John Meadows "Concoction Bowl"

[Wunderpus]

I don’t know what vegan gainzzzx is?
Though I have idea, is it a YouTube thing?
Hey man not trying to pick a fight or spread my vegan gospel. I’m just throwing other options out there that are from real food sources. No need to hate! I personally like my fast digesting carbs intra or post workout.
That when I will occasionally use HBCD.
To each there own. I guess getting you macros from real food not supplementing with whey, and sugar free chocolate syrup isn’t cool anymore.

I get what you're trying to say, but, you were picking apart the "supplement" by saying it had no nutritional value... Then supplementing your likely lackluster - in terms of actual nutritional value - alternative.

Overall, this supplement/food WORKS. I've used it for a LONG time now, I got @Eman on it, and I think a few others. It digests like a dream. Now, I don't use the whey as I don't eat dairy, but, anyone with dietary restrictions will already know "how" to modify this to their needs.

You may be surprised how well fast carbs such as CoR w/ a good nut butter works pre workout. I suggest you try it, as it is fully vegan, and report back. It'll cost you just a few bucks.

 

[Morefyah]

I get what you're trying to say, but, you were picking apart the "supplement" by saying it had no nutritional value... Then supplementing your likely lackluster - in terms of actual nutritional value - alternative.

Overall, this supplement/food WORKS. I've used it for a LONG time now, I got
@Eman on it, and I think a few others. It digests like a dream. Now, I don't use the whey as I don't eat dairy, but, anyone with dietary restrictions will already know "how" to modify this to their needs.

You may be surprised how well fast carbs such as CoR w/ a good nut butter works pre workout. I suggest you try it, as it is fully vegan, and report back. It'll cost you just a few bucks.

Well you lost me on the first part about me supplementing with a nutritional lackluster alternative. If your still talking about my suggestion actually not having any nutritional value. Then I will gladly break down the macros for you and you will be pleasantly surprised. Shit I’ll even add include a scoop of vegan protein to even the field.

With that being said I’ll give a try before I talk anymore shit! I’m going to use the same recipe with vegan protein and instead of choc syrup I think I’ll sub some choc pb2 powder and some diced banana.

 

[Wunderpus]

Well you lost me on the first part about me supplementing with a nutritional lackluster alternative. If your still talking about my suggestion actually not having any nutritional value. Then I will gladly break down the macros for you and you will be pleasantly surprised. Shit I’ll even add include a scoop of vegan protein to even the field.

With that being said I’ll give a try before I talk anymore shit! I’m going to use the same recipe with vegan protein and instead of choc syrup I think I’ll sub some choc pb2 powder and some diced banana.

Macros are great to follow, but as you know, also can be an Achilles heel to focus on them too much. Reason being, not all protein - as an example - is digested equally. Anecdotally, I have found the vegan proteins to be lower quality - in terms of results - than a quality egg white protein. I went some time using just the vegan stuff, many different (and expensive brands) and my soreness/recovery was pretty bad. Switched over to egg whites, and almost immediately I noticed a huge improvement. Coincidence? Maybe.

Honestly, I LIKE vegan protein, I think it tastes good, and the high fiber/micronutrient content is nice. But, I consider it a "weaker" protein source than egg whites, whey (for those who tolerate it well) and animal proteins (probably the 3rd most effective in my opinion).

Again, I think the comment about the PB2 highlights your incomplete understanding of WHY the nut butter is used in the first place. The FAT is the key here...

For a vegan option, give this a try:

1/4 cup CoR w/ 1 packet of stevia/splenda (I don't add the chocolate syrup, either) add in 1TBSP of either all natty almond butter (my preference) or PB

1-2 scoops of your favorite vegan protein mixed with almond milk

Drink/eat this 1-1.5 hours pre workout (I'd prefer the 1.5 hour mark due to the vegan proteins slower digestion rate).

 

[Morefyah]

Macros are great to follow, but as you know, also can be an Achilles heel to focus on them too much. Reason being, not all protein - as an example - is digested equally. Anecdotally, I have found the vegan proteins to be lower quality - in terms of results - than a quality egg white protein. I went some time using just the vegan stuff, many different (and expensive brands) and my soreness/recovery was pretty bad. Switched over to egg whites, and almost immediately I noticed a huge improvement. Coincidence? Maybe.
Honestly, I LIKE vegan protein, I think it tastes good, and the high fiber/micronutrient content is nice. But, I consider it a "weaker" protein source than egg whites, whey (for those who tolerate it well) and animal proteins (probably the 3rd most effective in my opinion).

Again, I think the comment about the PB2 highlights your incomplete understanding of WHY the nut butter is used in the first place. The FAT is the key here...

For a vegan option, give this a try:

1/4 cup CoR w/ 1 packet of stevia/splenda (I don't add the chocolate syrup, either) add in 1TBSP of either all natty almond butter (my preference) or PB

1-2 scoops of your favorite vegan protein mixed with almond milk

Drink/eat this 1-1.5 hours pre workout (I'd prefer the 1.5 hour mark due to the vegan proteins slower digestion rate).

I completely understand the fat part.
I mentioned the chocolate p2b as a replacement for the choc syrup.
Brother I consume 80-120 g fat ed.
Mostly from Mct, Avocado hemp seeds and my utter addiction to all nut butters.
I usually consume 8-10 tbsp ed which is definitely excessive.
Your right all vegan protein is not equal.
I have tried many right now I use Vega.
Pea protein digests the fastest followed by brown rice, seed proteins such as pumpkin and hemp digest the slowest. I drink flax seed milk with pea protein added to it. It has more protein a cup then regular milk. You might like it...

I appreciate you explaining yourself and talking time to add those recipes.
I’m definitely going to try it out.
You make it sound tasty and it’s definitely something that I think I would enjoy.
I’ll report Back..

 

[Wunderpus]

I completely understand the fat part.
I mentioned the chocolate p2b as a replacement for the choc syrup.
Brother I consume 80-120 g fat ed.
Mostly from Mct, Avocado hemp seeds and my utter addiction to all nut butters.
I usually consume 8-10 tbsp ed which is definitely excessive.
Your right all vegan protein is not equal.
I have tried many right now I use Vega.
Pea protein digests the fastest followed by brown rice, seed proteins such as pumpkin and hemp digest the slowest. I drink flax seed milk with pea protein added to it. It has more protein a cup then regular milk. You might like it...

I appreciate you explaining yourself and talking time to add those recipes.
I’m definitely going to try it out.
You make it sound tasty and it’s definitely something that I think I would enjoy.
I’ll report Back..

Honestly, it tastes like warm peanut butter cookie dough, not bad at all! I actually enjoy it.... Warm PB/almond butter tastes great. The stevia/other sweetener is a must, for me, though... I like the Orgain vegan protein a lot, the peanut butter is delicious.

 

[Oregongearhead]

I completely understand the fat part.
I mentioned the chocolate p2b as a replacement for the choc syrup.
Brother I consume 80-120 g fat ed.
Mostly from Mct, Avocado hemp seeds and my utter addiction to all nut butters.
I usually consume 8-10 tbsp ed which is definitely excessive.
Your right all vegan protein is not equal.
I have tried many right now I use Vega.
Pea protein digests the fastest followed by brown rice, seed proteins such as pumpkin and hemp digest the slowest. I drink flax seed milk with pea protein added to it. It has more protein a cup then regular milk. You might like it...

I appreciate you explaining yourself and talking time to add those recipes.
I’m definitely going to try it out.
You make it sound tasty and it’s definitely something that I think I would enjoy.
I’ll report Back..

Ive been sprinkling "Trilogy" on my foods...definitely adds fiber .
Flax/Chia/Hemp . Good stuff .

 

[Wunderpus]

Ive been sprinkling "Trilogy" on my foods...definitely adds fiber .
Flax/Chia/Hemp . Good stuff .

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Any taste?

 

[Oregongearhead]

Any taste?

Oh yeah - good taste . Not grassy , kinda nutty .
Mmmm HEMP . Its whats for dinner .

PS - remember when you use to eat the seeds in your reefer bag ? Same taste...

 

[Morefyah]

Alright bro I kept my promise.
It tasted good and was easy to make and put down. I used flax milk, almond butter and a scoop of Vega vanilla clean protein 25g.
I don’t have any stevia so added a little diced banana and drizzled honey on it.
Still not enough nut taste for me so next time I think I’ll add more nut butter or a few tbsp of p2b. For how much I ate it definitely seemed light and I’m not full feeling. Off to the gym in about 45 minutes.

 

[Wunderpus]

Alright bro I kept my promise.
It tasted good and was easy to make and put down. I used flax milk, almond butter and a scoop of Vega vanilla clean protein 25g.
I don’t have any stevia so added a little diced banana and drizzled honey on it.
Still not enough nut taste for me so next time I think I’ll add more nut butter or a few tbsp of p2b. For how much I ate it definitely seemed light and I’m not full feeling. View attachment 80200 View attachment 80201 Off to the gym in about 45 minutes.

That "Protein Nut Milk" sounds interesting....

 

[Demondosage]

Meadows doesn't talk about shit that doesn't work. The guy is one of the few who speaks 100% truth in anything he shares

 

[Thenewera]

I have a very similar one except mine is with

1.5 hours before lifting:
2.5 servings Coco cream of wheat
1 banana
2 tbsp PB of choice
Sugar free syrup mixed in once cooked
Drink a scoop of protein of choice (I don’t like mixing it in with the cream of wheat due to the texture)

30 mins pre workout : muffin of choice

Intra workout: EAA, carbs, water water water

 

[Wunderpus]

I have a very similar one except mine is with

1.5 hours before lifting:
2.5 servings Coco cream of wheat
1 banana
2 tbsp PB of choice
Sugar free syrup mixed in once cooked
Drink a scoop of protein of choice (I don’t like mixing it in with the cream of wheat due to the texture)

30 mins pre workout : muffin of choice

Intra workout: EAA, carbs, water water water

I like it

 

[Eman]

That "Protein Nut Milk" sounds interesting....

My girl loves it...

Interpret that how you wish.

 

[Morefyah]

That "Protein Nut Milk" sounds interesting....

Yeah man 10g protein and no soy.
The flax milk is similar 8g protein no soy.
There both taste great and digest well.

 

[Morefyah]

Yeah shouldn’t have talked shit before I tried it. I was truly surprised how light it was yet it left me full and satisfied. It’s very similar to conjee rice porridge that’s served around SE Asia. Though it’s usually served as a savory dish served with raw egg, green onion and duck or pork. I think it’s super versatile and was good the way I had it but I really think it would be nice with some mixed berries and sliced almonds and honey.
Either way I stand corrected I’m sold!
Thanks @Wunderpus

 

[Wunderpus]

Yeah shouldn’t have talked shit before I tried it. I was truly surprised how light it was yet it left me full and satisfied. It’s very similar to conjee rice porridge that’s served around SE Asia. Though it’s usually served as a savory dish served with raw egg, green onion and duck or pork. I think it’s super versatile and was good the way I had it but I really think it would be nice with some mixed berries and sliced almonds and honey.
Either way I stand corrected I’m sold!
Thanks @Wunderpus

Keep playing with it, man. I found the ratios I like... But, it's a solid foundation. For those who eat ghee or grass fed butter, that could somehow be a nice addition with some cinnamon and stevia....

 

[Fattest_animal]

I'm going to buy a box of this tomorrow...