure at the end you filter it, but what you filter is stuff that has not dissolved, aka residue.

Who says the 50% of the "other" stuff didn't get dissolved? It may well be smaller than .22μm and it gets in the final product. What if it is something toxic?

You just can't adjust for purity if purity is utterly shit. 90% is were I personally draw the line in raw purity and that's for EQ and Deca that are known offenders. For most others 94% is the line

 

[powdered_toast_man]

Maybe Im not thinking of this right? Idk
Finished oils contains lets say MCT(most common) BB BA.

Lets fix BA at 1.5%. Then we play with MCT/BB. If its low purity, we just bump up the BB% and lower the MCT%, which allows more of the "stuff" to dissolve, till we hit the desired mg/ml. We then get a finished product with the desired mg/ml, which also contains impurities.

100% purity @ 100g gives you 100, 50% purity @ 200g will also give you 100. Its all just math and numbers. and adjusting MCT/BB ratios.

Sure at the end you filter it, but what you filter is stuff that has not dissolved, aka residue.

Yea if the entirety of the powder is disolved. I assumed the recipe/process is designed to disolve only the desired compound and leave the rest as residue to be filtered. I don't actually know. I guess I'll ask chatgpt.

 

[Photon]

Who says the 50% of the "other" stuff didn't get dissolved? It may well be smaller than .22μm and it gets in the final product. What if it is something toxic?

You just can't adjust for purity if purity is utterly shit. 90% is were I personally draw the line in raw purity and that's for EQ and Deca that are known offenders. For most others 94% is the line

Thats exactly what Im saying, it got dissolved, so the filtering is useless. Filtering or not, those impurities are going into your body.

A bunch of vendors just updated their oils, Im trying to figure out what test I should run before i decide to bin the product or use it.

 

[Photon]

Yea if the entirety of the powder is disolved. I assumed the recipe/process is designed to disolve only the desired compound and leave the rest as residue to be filtered. I don't actually know. I guess I'll ask chatgpt.

BB is a good solvent, whatever crap you have is probably going to be dissolved in the finished oil. It does not "choose" whats good for you..lol

 

[powdered_toast_man]

BB is a good solvent, whatever crap you have is probably going to be dissolved in the finished oil. It does not "choose" whats good for you..lol

Seems you are correct. Which sucks lol. But correct nonetheless.