LABS toward end of Torem PCT, help!!

[johnnyBALLZ]

I've been experiencing somethings I normally don't this PCT so I got labs done yesterday.. I've dropped 8-9 pounds in the past couple weeks, serious decline in strength and libido is barely there.. I know, I know I'm in PCT some of these things should be expected!! Well... Last PCT I didn't lose a single pound, no strength loss, and no libido issues. This was with the standard nolva/clomid combo..

PCT started on 1/6 so I'm about 3.5 weeks in.. First 2 weeks was 120mg ED, last week and a half 90mg ED..

I'm concerned here because LH and FSH are at the lower end of the spectrum and being on a SERM shouldn't they be through the roof?? Wouldn't TT also be inflated from the SERM? I have nolva on hand and I'm trying to figure out what to do here and if my torem is bunk..

Thanks in advance for your input..

 

[HandyManny]

Where'd you get the torem from?

 

[Gunrunner]

It would be good for one of the Docs to review this. I think your HPTA just hasn't returned to normal all the way. LH & FSH are in the low/normal range. Keep at PCT and take it easy on the AIs. That low estro will kill sex drive.

I looked at my old labs during PCT and my LH and FSH always stayed low in the range. LH 3.1, FSH 1.7 at end of PCT.

What was your TT before cycle?

How much longer do you have planned for PCT?

I know Dr Scally said to test 30 days after PCT is completed to know if you have full recovery.

BTW, I have no experience with Torem.

 

[boxer15]

Myth is a fan of torem and I am using torem for pct. Didn't get bloods done but I haven't lost any gains yet. Did you get it from cem-meso?

 

[boxer15]

Now you got me thinking that I should add nolva to it

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Where'd you get the torem from?

A few guys know where I got it.. I'd rather not let that cat out of the bag until I know whats going on..

It would be good for one of the Docs to review this. I think your HPTA just hasn't returned to normal all the way. LH & FSH are in the low/normal range. Keep at PCT and take it easy on the AIs. That low estro will kill sex drive.

I looked at my old labs during PCT and my LH and FSH always stayed low in the range. LH 3.1, FSH 1.7 at end of PCT.

What was your TT before cycle?

How much longer do you have planned for PCT?

I know Dr Scally said to test 30 days after PCT is completed to know if you have full recovery.

BTW, I have no experience with Torem.

TT before cycle was a little over 600. Only PLANNED on going 4 weeks PCT, not sure now..

Thanks for looking that up Gunz, somewhat encouraging.. Although, I was just researching a bit and from bloods I've seen during PCT on other sites LH is through the roof which is what I'm under the impression SERMs are supposed to do.. Remember that guy that posted PCT labs a few months ago here Gunz? I can't find the post but his LH and FSH were both higher than the range..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Here's a link to the post I was talking about... https://thinksteroids.com/community/posts/946282

This guys LH is over the range..

 

[boxer15]

Guess your torem is Bunk

 

[Gunrunner]

Guess your torem is Bunk

Seriously?

Look at my LH and FSH levels. They were low/normal range. Does that mean my Nolva/Clomid was bunk? My recovery didn't really happen?

We all react differently to different compounds. Some will recover easily from one method and not another. For some it takes longer than it does for others.

 

[weekend]

torem is bunk!

60 mg torem and 12.5 mg clomid had my LH and FSH out of range high 4 weeks AFTER pct

you need to pretend you forgot to PCT and start all over. at least your aromasin seems legit.

 

[weekend]

^i strongly disagree with gunrunner here, LH and FSH should be sky high here even if testicles aren't producing much test.

this result is exactly what i would expect with an AI only PCT.

 

[Boosted]

Johnny any HCG during cycle or prior to PCT this time around?

I have been debating Torem myself after seeing some guys on here switch over to it. Hopefully everything works out for you. Keep us posted.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Johnny any HCG during cycle or prior to PCT this time around?



I have been debating Torem myself after seeing some guys on here switch over to it. Hopefully everything works out for you. Keep us posted.

No I've never used HCG..

That's kinda what I was thinking weekend.. Hopefully some more peeps will chime in.

 

[weekend]

damn bro you should've used hcg too lol

 

[Boosted]

No I've never used HCG..

That's kinda what I was thinking weekend.. Hopefully some more peeps will chime in.

I usually run it throughout my cycle @ 250iu 2x week up to a few days prior to PCT. Some run it after their last shot for a two week blast before PCT (not sure dosages). I am sure some more vets will chime in.

 

[TheGuy85]

I was going to give Torem a shot, but now I am reconsidering . Guess I will stay a whiny bitch on the Clomid. I would run Clomid + Nolva, as I retain strength gains better, but I have some bad sides with Nolvadex . It killed my appetite, had me nauseous, headaches, hot flashes, diarrhea. I hardly ate anything while I ran it, but I surprisingly kept my strength up, just felt horrible.

 

[Boosted]

I was going to give Torem a shot, but now I am reconsidering . Guess I will stay a whiny bitch on the Clomid. I would run Clomid + Nolva, as I retain strength gains better, but I have some bad sides with Nolvadex . It killed my appetite, had me nauseous, headaches, hot flashes, diarrhea. I hardly ate anything while I ran it, but I surprisingly kept my strength up, just felt horrible.

My wife said she would kill me if I get like a whinny bitch again from clomid. I may just cruise to the summer cycle lol.

 

[Candyskull]

We got our Torem from the same place around the same time. I'm going to switch over to another brand tomorrow because my tits hurt like a mo since I dropped the adex way down, and on 120mg of Torem, that shouldn't be. I'll keep you posted over the next couple days if that situation fixes itself because judging by taste alone, I know that the new brand is legit.

 

[TheGuy85]

Where did the suspicious Torem come from? I would like to know, so I don't end up buying it.

 

[brutus79]

I bumppity bump asking where torem came from please...