Pericles for ONCE your argument (absent the personal attacks) are entirely cogent, lol. (I will also say your comment to GR, because he cordially disagreed with your opinion was shortsighted, completely inappropriate and I suspect reflective of your quid-pro-quo training bias)
Those who work for a particular lab (often referred to as "plants, tools, shills, stoolies" etc) yet also post on Meso to defend that labs actions or inaction only RARELY have Meso mates best interest at heart!
Now IM you say you have run Geneza gear and "never had a problem"!
Well my goodness why am I not surprised since you work for them and NO DOUBT have access to their "better to best" products lines.
In fairness PC you claim Genza gear caused you to develop hematomas on two separate occasions!
By what mechanism is this possible, (excluding happenstance) are you suggesting Genzea puts anticoagulants in their gear?
Another fella claims to have developed a Staph infection FROM GENZEZA GEAR, but what is known about parenterally mediated soft tissue infections is at least NINETY PERCENT are the result of the OPERATORS poor technique rather than CONTAMINATED GEAR.
How can that be? Because Staph and Strep LIVE on the human dermis and EVERYTIME you puncture that protective layer with an sharp object (or otherwise) access is achieved.
So how does one PROVE the gear is CONTAMINATED? The gear itself must be CULTURED to determine if any bacterial growth occurs.
Now let me tell you this, testing gear for contaminants is really EASY. Order some "agar plates" and "streak" that plate with a drop of the AAS oil.
Should growth occur your job has only begun! Do the same thing twice more and if growth occurs two out of three times, post the results on Meso BUT first give that lab a chance to respond.
Why the latter? Because contaminated gear COULD KILL fellow BB and LIFTERS
This situation must not be allowed to pass unaccounted for (unlike selling a low concentrate AAS or even substituting one AAS for another).
Furthermore any UGL that is not willing to defend their actions if this is reported should be SLAMMED here and elsewhere, IMO.
To do this EVIDENCE is of paramount importance otherwise said accuser could be pigeon holed as no more than an adversary with a vested interest.
Naps well I don't know about the quality of their gear BUT I do know several complaints have made there way to Meso as posts. (And that's NOT good for NAPS regardless of there validity)
What that tells me at the minimum, chances are Naps people management and complaint departments are sorely lacking renovation.
Yea I'm aware they are a "big company" but so is Apple and "being big is no excuse for ineptitude or a lackadaisical approach to consumer complaints" Steve Jobs
Not withstanding a certain degree of validity inherent to multiple complaints about ONE UGLs credibility, (where there's smoke there's fire, probably), I agree with IM, AAS Forum rumors should be taken with a grain of salt and treated as hearsay UNTIL someone is willing to put their money where their mouth is and TEST that product of dubious distinction!
Jim
