JUST TURNED 21! time for first cycle

[nick e. guns]

Juicestop- I am 27 and did my first cycle last summer. It was 500 mg test and 400 mg EQ. I originally posted a cycle kind of like yours and am so glad that I didn't do it. Like others said, that cycle is expensive and I don't think you will be really satisfied with the results. I gained 35 lbs. on my first and kept 27. I did get some acne, but the worst of it is easy to treat. No one ever noticed as it was so small. I never felt any mood swings except for a couple of times when I went out for a few drinks, but alcohol tends to have that effect on me anyway. Never had any "rages" and my GF was really surprised that I never freaked on her. It is all in your personality. Sex drive was heightened due to the test, so when it was over the drop off felt like it had lowered, but in reality it was no different than pre cycle. The cycle I mentioned is easy with 2 injects per week and if you train and eat right you will get phenomanal results. Don't try to complicate it too much unless you are trying to be Mr. O in the next couple of months. Otherwise keep it simple. Good Luck.

 

[DRAnabolicMD]

Juicestop- I am 27 and did my first cycle last summer. It was 500 mg test and 400 mg EQ. I originally posted a cycle kind of like yours and am so glad that I didn't do it. Like others said, that cycle is expensive and I don't think you will be really satisfied with the results. I gained 35 lbs. on my first and kept 27. I did get some acne, but the worst of it is easy to treat. No one ever noticed as it was so small. I never felt any mood swings except for a couple of times when I went out for a few drinks, but alcohol tends to have that effect on me anyway. Never had any "rages" and my GF was really surprised that I never freaked on her. It is all in your personality. Sex drive was heightened due to the test, so when it was over the drop off felt like it had lowered, but in reality it was no different than pre cycle. The cycle I mentioned is easy with 2 injects per week and if you train and eat right you will get phenomanal results. Don't try to complicate it too much unless you are trying to be Mr. O in the next couple of months. Otherwise keep it simple. Good Luck.

good post nick

 

[hardcore210]

I offer my assistance in product, as you all offer your assistance in knowledge I respect your opinion bro.

Vice versa

 

[spound]

Juicestop- everyone always says that your first cycle is always the best and almost always yeilds the best gains. I guarantee you that a lot of the guys on here wish they would have done their first cycle differently because they chose a cycle that just wasn't right for a first timer, and they regret it. These guys are experienced users, and who better to take advice from than guys who have experienced this personally and know what works? Its a no brainer to me, these guys are giving you great advice, and you will not regret it if you follow it. I also think Test/EQ would be the best for accomplishing your goals, and you would be more than satisfied with the result. I dunno, just my two cents man b/c i really wish i had done something like that for my first cycle. Good luck and happy growing

 

[quedog123]

in my opinion dude use aas when they get as far as they can naturally then when they get pretty far with aas they use stuff like GH you should not use it now it is to early and i dont think you will even get any more results then u would wit a good cycle or 2 and they wont run you no where near 2g's ayone else agree?

 

[rjx]

Bros stack a wide variety of shit when they don't respond to the little cycles like they used to because as they get bigger, they need more to keep growing. This is your first cycle and the cycle itself looks like vets cycle. But a vet would definitely have test in there.

Bro. If you do 500mg of test a week, you might add more lean mass than that whole cycle since you are a newbie.

Take HCG 2x a week during the cycle, and nolva or clomid for PCT. If you continue to eat and train properly after the cycle, you should be able to keep a lot of your lean mass.

 

[juicestop]

Test is definetly starting to sound good, but what about Deca instead of EQ? Also if I do run test I'd run prop EOD to cut down the water, I'm not afraid of shots. So I was thinking something like 150 mg Prop EOD with 200 mg Deca every other shot for oh say 10 - 12 weeks. Lets bump this till I figure out what the hell i'm gonna do, growth can wait

 

[rjx]

Now we are making progress

I have two more threads for you to check out. These are two great topics by a great vet named RealGains.

CYCLES novice to advanced
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30058&highlight=realgains

How to KEEP GAINS from steroids
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30004&highlight=realgains

 

[spound]

I think the prop 150 EOD and deca 200 mg (2X a week, so 400mg/wk) would be fine, but why use prop to keep water retention low when you will get water from the deca anyways? Might as well useTest Ent or Cyp

 

[nick e. guns]

Exactly what spound said....you are going to get moonface from the deca pretty bad, running prop won't save you, even with arimidex. EQ won't bloat you as bad as deca and will help increase your appetite around week six. If you do end up doing test and EQ, I would run it for 12 weeks as enanthate and EQ take about 4-5 weeks to really kick in.

 

[Pimp C]

I would purchase Chemical Muscle Enhancement and Building the Perfect Beast and read both front to back several times and then decide for yourself what kind of cycle you want to do. I only wish these books would've been around before i started juicing. This will help ensure that you get the most out of you're first cycle.