Undertow333
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Clomid makes me madder than a hornet! I have less anger issues on tren than I do clomid.
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LABS toward end of Torem PCT, help!!
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Clomid makes me madder than a hornet! I have less anger issues on tren than I do clomid.
Undertow333
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JB, you ran test and tren, then added npp, mast, and halo at the end right? I would imagine that you were REALLY suppressed by the end with tren and npp. I have no experience with Torem so I can't weigh in there but I do plan on running HCG 2x week through my next prop, tren, mast, var cycle. Also someone mentioned the high estro. I had that problem this last pct and had to drop the anti E in half. Good luck brother. Hope you get it figured out 'cause I know that shit sucks.
johnnyBALLZ
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JB, you ran test and tren, then added npp, mast, and halo at the end right? I would imagine that you were REALLY suppressed by the end with tren and npp. I have no experience with Torem so I can't weigh in there but I do plan on running HCG 2x week through my next prop, tren, mast, var cycle. Also someone mentioned the high estro. I had that problem this last pct and had to drop the anti E in half. Good luck brother. Hope you get it figured out 'cause I know that shit sucks.
Yea, I added a lot of shit in at the end that I got from the naps giveaway.. I shouldn't have, made great strength gains there but I was already done growing from that cycle.. I dropped aromasin after I got the results.
Hey jb- who do you use for labs again?
I use hcg the last 5 weeks of a cycle. It makes me break out real bad and I couldnt tolerate that all cycle. I have never done pct without, but from what I tead it is essential for that LH
johnnyBALLZ
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True test value over 1500 and get the female hormone panel?
Thanks btw... I know I read it somewhere and I forgot
Thanks btw... I know I read it somewhere and I forgot
beezil
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JB,
are you using pharm grade PCT gear??
or research chems??
are you using pharm grade PCT gear??
or research chems??
johnnyBALLZ
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I know this was from the other thread. But I wanted to give mine a little more time but I am gonna have to call it bunk or heavily underdosed. I have been taking 60mg ed for a little over a month now.
My reasoning:
I have a small bb sized "lump" under my right nipple. This is the second time it has flared up on me. The first time I just doubled my AI dose which crushed my e2 to nothing. Which is what I was trying to avoid this time. I got my E level within range and started ralox but it is still there.
There is a possibility that I just don't respond to it? Maybe?
But either way I have some nolva on the way now.
fit2beking
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Research..
JB if this is the same place you ordered before you may want to find another RC company. I am using torem now while on cycle and I am not having one issue at ll in fact it appears my puffy nips are shrinking. I am pleased with it. Now of course this is on cycle and not PCT. You know I don't pct so take that for what it is worth.
Candyskull
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Johnny-
Update. I hadn't had any adex in a few days before I dosed .5mg Thursday evening. Yesterday. Went with the new brand of Torem, no adex.
No titty pain, body feels better today.
I don't think the stuff we both have is bunk, but I think it's way under dosed, or it's suffered potency loss.
The new brand is the same stuff King has. I recommend you acquire some. He ships quick, his bottles are overfilled, and he adds NO FLAVORING, but the shit certainly seems G2G. I also used it for a week a couple weeks back to ensure it was in fact legit and it did its job. I didn't start having a problem until I switched back to the green Torem and dropped the adex.
Update. I hadn't had any adex in a few days before I dosed .5mg Thursday evening. Yesterday. Went with the new brand of Torem, no adex.
No titty pain, body feels better today.
I don't think the stuff we both have is bunk, but I think it's way under dosed, or it's suffered potency loss.
The new brand is the same stuff King has. I recommend you acquire some. He ships quick, his bottles are overfilled, and he adds NO FLAVORING, but the shit certainly seems G2G. I also used it for a week a couple weeks back to ensure it was in fact legit and it did its job. I didn't start having a problem until I switched back to the green Torem and dropped the adex.
I think I know what company you guys used now. I hope their Clomid is official, I will know. I been running the Adex and it seemed underdosed, honestly. I never should have stopped using irondragon, at least I know their Clomid is official. I jumped on board with the other research chem. site due to a sale.
johnnyBALLZ
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The Torem was from CEM as was the Ralox I had issues with previously.. After after a few emails they said they would refund the money for both products..
Unfortunately they did not seem concerned about the effectiveness of these two products citing there haven't been any other complaints.. I gave a link to this thread saying 3 others here had issues as well. Their response?? "These products are not for human consumption."
I do appreciate getting the ninety something dollars back but my gains are virtually gone as is the almost $1000 worth of gear for that 12 week cycle..
Unfortunately they did not seem concerned about the effectiveness of these two products citing there haven't been any other complaints.. I gave a link to this thread saying 3 others here had issues as well. Their response?? "These products are not for human consumption."
I do appreciate getting the ninety something dollars back but my gains are virtually gone as is the almost $1000 worth of gear for that 12 week cycle..
Candyskull
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Wait, I thought you had all that comped vet gear 
Sorry man, that's rough. I'm going to email CEM tomorrow. Since I made the switch I feel so much better. No Adex since last Thursday, no peck pain, libido improving. I just feel better all around.
It might have been an expensive lesson learned, but it's a good one. Hopefully it's one a few other guys can learn without taking the hit.
Sorry man, that's rough. I'm going to email CEM tomorrow. Since I made the switch I feel so much better. No Adex since last Thursday, no peck pain, libido improving. I just feel better all around.
It might have been an expensive lesson learned, but it's a good one. Hopefully it's one a few other guys can learn without taking the hit.
Sucks guys- "not for human consumption"
and on the board they sponsor. Eat a bag of dicks.
Cem must have hired pep as their pr rep / customer service specialist.
Wait, I thought you had all that comped vet gear
Sorry man, that's rough. I'm going to email CEM tomorrow. Since I made the switch I feel so much better. No Adex since last Thursday, no peck pain, libido improving. I just feel better all around.
It might have been an expensive lesson learned, but it's a good one. Hopefully it's one a few other guys can learn without taking the hit.
Im 3 weeks in with the CEM Torem and I had a feeling I needed to run clomid and nolva with it. The first week I did just the Torem and lost 5 pounds. The second week I decided to throw in Nolva and Clomid. I lost another 5 pounds until the other compounds started working.
Either its the Torem or the RC company, but I wasted my money and good gear... By the way, the nolva/clomid are from a different company.
Either its the Torem or the RC company, but I wasted my money and good gear... By the way, the nolva/clomid are from a different company.
Candyskull
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Lol. You posted on my public profile bro.
I don't give ANYTHING the G2G, sorry. I will say that NAPS stocks pharma grade, and that's a safer bet than research chemicals TYPICALLY, and it's also an avenue I plan to pursue in the future.
