Janoshik, Lab4Tox and Analiza Bialek

[Alonso.]

An interesting idea that I would like to discuss and hear what the members of this forum think.

At the moment, there are several laboratories that conduct public testing of pharmaceutical products, mainly Janoshik, Lab4Tox, and the relatively new but rapidly gaining momentum Analiza Beliak. There are a couple more, such as "ChemTox," but they stopped testing steroids a couple of years ago, as well as "Simec," which is an excellent laboratory but can be challenging when it comes to placing orders for testing.

The idea goes as follows: I believe that if you take a sample from the same vial and divide it into small vials, sending them to different laboratories, we will likely get completely different results, especially when it comes to HGH. I'm not personally knowledgeable about the product at a chemical level, but I have conducted enough laboratory tests for my clients in my life.

It will be very interesting to hear from other participants, both experienced and not, what do you think the result will be if we send the same substance to different laboratories? How different the results of laboratory tests will be and by what criteria should or can we choose which of the results are more relevant and why?

 

[jJjburton]

An interesting idea that I would like to discuss and hear what the members of this forum think.

At the moment, there are several laboratories that conduct public testing of pharmaceutical products, mainly Janoshik, Lab4Tox, and the relatively new but rapidly gaining momentum Analiza Beliak. There are a couple more, such as "ChemTox," but they stopped testing steroids a couple of years ago, as well as "Simec," which is an excellent laboratory but can be challenging when it comes to placing orders for testing.

The idea goes as follows: I believe that if you take a sample from the same vial and divide it into small vials, sending them to different laboratories, we will likely get completely different results, especially when it comes to HGH. I'm not personally knowledgeable about the product at a chemical level, but I have conducted enough laboratory tests for my clients in my life.

It will be very interesting to hear from other participants, both experienced and not, what do you think the result will be if we send the same substance to different laboratories? How different the results of laboratory tests will be and by what criteria should or can we choose which of the results are more relevant and why?

This has been done already, you are new? People here have sent to each using same vial, or med or substance.

But if you feel otherwise, send some in to each yourself? See the results.

 

[Alonso.]

This has been done already, you are new? People here have sent to each using same vial, or med or substance.

But if you feel otherwise, send some in to each yourself? See the results.

Yeah, I'm new here. Already done, thats great! May I kindly ask to provide the link for the exact thread or might be name of the thread or something to read more about the process and the result that members get? It's very interesting if they sent AAS or HGH, how many labs they tested and if they sent vials of the same batch or they sent the oil from the exact same vial?! Very exciting

 

[jJjburton]

Yeah, I'm new here. Already done, thats great! May I kindly ask to provide the link for the exact thread or might be name of the thread or something to read more about the process and the result that members get? It's very interesting if they sent AAS or HGH, how many labs they tested and if they sent vials of the same batch or they sent the oil from the exact same vial?! Very exciting

Both have been done, to find the info you can use search bar, as it was also @Liska who did so too? I think, it was some months ago

 

[Alonso.]

Will have a look, thank you! Hope that one day I will proceed my own investigation anyway And of course will share the results here. Have a great weekends!

 

[SkankHunt]

Both have been done, to find the info you can use search bar, as it was also @Liska who did so too? I think, it was some months ago

Wasn’t Liska. I believe it was @HB_22

 

[HB_22]

Wasn’t Liska. I believe it was @HB_22

That is correct. A peptide and oil comparision with both.

 

[Alonso.]

That is correct. A peptide and oil comparision with both.

I found some similar thread about EP Oxandrolone products here:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/triple-assurance-of-quality-oxandrolex-25mg-from-euro-pharmacies-net

But it seems like this is still not the right post. HB_22, may I kindly ask you to provide with the link to the post with peptide and oil comparison? I'm very interested in reading and learning the details of the process and the results.

 

[janoshik]

Was that the one where Bielak was so unresponsive and took so long people started worrying they got busted and that they are at risk of their personal information leaking?

 

[HB_22]

But it seems like this is still not the right post. HB_22, may I kindly ask you to provide with the link to the post with peptide and oil comparison? I'm very interested in reading and learning the details of the process and the results.

I did this comparison with Janoshik and Bialek here:

Analiza Bialek Analytical Laboratory

Well, same... I sent 2 samples, they confirmed that they have received the samples 9 days ago. Since then it's been very quiet. I sent them another email a couple days ago but they did not reply. Not sure what to expect now. I hope you guys didn’t use your real adress in case they were busted...

thinksteroids.com

Was that the one where Bielak was so unresponsive and took so long people started worrying they got busted and that they are at risk of their personal information leaking?

Not sure if that is addressed at me but the only thing I remember is that it took him very long to make the test (almost 2 weeks?).

 

[janoshik]

Not sure if that is addressed at me but the only thing I remember is that it took him very long to make the test (almost 2 weeks?).

I am not sure, I just remember that discussion vaguely. Not sure where exactly it took place.

 

[HB_22]

I am not sure, I just remember that discussion vaguely. Not sure where exactly it took place.

Yea I remember that too. He went missing when some people including myself sent him material for testing and he didnt reply to emails. It was weird.

 

[Rido]

He went missing when some people including myself sent him material for testing and he didnt reply to emails. It was weird.

Makes me want to send samples.


How do I send my personal information and money to him? Plz help

 

[Vanargandar]

Makes me want to send samples.


How do I send my personal information and money to him? Plz help

Just DM me. I accept Cashapp only. I'll make sure you're taken care of.

 

[Liska]

and the relatively new but rapidly gaining momentum Analiza Beliak.

owned by UGL and long ago proven to fake many (not all) results to claims of impossible precision and much more, and haven't the licenses to clear samples at customs. Labtesting for harm reduction must start with vetting the laboratories themselves and while that is a complicated task few are capable of, for this one it's been done and documented in various threads in 2022/2023, so you won't have to dig too deep.

How different the results of laboratory tests will be

start by comparing laboratory testing from methods to reference standards (if used) to settings etc., have an understanding of how to analyze the raw data if supplied. You won't be able to compare results obtained via different methods meaningfully, understand the nature of any differences in results obtained via comparable methods, nor draw any useful conclusions from them otherwise.

 

[HB_22]

Makes me want to send samples.


How do I send my personal information and money to him? Plz help

Well he went missing but then showed up again and everything worked great after so yea, I dont like conspiracy theories so I will leave that to others. It's just how things were.

 

[GuerillaPete]

That is correct. A peptide and oil comparision with both.

Cool of you to do this .

 

[Alonso.]

Thank you for your professional suggestions, @Liska, I look forward to the day when I can discuss lab reports at that level.

Thank you @HB_22 for such a experience, amazing job. It has been like a little dream come true. I'm eager to do the same with HgH in the future, It would be great if someone conducts such an experiment, or if I become braver, more generous, or faster, I would be more than happy to discuss the results here. Time will tell!

May I kindly ask a few questions regarding the results of CJC and Test.Cyp comparison:
1) In your post, it states that there is a "slight difference," which is actually 8%-10%. Do you believe this kind of difference is acceptable and while?

2) Products was from the same batch, not the same vials, right? If so, then this could be the reason of difference, what do you think?

3) Test.Cyp is measured at 278.79mg/ml, which is 10% more then announced activity. Is this still within an acceptable range?

In my personal opinion, for meaningful result comparisons, it's essential to use products from the exact same vial, as batches can vary for various reasons. Additionally, a Test.cyp overdose of 28.79mg/ml may still be considered acceptable. Probably 10% is still alright, so if some laboratory always doing products like 90%-110% of original dosing, then it's not a problem. My research indicates that, officially, a 5% difference is considered permissible for many pharmacy products, such as Testosterone.

Thank you in advance for the opportunity to learn something new.

 

[expylon]

If someone is good and confident doesnt even need to bother insulting others. As you can see already did on this thread too.

Janoshik seems like a trashy person, always talks shit about other analysis services because he is scared of losing the monopoly. The guy is so maaad or has some mental problem with his ego.

I dont know whats the obsession with him and why he is the "gold standard" when others do fine. Forum parroting makes a good job.

I sent stuff to analiza bialek because it was the easiest alternative i found back then, communication wasnt the best but he did the blind test and i got the service i paid for.

 

[janoshik]

Driada? Check.


Same day start date and end date as all Driada's AB tests? Check.


New account? Check.

First post about bialek? Check.


Was in a DM promo? Check.

lmao, check.