Just wondering which stack would put the most lean body mass (with the same diet, training & sleep)

Vote for a stack.

  • 500 deca + 1000 test

    Votes: 21 41.2%
  • 1000 deca + 500 test

    Votes: 16 31.4%
  • 400 tren + 500 test

    Votes: 14 27.5%

  • Total voters
    51
Well that information changes it a little
I change my recommendation to 750 test/500 Deca
And eat more lol
i've already tried to eat more than 500 calories over my TDEE but I just put on much fat, so I've stopped and then a surplus of 500 is my ideal to get at least 70-80% of LBM.
 
You just have to find which compounds that have sides you can tolerate. There no magic formula or dose. Run as high of a dose as you can without debilitating sides and train and eat.
Also, if you are afraid to gain a little fat on a bulk you are limiting the amount of new muscle you gain. I'd say if you stay under 20% BF you can fairly easily cut back down.
 
It's not a magic as some make it out to be.
I can understand that, but what got me curious is :

" Trenbolone can affect muscle growth in several different ways, making it one of the best compounds for both maintaining and adding quality muscle mass. First, trenbolone can greatly increases the level of IGF-1 within muscle tissue. It also causes muscle satellite cells, those responsible for repairing damaged muscle fibers, to be more sensitive to IGF-1 and other growth factors. The amount of DNA per muscle cell may also be significantly increased by using trenbolone1 . "
 
You just have to find which compounds that have sides you can tolerate. There no magic formula or dose. Run as high of a dose as you can without debilitating sides and train and eat.
Also, if you are afraid to gain a little fat on a bulk you are limiting the amount of new muscle you gain. I'd say if you stay under 20% BF you can fairly easily cut back down.
i don't even like to look at myself in the mirror with more than 20percent bf, but this sometimes blocked me, a little bit of dismorphia hahahah
 
i don't even like to look at myself in the mirror with more than 20percent bf, but this sometimes blocked me, a little bit of dismorphia hahahah
I think it's very common to feel that way. I did a "lean bulk" for 10 years lol. Gained very very little muscle. I was natural and strong as hell but couldn't gain size. Lean bulking is just spinning your wheels and getting nowhere.
 
I think it's very common to feel that way. I did a "lean bulk" for 10 years lol. Gained very very little muscle. I was natural and strong as hell but couldn't gain size. Lean bulking is just spinning your wheels and getting nowhere.
me too bro, i train from some years but didn't became superman hahahahah, but with the time peds will help...for sure
 
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me too bro, i train from some hears but didn't became superman hahahahah, but with the time peds will help...for sure
that's the other factor, time. Everyone is always in a hurry when they jump on gear. 1st cycle gains are crazy, then it slows down. Unless you have fantastic genetics for gaining muscle, it can take 10 years to get a pro level physique. And that's if you are very consistent with diet, training, and gear.
 
that's the other factor, time. Everyone is always in a hurry when they jump on gear. 1st cycle gains are crazy, then it slows down. Unless you have fantastic genetics for gaining muscle, it can take 10 years to get a pro level physique. And that's if you are very consistent with diet, training, and gear.
for sure, it should be a life choice
 
Honestly, I'm not scared to deal with the hunger suppression of tren because of my gallon of milk. I am actually planning to blast a good bulking stack for 40 weeks straight before cruising for a few months.
Maybe hire a coach, it seems like your problem is your diet not the compounds.

Anyway, I doubt you'll listen to the wise advices of the peeps here and just needs validation on using tren. So for research purposes, you can read LSD's 1.5g tren frontload thread and check out his progress lol, then come back post your before and after pics.

Good luck.
 
That’s a lot of fat and dairy no? Aren’t you prone to acne and become a shitting machine
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with it for bulking but yeah...most people would have major digestion issues from that much dairy. But if OP can handle it, good for him.
 
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with it for bulking but yeah...most people would have major digestion issues from that much dairy. But if OP can handle it, good for him.
I would become a fat fuck and rather get those calories from mcdonalds
 
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