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biggerben69 said:
The last designer steroid that I remember was from Balco and Victor Conte. "The Clear" was what Conte was giving the pro athletes.
THG was the mystery compound.
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Yeah, and there was another one I heard about not too long ago called "delta 2" I think it was. And those and just the ones you and I have heard of and remember off the top of our heads.
 
gr8whitetrukker said:
I don't think these guys have access to anything we don't. We just would like to think they do because of their money
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I used to think that as well but look at how the whole steroids in pro sports issue came to light/blew up. It was Victor Conte with "The Clear", a steroid that none of us at that time had access to. There was another steroid his athletes were using, I forget the name, that we did not have access too as well.
My point is that while the majority are prob using the same things you and I are or could be but there very well could be some working with someone like a Victor Conte that has access to new designer steroids we have yet to see.
 
gr8whitetrukker said:
That would make things alot easier as far as acquisition goes but I'd think they wouldn't want any traces. Cuz people talk and the more people you have in the chain the bigger the chances of getting caught up in a mess. Jones is big time but not Alex Rodriguez or Peyton Manning big time. I'd think they'd have a trusted middleman to handle these exchanges for them. Maybe they just order off the damn Internet or email like the rest of us...idk
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That clinic in Florida has names of pro athletes from MLB and elsewhere. Melke Cabbrerra etc were on the client list that was released not long ago. Suspensions were handed out.
 
biggerben69 said:
That clinic in Florida has names of pro athletes from MLB and elsewhere. Melke Cabbrerra etc were on the client list that was released not long ago. Suspensions were handed out.
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That's exactly why I'd create a handle on an Internet forum. Register with TOR and order anonymously. No one needs to know. Even if I was jon jones. Otherwise you could end up on some ones list
 
I read an article bout a month ago with a guy that said several of the top athletes in reg sports and the olympics, pay guys like him to make sure they dont get caught. This guy said he would find out the exact method of testing that would be used , then have a lab in Mexico ( this guy was from Mexico) design a drug that would be undetectable. He also said that he had chemists design and produce drugs that "trap" steroid metabolites in the kidneys so when you pee your clean.
The guy was asked " of the top ten sprinters in this upcoming Olympics, how many will be juiced?" His answer... ALL TEN!!!!
Basically he said only the dumb or poor athletes get caught.
So basically the top guys do in fact have access to shit we dont, but that comes as no surprise to me.
 
That's what Lance did. He paid people to keep him clean, bribed people and worked the system. I'm sure he used things we don't/can't get. He's was at the top of the food chain. .

Jones is a fool. He is reckless.
 
biggerben69 said:
The last designer steroid that I remember was from Balco and Victor Conte. "The Clear" was what Conte was giving the pro athletes.
THG was the mystery compound.
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Im not big on MLB but I thought the guys involved in the florida clinic bust with like Arod and some other big names had proprietary designer drugs. They were operating outta Hileah I believe, drawing a blank on the name though.

As far as JJ is concerned though I think the UFC just plays heavy favoritism. When you are the golden goose you get away with murder, these guys that are bringin unfavorable publicity to the company likely get harassed more often. Like the Silvas aint pissin hot often, but if you go Warmachine they will give you a bunch of red tape and hurdles, hit you with fines and suspensions to set a favorable precedent in the public eye.
That's my belief anyways..
 
biggerben69 said:
The last designer steroid that I remember was from Balco and Victor Conte. "The Clear" was what Conte was giving the pro athletes.
THG was the mystery compound.
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What year was this? I think I was offered clear twice during my short stint playing ball.
 
mghoward74 said:
What year was this? I think I was offered clear twice during my short stint playing ball.
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Have to Google things. Conte was indicted by the feds and did a short term. If I remember he told everything he knew.
He had a supplement company and the popular products was "Z" something. It was a magnesium supplement..or zinc?
 
solidaxle50 said:
Yeah it's fucked up he got to fight and Jon Jones didn't. You would think his testing would have also been done before his fight.
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Brock was given some special "waiver" from the ufc so he could skip a bunch of the tests? Whatever that's all about?

Robfromga said:
Because the event was already tanked. They had to, to save their $$$
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Brock will profit more from the exposure, now and in the long run, and maybe even knew he was gonna fail the pre fight test and wasn't concerned with giving back the purse. The man is paid.
His physique is more impressive when he's in the wwe and the chems are flowing. Traps are sick. He's immense.
 
biggerben69 said:
Brock was given some special "waiver" from the ufc so he could skip a bunch of the tests? Whatever that's all about?


Brock will profit more from the exposure, now and in the long run, and maybe even knew he was gonna fail the pre fight test and wasn't concerned with giving back the purse. The man is paid.
His physique is more impressive when he's in the wwe and the chems are flowing. Traps are sick. He's immense.
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There is supposed to be a 4 month notice before a fight so the guys can be tested. Brock was allowed to give a 30 day notice instead. Apparently he was tested but the results didn't come back until after the fight. How convenient. He was probably coming off of a cycle. I have a friend on FB who is an amature fighter trying to make it to UFC and he posted a bunch of articles explaining it all. Also the top guys can afford to not get caught but the bottom guys simply don't make enough. Same goes for WWE. Triple H doesn't get tested because he's an exec and not technically on the cards. And I also read something about GH not "technically" being a steriod so it likely doesn't show up on the tests. That could explain how the top guys get away with it. I don't know much about it all since I'm new to training and haven't done it, but Google the article about WWE steriod use and you can read it for yourself. You might get more out of it than me.
 
Millard Baker said:
And Fertitta had to make sure that $4 billion sale of UFC was completed.
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Exactly! Plus the public voicing by fighter's dislike for being branded. With the reebok deal and no kick backs. Then add the fighters wanting a union. The twins ain't no dummies, the writing is on the wall. Smart cats haha
 
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