Lack of morning woody?

[99atlantic]

Not looking for any reasons, but i'm just curious if it's normal for a teenager/person in their 20s to almost never have a morning woody? I remember back when I was 15, I would get them almost everday when waking up, but ever since i was 16ish, i'll get one maybe once every 2-3months, if that, and it's always been like that since i was 16-22. Any idea if that is normal?

I am seeing an endochronologist in a few weeks (yaaay canadian system...only a 4month wait since i originally booked it) because of my previous problems, plus my last blood test showed my testosterone was 'borderline normal' (yea, what's that mean, she refused to explain or give me the value, lol)

 

[ldslifter]

I would recommend a "stamp test" to determine if you are perhaps getting erections while you sleep, but are not aware of them. If you wake up in the morning and the stamp loop has broken...then you most likely are having nocturnal erections unbeknownst to you.

As far as your doctor goes...there is a reference range which doctors and labs use to measure one's results against. Generally speaking though, it is for the entire age spectrum of males....but age should be a considerable factor in determining if you are normal or not. More importantly in my opinion, normal is a relative thing...relative to you. Some people can have a measurement of 300 ng/dl and feel just fine....but others may require 900 ng/dl to feel normal. If you have a good doctor...he will test for all of the right things (see previous posts) and then listen to how you feel. If you have classis syptoms of hypogonadism e.g. low testosterone but are still in the reference range, hopefully he will work with you. One word of caution though...be sure it is something you want to live with..kind of like once you start on HRT...you can't go back. It is possible, but it is difficult and the results are mixed.

I hope this helps!

LDSlifter

 

[99atlantic]

well, i feel like shit all the time, have for the last 2yrs (read my sob story, hehe ..... https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/11485 ), lost muscle, strength, blah, so yea, it sucks.

i was studying how the labs do values here, and it's very odd. Everywhere I look test. measurements seem to be ng/dl or nmol/L....however here they use mmol/L.

They say that their range for 'normal' is 7 to 28 mmol/L....how the hell do you convert that into ng/dl, lol

(yes, mmol/L, not nmol/L)

 

[GDSGFT]

well, i feel like shit all the time, have for the last 2yrs (read my sob story, hehe ..... https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/11485 ), lost muscle, strength, blah, so yea, it sucks.

i was studying how the labs do values here, and it's very odd. Everywhere I look test. measurements seem to be ng/dl or nmol/L....however here they use mmol/L.

They say that their range for 'normal' is 7 to 28 mmol/L....how the hell do you convert that into ng/dl, lol

(yes, mmol/L, not nmol/L)

Hey dude, are you from AUS? The actual normal reference range is 11-34nmo1/l and the test should be taken in the morning as that is when your test levels are at their highest.

I also have no idea on the conversion, but like yourself, after my testicular cancer, I was in the somewhat low but normal range. several months later my testosterone kept dropping, leaving me with a reading of 8.3 nmo1/l in the mornings.

You're going the right way about it by seeing an endocrinologist. If he/she thinks there is a concern with your normal test levels, don't jump the gun and get straight onto HRT. It's always good to get second and third opinions when dealing with matters as serious as this. Hell, I'm on the shit now for the rest of my life, and i'd rather not be.

For example, my first doctor (local GP) told me my testosterone levels were fine and I had nothing to worry about. I told him I wasn't satisfied with his judgement and was then referred to an endocrinologist. It was then where I noticed my test levels were actually 5 nmo1/l's lower than what my original doctor had stated.

In many cases, your endocrinologist might give you 4 injections of either enanthate/sustanon spread over 2 months (1 per fortnight) They will then leave you off it and continue taking bloods to see if your levels will then stabilise. Sort of like jump starting a car.

Worst case scenario, you need HRT for the rest of your life, I reccommend you stay as far away from injectibles as possible. Sure, if you're going to make a few cycles out of your misfortune and feel the need to bulk up, by all means, go for it!

But personally speaking, I'd reccommend Androgel. Easier to take with steadier levels, IMO.

All the best, let us know how it pans out.

 

[ldslifter]

It is definitely a lifetime committment once you start on HRT. It is nice to see people think the same way I do. Some want to get on HRT just to get a legal scrip, but its really a stupid thing to do. I wish I didn't have to be on it...but I have no choice.

As far as injections go...I prefer them over androgel. I found the daily routine from androgel to be irritating as it took three of the packets to get my levels where they needed to be....and I'm out on feeling like a glazed donut. I also hated the fumes...first thing in the morning from the alcohol.

So I'm on injections and prefer them as I only have to deal with it every 5 days. The secret to injections is getting them spaced close enough so you have a stable blood level. Once every 2 week did not work for me, nor did every 10 or every 7 days. Currently I take the equivalent of 1cc per week...but I take 3/4 of a cc every 5 days and I have no ups and downs.

Anyways...hope it helps and good luck.

LDSlifter

 

[99atlantic]

thanks; the way i see, i'm pretty fucked either way i turn...you don't remain sick for 2yrs w/o having something very wrong with you....and at that point whatever the cure is it's goigmn to have its consequences....might as welll get some muscle out of it if possible, lol.

 

[GDSGFT]

thanks; the way i see, i'm pretty fucked either way i turn...you don't remain sick for 2yrs w/o having something very wrong with you....and at that point whatever the cure is it's goigmn to have its consequences....might as welll get some muscle out of it if possible, lol.

If you're going to need it for the rest of your life, go for it! Muscle up like it's going out of fashion.

 

[SWALE]

GDSGFT--Androgel will produce more stable serum T levels than injections, but proper dosing of the test cyp IM would help. It must be dosed weekly.

IMPO, there's not much point in debating which delivery system is better--Androgel or test cyp IM. I am thankful to have choices with which to tailor my TRT regimens for individual patients, according to their needs and lifestyles.

ldslifter--I would NEVER put a man on three packets of Androgel per day. Doing so will cause extremely high DHT and Estrogen levels. Just last night I replied to a guy who was under the "medical care" on an online so-called "HRT Clinic" that had him on 400mgs of test cyp cream per day! And they never once thought to check DHT or E levels, either before or afterwards. That blows my mind.

 

[99atlantic]

Soooooooooooooooooooooo is it pretty much a done deal that lack of morning woodies at those ages isn't normal?

 

[Massive690]

Soooooooooooooooooooooo is it pretty much a done deal that lack of morning woodies at those ages isn't normal?

you might just be jerking it too much. back when i used to rub one out like 5-6 times a day i never got morning wood. now i only masturbate on the internet like once a week and i wake up with a friggin raging boner every morning, a big ole vein stickin out and shit.... i cant get it to go down for like 20 mins, its crazy

 

[99atlantic]

you might just be jerking it too much. back when i used to rub one out like 5-6 times a day i never got morning wood. now i only masturbate on the internet like once a week and i wake up with a friggin raging boner every morning, a big ole vein stickin out and shit.... i cant get it to go down for like 20 mins, its crazy

5-6x/day! christ, even when i was 14/15ish i could only get it up like 2x/day.....now i 'rub one out' every 6 or 7days.

 

[SWALE]

Great thread.

 

[99atlantic]

Great thread.

haha, glad you could laugh at my expense

hehehe

on a side-note, i went to the endochronologist, did some blood work and stuff (still waiting on results), but what I found odd is when she asked if I had morning woodies or had trouble getting it up in the morning and i told her what i posted here, she just shrugged it off as being "normal" since I've rarely had any in the past.....i got my test free and total, and other stuff checked, so it's not really an issue of her ignoring me, but i found it odd that she would consider that normal? *shrug*

 

[TheSpectre]

If I sleep to long I do not get morning wood. When I get up early I have them every morning. Especially after short naps.

 

[kaorialfred]

Well I must be special?

At 2.5 cc the morning woody or the the on demand woodie is what I lack. I am certain that my mass remains the same too. with crazy cardio routine and diet.
So just be lucky that you get some kind of effect at all.
I hated the gel, it didn't absorb that well for me. Swale I also with my Dr. advice was using 3 tubes a day before I started to fell anything.


Can you body get burnt out on test and just reject it?

 

[VDC]

"Can you body get burnt out on test and just reject it?"

No,,,VDC

 

[kaorialfred]

Can your body get burnt out on test/
pardon the grammar.

Well that seemed to be the case with the gel. I was putting it on and then after a 3 month deal. Zip nadda thing was showing up in the blood results.
Hey thanks for the reply.

 

[SWALE]

What is really happening is that your body is reacting as it normally does to supraphysiological serum androgen levels. You experience tremendous increases in libido as serum androegn levels are accelerating, but once they attain their final above-normal range, then libdio--as well as your general health, begins to fall backward.

Again, TRT means keeping T levels within normal range, not higher.