Labmax-like roid tests with cheap Ebay chemicals? Here's how

[master.on]

he is just plain idiot for the money you spend on glassware, chemicals, accessories, setting up a bench you can send for testing to Simec, cost less.

plus you need to be chemist

This just PROVES you're a LABMAX SHILL!!!

So you need to be chemist in order to be able to pour a couple drops with a dropper and watch the color change???
Did they ask you for a college degree for a shill job?

Cost more?
Complete Set of All 8 Testing Kits |
8 testing reagents for $105, enough for about 50 tests. $2 and change per test?

I told you not even chime in
now answer: Is LM a DEA front as rumored in other posts in Meso and elsewhere?
Is it true that they share customers info with DEA?
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
AND DON'T CHANGE SUBJECTS

mercury= LABMAX SHILL plain and simple. Period.
This is a JUICERS board, not a source board, not a shill board. GTFO

So, essentially, the strategy is to rely on name-calling and avoid giving evidence for your argument at all costs. Just "expose" people as "shills," but "do not engage."
Because if you do, the "shills" will defeat you with some kind of underhanded, dishonest trick such as pointing out that "you have no evidence."
If your argument can be defeated by pointing out that you refuse to substantiate it as evidence, you're simply wrong, and no amount of ad hominem will make up the difference.
Nassim Nicholas Taleb - RationalWiki

 

[master.on]

The technical name for testing steroids with Sulfuric Acid is: Salkowski test
Tests for steroids: i) Salkowski Tests: Chloroform solution of the extract when shaken with concentrated sulphuric acid and on standing yields red colour
http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/6935/12/12_appendix.pdf

Many steroids have a Ketone group in their chemical structure

KetONES have the =O
and -ONE in their names
TestosterONE

BoldenONE (Equipoise)

DrostanolONE (Masteron)

FloxymesterONE (Halotestin)

MesterolONE (Proviron)

MethandrostenolONE, MethandienONE (Dianabol)

 

[master.on]

MethenolONE (Primobolan)

NandrolONE (Deca, NPP)

Oxandrolone (Anavar)

OxymetholONE (Anadrol)

 

[master.on]

TrenbolONE

Note that Stanozolol doesn't have a Ketone group

Now Ketones usually can be identified with 2,4-Dinitrophenylhydrazine
Ketone - Wikipedia
2,4-Dinitrophenylhydrazine - Wikipedia

2,4-Dinitrophenylhydrazine, reagent grade, 97% | (O2N)2C6H3NHNH2 | Sigma-Aldrich
This chemical may well provide the missing link

 

[master.on]

2,4-Dinitrophenylhydrazine has even been used for QUANTITATIVE (how much is there) Testosterone Analysis:
MICRODETERMINATION OF TESTOSTERONE IN HUMAN SPERMATIC VEIN BLOOD* | The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism | Oxford Academic

TestosterONE and AndrostenediONE were visualized with 0.1% 2,4-Dinitrophenylhydrazine in ethanol containing concentrated hydrocholoric acid...
Hormone Receptors in the Brain


2,4-Dinitrophenylhydrazine has UV activity
Henry et al used 2,4-Dinitrophenylhydrazine (DNPH) as an UV-labeling reagent for the separation of carbonyl-containing steroids by HPLC...
Carbonyl group includes Ketones
Carbonyl group - Wikipedia

 

[master.on]

Check this out

Paper Chromatography
Page 204
It gives UV colors!

AACS reagent contains p-Anisaldehyde, another chemical used for steroids color tests. As you can see it also contains Sulfuric Acid

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Quantitative T determination with 2,4-Dinitrophenylhydrazine failed but we ar OK with Qualitative analysis
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac60059a050

 

[master.on]

I found this Patent
Colorimetric method to detect illicit drugs
Steroids
methandienone − −
testosterone − −
Patent US20150017732 - Colorimetric method to detect illicit drugs

 

[master.on]

@millard-baker
Sorry to bother you but in good intention I flooded the post with images, so now it crashes when loading
Can you please delete the images TestosterONE, NandrolONE, etc all ONEs?

I have some chemistry background so I want to help checking the steroids molecular structure to determine which colour testing reagents can be used.
Thanks a lot

 

[master.on]

Check this out:

9.5.15 Sulfuric Acid/Ethanol Reagent for Steroids (¶ 9.8.5)
9.5.15.1 Recipe: Add gradually 10 mL of conc. sulfuric acid to 90 mL of ethanol.
9.5.15.2 Procedure: Spray plate and heat gently on a hot plate to develop.
9.5.15.3 Results: • Testosterone - green
• Testosterone esters – purple
• Oxymethalone – red
• Nandrolone decanoate – purple
http://www.dfs.virginia.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/221-D100-Controlled-Substances-Procedures-Manual.pdf

So we have just deciphered what Roid-test Vial D contains!!!
Check RT chart yourself, it matches Test esters and Deca.
By the way RT didn't have tested it for TNE and Adrol, so we're already a step ahead.
However I admit they did test it for Eq, Mast E, Mast P, NPP, Sustanon 250 blend, they turn purple at 2'5 minutes, darker over time.
For Tren A, Tren E deep purple is obtained immediately.
They also compiled some UV data. Check their chart.

Substance Test D - ROIDTEST™ Refill (2 Tests)
They charge $24.95 for 2 tests.
WTF?

 

[master.on]

Check this one out
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3188078/HeroinFieldTestReport-April2015.pdf

It has Marquis reagent test results for every substance you can think of!
Absolutely ALL steroids are there! Unbelievable.
There are some Mecke and Froehde reagent results as well.

A bottle of Marquis reagent costs about $20 here, Ebay or Amazon or elsewhere
Marquis Reagent Testing Kit |
It says it lasts about 50 tests.
At these prices there's just no reason to do some testing on every purchase you make.

I have homework to do, I guess. I'll update the chart.
Yet more to come, stay tuned...


P.S. I didn't even want to reverse engineer LM or RT, but the results look strikingly similar to Roid-Test vial B

 

[janoshik]

Good work. Thanks for the write-up. Would you mind me sharing it should the opportunity arise?

I did reverse engineer labmax tests for a customer of mine years ago, you hit the spot.

Mercury is shill indeed.

 

[master.on]

Good work. Thanks for the write-up. Would you mind me sharing it should the opportunity arise?

I did reverse engineer labmax tests for a customer of mine years ago, you hit the spot.

Mercury is shill indeed.

I'll update the chart
I've been busy but I'll see if I can work on it at least 10 min a day
In the meantime you check this one out
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3188078/HeroinFieldTestReport-April2015.pdf
scroll down to page 11-

Since you can't be contacted by PM,
may I ask you to post some interesting info or links you have?

 

[master.on]

More updates below

All data comes from
Clarke's Analysis of Drugs and Poisons
Fourth edition


Antimony pentachloride
Brown: fluoxymesterone, norethandrolone, oxymetholone

 

[master.on]

Naphtol-sulfuric acid

 

[master.on]

Sulfuric acid
This includes fluorescence colors so it may hint what Labmax/Roidtest vials actually contain

 

[rx2man]

Just ordered this thanks to this thread!! Hard to beat for $20!!

 

[master.on]

Just ordered this thanks to this thread!! Hard to beat for $20!!

Please keep us posted with your pics.

 

[T-Bagger]

Just ordered this thanks to this thread!! Hard to beat for $20!!

LOL, you completely missed the point of the post

 

[rx2man]

I did?, would not be the 1st time but I thought the post was to get labmax like results for less money.

 

[T-Bagger]

I did?, would not be the 1st time but I thought the post was to get labmax like results for less money.

Lol, yeah by buying the chemicals themselves hahaha