kalrskoga sustanon different

[JohnLong]

"Karlskoga Labs"
i guys i have a "sustanon" with different esters than usual
it has 5 esters totaling to 350mg

testosterone acetate 50mg
testosterone cypionate 75mg
testosterone decanoate 100mg
testosterone propionate 65mg
testosterone phenlyprop. 60mg

anyone familiar with this brand or blend?

 

[Live_Evil]

I've used something similar. Still just a handful of different test esters. I'd pin twice a week at least, possibly 3 times. If you're around 500 weekly then start pct a week after your last injection.

 

[Fitwelder]

Wouldn't the cyp ester take 3+ weeks to clear? Starting pct after 1 week is too soon no?

 

[Live_Evil]

Wouldn't the cyp ester take 3+ weeks to clear? Starting pct after 1 week is too soon no?

8 days half life on test cypionate, but you also have the half life of the SERM to consider, which is 7 days. So actually, if you front load your clomid at 400 mg on day 9, it should kick in full blast right as the cypionate is gone.

Day 7 of a start would have been fine, but yeah, test cypionate has 8 day half life, where I was thinking it was 7.

 

[Eman]

8 days half life on test cypionate, but you also have the half life of the SERM to consider, which is 7 days. So actually, if you front load your clomid at 400 mg on day 9, it should kick in full blast right as the cypionate is gone.

Day 7 of a start would have been fine, but yeah, test cypionate has 8 day half life, where I was thinking it was 7.

You don't wait just one half life until you PCT though...

There's also decanoate ester in this blend which means it'll hang even longer.

 

[JohnLong]

Starting pct one week after you last pin is not correct..

 

[BrownTown]

Matrix labs use to have 2 sust blends, one was the regular 4 esters and the second was 5 esters with test acetate. Not sure if it was a mental thing or what but i thought the sust with the test ace was killer. I had awesome gains from it and libido was through the roof. I pinned eod though. Starting pct after one week is way to soon. I know certain people have certain ways of running pct but if im running a sust blend ill usually start after the 17th day of last pin putting me in the 2.5 week mark and for me personally I haven't had any issues.

 

[JohnLong]

Matrix labs use to have 2 sust blends, one was the regular 4 esters and the second was 5 esters with test acetate. Not sure if it was a mental thing or what but i thought the sust with the test ace was killer. I had awesome gains from it and libido was through the roof. I pinned eod though. Starting pct after one week is way to soon. I know certain people have certain ways of running pct but if im running a sust blend ill usually start after the 17th day of last pin putting me in the 2.5 week mark and for me personally I haven't had any issues.

My buddy got me this and said he really enjoyed it. And I saw his gains happen super fast too. I would imagine the different lasting eaters would have more volume and more stable bloods. Idk I'm a noob that's just my bro theory

 

[tenpoundsleft]

"Karlskoga Labs"
i guys i have a "sustanon" with different esters than usual
it has 5 esters totaling to 350mg

testosterone acetate 50mg
testosterone cypionate 75mg
testosterone decanoate 100mg
testosterone propionate 65mg
testosterone phenlyprop. 60mg

anyone familiar with this brand or blend?

What's the point of with all these esters? To make the concentration higher without PIP? Or to smooth out the test levels since all the esters will decay at different rates?

Anything like this you'd have to pin EOD, and with the decanoate it's very long. Perhaps good for TRT purposes, if you like to pin EOD.

Rich Piana hated blends.

 

[JohnLong]

What's the point of with all these esters? To make the concentration higher without PIP? Or to smooth out the test levels since all the esters will decay at different rates?

Anything like this you'd have to pin EOD, and with the decanoate it's very long. Perhaps good for TRT purposes, if you like to pin EOD.

Rich Piana hated blends.

Dude look up rich piana favorite cycle and you would be surprised that it contains sust...

 

[Live_Evil]

You don't wait just one half life until you PCT though...

There's also decanoate ester in this blend which means it'll hang even longer.

Lol, I said to go two half lives, but take the half life of the SERM into account, so that levels are optimal the day that the test is gone.

The protocol I named is almost identical to what Bill Roberts recommends for a sustanon cycle at 500 weekly.

 

[JohnLong]

I'm just doing the 350. Pinning 175 2x week. First cycle

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Dude look up rich piana favorite cycle and you would be surprised that it contains sust...

 

[JohnLong]

Lol whatever it takes, right babe?

 

[Apexvallen]

I've used something similar. Still just a handful of different test esters. I'd pin twice a week at least, possibly 3 times. If you're around 500 weekly then start pct a week after your last injection.

8 days half life on test cypionate, but you also have the half life of the SERM to consider, which is 7 days. So actually, if you front load your clomid at 400 mg on day 9, it should kick in full blast right as the cypionate is gone.

Day 7 of a start would have been fine, but yeah, test cypionate has 8 day half life, where I was thinking it was 7.

You shouldn't be giving advice.

 

[JohnLong]

so i pinned today for the first time. lil sore. does anyone have advice if i get sus flu for a couple days? im taking 4000iu D3 in the morning. ill start a new thread when i see noticeable gains